The Maudfather Posted January 15, 2010 Share Posted January 15, 2010 Let me kick it off.... is there a God? Link to comment
WVhuskerXX Posted January 15, 2010 Share Posted January 15, 2010 I believe there is. I am very religious. But I will never throw my religion upon anyone. I respect other's view no matter what. But mine will never change. Link to comment
The Maudfather Posted January 15, 2010 Author Share Posted January 15, 2010 I believe there is. I am very religious. But I will never throw my religion upon anyone. I respect other's view no matter what. But mine will never change. How do we know that there is a God? Link to comment
Landlord Posted January 15, 2010 Share Posted January 15, 2010 You don't, that's the whole point. God can't provide proof of his existence, because that denies faith. Link to comment
WVhuskerXX Posted January 15, 2010 Share Posted January 15, 2010 How do we know that there is a God? To be honest, I know there is a God because of things that happen, have happened and will happen. There are too many great things in life for there not to be a God. Link to comment
WVhuskerXX Posted January 15, 2010 Share Posted January 15, 2010 You don't, that's the whole point. God can't provide proof of his existence, because that denies faith. Great point Landlord Link to comment
Army Husker Posted January 15, 2010 Share Posted January 15, 2010 You don't, that's the whole point. God can't provide proof of his existence, because that denies faith. Can't He? Or is it that He chooses not to because He is challenging our faith? Link to comment
Landlord Posted January 15, 2010 Share Posted January 15, 2010 That just sounds like semantics to me. Sure, he could reveal himself, but given that faith is an essential piece to a relationship with God, he can't. So we are both really saying the same thing. Link to comment
Husker_x Posted January 15, 2010 Share Posted January 15, 2010 The more pertinent question is, If God exists, why are we having this discussion? One might answer faith, but this is nothing but a begged question. One assumes there's a God and furthermore knows that he wants the founding principle of our relationship to be knowing, loving, and worshipping what we can't demonstrate exists. What we learn from this is that our God likes to play Hide and Seek. Why go to the trouble of having a relationship with your creation when you can stay home? More to the question of the thread, though, I believe that everyone on the planet, including myself, and whether they admit it or not, is an agnostic. No one knows if God exists, yet some claim to both ways. With a theist, however, there comes a second step. Not only do they know who he/she/it is, but they also know what he/she/it wants, and in some cases are intent on making sure you obey that will just as they––selectively––do. Link to comment
redout22 Posted January 16, 2010 Share Posted January 16, 2010 That just sounds like semantics to me. Sure, he could reveal himself, but given that faith is an essential piece to a relationship with God, he can't. So we are both really saying the same thing. He has revealed himself through Jesus. He has revealed himself through Moses, Noah, and many prophets. Link to comment
strigori Posted January 16, 2010 Share Posted January 16, 2010 I think there are simply too many holes in any religion for it to hold water. I do think there is more to things than what we can see, but the hypocrisies and contradictions present in any religion to make me believe. 1 Link to comment
WVhuskerXX Posted January 16, 2010 Share Posted January 16, 2010 He has revealed himself through Jesus. He has revealed himself through Moses, Noah, and many prophets. Link to comment
bennychico11 Posted January 16, 2010 Share Posted January 16, 2010 That just sounds like semantics to me. Sure, he could reveal himself, but given that faith is an essential piece to a relationship with God, he can't. So we are both really saying the same thing. He has revealed himself through Jesus. He has revealed himself through Moses, Noah, and many prophets. now you're complicating things. The original question was "is there a god." Not which god. Your statement assumes that the Christian god is the only true monotheistic entity. And I hope to god (pun intended) that the Christian god is not THE god. Otherwise I fear that we have a cruel and jealous god ruling over us. However, I "believe" that there is no mono-(or poly) theistic god(s). Rather, the idea of a god, or multiple gods, was created to ease the mind of man kind many years ago in order for them to understand life, death, and all of it in between. 1 Link to comment
redout22 Posted January 16, 2010 Share Posted January 16, 2010 That just sounds like semantics to me. Sure, he could reveal himself, but given that faith is an essential piece to a relationship with God, he can't. So we are both really saying the same thing. He has revealed himself through Jesus. He has revealed himself through Moses, Noah, and many prophets. now you're complicating things. The original question was "is there a god." Not which god. Your statement assumes that the Christian god is the only true monotheistic entity. And I hope to god (pun intended) that the Christian god is not THE god. Otherwise I fear that we have a cruel and jealous god ruling over us. However, I "believe" that there is no mono-(or poly) theistic god(s). Rather, the idea of a god, or multiple gods, was created to ease the mind of man kind many years ago in order for them to understand life, death, and all of it in between. I am not complicating things. Landlord said that he could reveal himself I just responded saying that God has. I would have responded in a different way if I had a different religion but I dont so I responded by what I know. Link to comment
huskerjack23 Posted January 16, 2010 Share Posted January 16, 2010 There is no god. The burden of proof is on the claimant. Extraordinary claims call for extraordinary evidence, evidence that just does not exist. 1 Link to comment
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