Creighton Duke

bump!

People are tiring of the race-baiting. The likes to dislike ratio on that video will prove this to be true.

Hmm..well, I wouldn't consider that series of quotes to appoint one as an "apologist" for an individual (especially the Orban piece). As I've stated before, I'm merely providing my thoughts on Russia's take on "Western aggression" and how that would have influenced their alleged hacking. That being said, I admit that I have contributed to this thread's derailing and it might be better to get back to DNC talk. I can start a world leader/politician apologist thread if there is any interest!

Aww knapp. You know better than that! Just look what I wrote a few posts up

Yeah? http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/vladimir-putin/11418959/Vladimir-Putin-receives-a-warm-welcome-from-Hungarian-PM-Viktor-Orban.html And for the record, I don't have enough first-hand experience in Russia to make any statement on my personal feelings about how the country is run so I'm personally indifferent on his "tactics". Pardon me if I'm not too impressed or jumping up and down in joy because a candidate in the US has endorsements from the likes of Putin and Orban. Why is that? Please tell me all that I need to know about Vladimir Putin and Orban Viktor.

So a world where 2 of the 3 (if not the top 2) world superpowers get along for the first time in ~70 years is a bad thing? I don't know, but I think that I prefer it to the kind of relationship that HC would cultivate. Russia does not have the US best interest in mind. Why do you think they would want him in office, it's not because they think he would be good for America.Russia is trying to prevent WW3. Putin has been warning for a couple of years now that he doesn't appreciate how close things are getting to his border, but people don't seem to be listening. He knows he has a better chance of preventing a war with Trump in power, so yes, Russia does not have US best interests in mind, but by doing what it can to advance this interest, the world will benefit. tldr: Things aren't always zero or negative sum. Are they? They are increasing sub ativity: http://www.cnn.com/2016/04/15/politics/mark-ferguson-naval-forces-europe-russian-submarines/ Multiple incident between US Military and Russian counter parts: http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/29/politics/us-aircraft-carrier-russian-plane-encounter/ http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/01/politics/russia-plane-navy-uss-ross/ http://www.wsj.com/articles/russian-warplanes-fly-close-to-u-s-navy-destroyer-polish-helicopter-1460549626 Harrasing US Diplomats in Europe in criminal ways: https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/global-opinions/russia-is-harassing-us-diplomats-all-over-europe/2016/06/26/968d1a5a-3bdf-11e6-84e8-1580c7db5275_story.html The plan encounters seem innocent enough. When it comes to the subs, I can only imagine that it has something to do increasing Missile Defense/shield systems moving further into Eastern Europe. Each side has its own perspectives and theories on aggression.

I disagree. These poll numbers do not include any information post-DNC leak. If anything, things will be a wash, but I think Trump will actually extend his lead. 538 even predicting a Trump victory at this point! http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/#now Yeah i saw that Nate Silver now has Trump in the lead. Hillary is likely to get a bounce herself but it could be tamed by the corruption in the DNC. How can anyone take Hillary and Obama seriously anymore ever when they claim the Gop tries to disenfranchise voters while the Dems do not.

I disagree. These poll numbers do not include any information post-DNC leak. If anything, things will be a wash, but I think Trump will actually extend his lead. 538 even predicting a Trump victory at this point! http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/#now

Yeah? http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/vladimir-putin/11418959/Vladimir-Putin-receives-a-warm-welcome-from-Hungarian-PM-Viktor-Orban.html And for the record, I don't have enough first-hand experience in Russia to make any statement on my personal feelings about how the country is run so I'm personally indifferent on his "tactics".

So a world where 2 of the 3 (if not the top 2) world superpowers get along for the first time in ~70 years is a bad thing? I don't know, but I think that I prefer it to the kind of relationship that HC would cultivate. Russia does not have the US best interest in mind. Why do you think they would want him in office, it's not because they think he would be good for America. Russia is trying to prevent WW3. Putin has been warning for a couple of years now that he doesn't appreciate how close things are getting to his border, but people don't seem to be listening. He knows he has a better chance of preventing a war with Trump in power, so yes, Russia does not have US best interests in mind, but by doing what it can to advance this interest, the world will benefit. tldr: Things aren't always zero or negative sum.

So a world where 2 of the 3 (if not the top 2) world superpowers get along for the first time in ~70 years is a bad thing? I don't know, but I think that I prefer it to the kind of relationship that HC would cultivate.

Awful, awful news. Rest in peace, young man.

^^^ That's a very good point that opens up a couple of new questions: 1. Should NATO allow non-secular member nations? 2. Should the U.S. reassess its involvement with NATO (we are seeing a lot of conversations related to this topic with Trump)?

It is a very unfortunate situation. Erdogan orchestrated these events in order to get ride of all dissenters as he attempts to revive traditional, non-secular principles into the Turkish governing and cultural landscapes. Interestingly, the U.S. is "friends" with regimes who undertake such measures and "supports" the existing regime/leaders, even though the U.S. did the exact opposite during the Arab Spring (supporting fundamentalist heavy coups, protests, etc.)

Do you even have a source for this? Or is it more of the same. I appreciate the short post this time though! Have fun! https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/

http://axiomstrategies.com/abc/ My gut feeling tells me to go off of this.

Why do these people ever apologize?

^^^ this conversation doesn't have to do with Brexit, not even loosely. Take it to another thread (Hitting the Links? Bump When Drunk?) Thanks!

^^^^ Thankfully people realize how big of a loser Sasse is, both within the State and in the national party. I'm not a GOP person, but this guy is an embarrassment to the party and to Nebraska.

sorry

Doesn't get better than this; we're done here. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fregObNcHC8 BTW: Posting videos is still too hard for me. This is Nirvana's cover of "The Man Who Sold the World"

This is the one time....ONE TIME....I will agree with Loms. Or at least the gif or something.