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I think the potential problem is that they’ll get bailed out thru some kind of taxpayer assistance, they won’t learn anything or gain any kind of useful perspective or insight, and they will continue to vote for the people that created the problem in the first place. All while decrying the evils of socialism. Reminds me of all the farmers that voted for Trump. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-farmers-aid/trumps-payments-to-farmers-hit-all-time-high-ahead-of-election-idUSKBN2741D4

This is where I’m at too. The NU Ministry of Propaganda tweets out a bunch of well edited hype videos and everyone starts taking the bait again. Rhule and Co have done some nice things thus far, but we’ve all been down this road too many times.

I’m guessing Gifford pulled up a bit or didn’t fully expect contact since Haarberg is in a green jersey.

It’s always interesting to hear the “20 years” trope from Neb fans, B1G fans, and CFB fans at large. And yeah it’s no secret that the past 20 years hasn’t yielded the kind of results Neb fans would hope for. But since I had the time this morning, I thought I’d take a deeper look. So here we go. Last 20 seasons. 2003-2022. Neb - 141-109 record for a .56 winning pct. - 6-6 in Bowls. Iowa - 164 - 89 record for a .65 winning pct. - 9-8 in Bowls, with a 2020 Bowl cancelled due to Covid. Safe to say this is Iowa’s best 20 year modern day stretch. 1 Co-B1G title with two B1G title game appearances. This yielded a 9% better winning percentage and 6 more bowl appearances/invites than Neb’s worst 20 year modern day stretch. Now, the last 6 years have obviously been the worst stretch of Nebraska football since the moon landing. So for the sake of conversation, and since it’s peak off season, let’s look at how these various B1G programs fared between 2003-2016. Neb - 118-64. - Bowls 6-6. No Major Bowls. - 7 top 25 finishes. 0 Top Ten. Iowa - 115-66. - Bowls 5-7. Major Bowls: 1 Orange win. 1 Rose loss. - 5 top 25 finishes, 4 in the top 10. Penn St - 114-63. - Bowls 5-5. Major Bowls: 1 Orange win. 2 Rose losses. - 6 Top 25 finishes, 4 in the top 10. (2007 finished 25 in Coaches, unranked in AP). Mich - 112-65. - Bowls 3-8. Major Bowls: 1 Sugar win. 3 Rose losses and 1 Orange loss. - 8 top 25 finishes (2012 they finished 24th in AP, unranked in Coaches). 3 in the top 10. (2011 they finished 9th in the coaches poll and 12th in the AP.) So from 2003-2016 Neb kept pace for wins and losses, bowl appearances and ranked finishes. The biggest areas they lagged were top 10 finishes and Major Bowls. However… I think it’s worth noting that between 2003 and 2010, Neb played in 3 Big 12 title games. The B1G did not play a title game in that span and had 4 years with co champions. Both Conferences played an 8 conference game schedule. Michigan received a Rose Bowl invite as a co champ and Penn St received Rose and Orange Bowl invites as co champs. If Neb did not have to play a Big 12 Championship Game, they’d have been co-champs in 2010. Which could have potentially landed them a Major Bowl. So in all, yes the last 20 years have not been great and the last 6 years has been the roughest. But for the other 14 of this infamous 20 year stretch, it seems we generally kept pace with other B1G schools.

Excluding 2022, this is how Scott’s offenses fared in the B1G https://www.espn.com/college-football/stats/team/_/season/2015/group/5 2018 2nd 2019 5th 2020 4th 2021 2nd All the other teams in those years that finished in the top 5 within the conference were bowl eligible… except Neb. Scott’s offenses were able rack up a lot of yards, but struggled in the red zone. Like others have said, attention to detail likely doomed him. One less drive killing false start here, one less turnover there. I’d also throw in a lack of focus on special teams as well. Having a reliable kicking game or getting better field position off a KO or Punt would’ve certainly helped. I don’t have the numbers in front of me, but man it seemed like every drive started at our own 15.

Dude folded like a lawn chair.

This seems pretty dystopian to me

Being able to shrug off children routinely getting slaughtered in a classroom over a bastardized interpretation of a 200+ year old law is the true moral decay of this country.

Have seen these two pop up consistently over the years, and both have always seemed kinda haunting to me. Michigan St - The final hours before the lives of multiple people are altered forever. Seeing someone at their absolute peak, only to know what inevitable tragedy happens just hours after this photo is snapped. TO and Ron Brown - Two coaches facing one way while Lawrence faces the other, symbolizing the path he took in life. TO with his hand on his back, guiding him. The cameraman a couple feet away representing the scrutiny both would face as they'll be mentioned together forever.

Riley took over a program that had 7 straight 9+ win seasons, 7 straight bowl appearances, and 3 conference championship game appearances. Do you truly in your heart believe that that paper tiger 9 win team in 2016 was the result of Riley's illustrious coaching skills? Or was it because he took over a solid program with a solid roster?

The Scott era went so bafflingly bad that it challenges what I thought I knew about sports, statistics, life, God etc. There’s an element of chance in any coaching hire. But never in my wildest dreams could I have imagined it going the way it did. The twists and turns, near misses, almosts, and would’ve could’ve should’ve’s. Just utterly insane. The quotes pretty much confirm what we all already knew. It’s still a bit jarring to hear it confirmed directly from the coaches involved though. The program was in a tailspin and they weren’t capable of fixing it. I don’t necessarily see that as “Still blaming Riley” but rather acknowledging that we had back to back disastrous hires.

I know, it’s truly an unpopular opinion. And for the record, I hope and pray for their demise like any Husker fan. The hate runs deep. I think that’s the main part of it, I’ve always enjoyed Boulder and Colorado in general.

If not for their fan base, I always thought CU would have been a fun “Second Team” to root for.

I would much rather they hang on to Barta for as long as possible.

I really try to not be a “But the refs!” guy too. But man it seemed they let Iowa be super aggressive defensively while calling everything they could on us. There were a handful of times Walker pleaded his case and I thought they were going to T him up for it or something. Ultimately it doesn’t matter. Got the W. Most competitive team in years. Hope they can make some noise in the B1G tournament.

I think I predicted 5 wins for this team. So happy to be wrong. Kudos to this team and Fred for battling.

I'd say it's more of his complete lack of any meaningful P5 experience than his age. Yup. It's just part of it. I'd say this is my biggest concern with multiple guys on the staff, not just Garrett. A solid chunk of these new guys have zero P5 experience. Some I can understand, like Wager. What he lacks in P5 experience, he'll surely makeup for in Texas connections and recruiting. But after buying in big time with Frost and Co where most had little to no P5 experience, I'd say anyone is justified in have a reasonable amount of skepticism with some of these hires. And don't get me wrong. I'm not rooting for or predicting failure. I want it to work and hope I'm wrong. Hopefully there's a cohesiveness here now that's obviously been missing for years.

Garrett not playing the position is hardly my biggest gripe. I feel like I was pretty clear about that.

Neb’s success under Rhule certainly won’t hinge on who the WR coach is or how old they are. However I think peoples main gripe (mine included) was that Rhule had the biggest assistant $$ pool a Neb coach has ever had… And for WR he hires the 24 year old son of a buddy of his. Does that really seem like a good faith effort? The absolute best possible option is this 24 year old, former Baylor walk-on, that didn’t play or coach the position and whose dad coached for Rhule? Really? I think it’s a fair criticism at this point. In 3 years, what is the more likely scenario… - “Boy, the WR room sure is in excellent shape. We really nailed it by taking a chance on that 24 year old.” Or - “Yeah… hiring a 24 year old with no coaching experience as a P5 position coach didn’t really pan out.” Maybe that first scenario happens. Who knows. Maybe he truly is the football wunderkind he’s been made out to be by some folks. I certainly hope so. I also recall Rhule being a little indignant when questioned about it on the Compton podcast. I enjoyed his overall candor, but his reaction to getting questioned about it struck me. If he’s bothered by folks making fair criticisms about a questionable hire… he ain’t seen nothing yet.

Edit: Disregard. Outdated info.

Agreed. Biggest staff $$ pool in the history of the program and multiple hires are genuinely baffling. I think there’s been public comments from Rhule and White regarding not strictly using the 3-3-5. So that’s encouraging. But guys like Raiola, Knighton and McGuire are admittedly concerning. The recruiting is nice, but …Callahan, Bo, Riley and Frost all recruited well here too. Is recruiting to Neb more difficult than some other places? Yes. No question. But multiple staffs have turned in top 25 classes, and all have consistently outrecruited our division. I’m not sold on this narrative that recruiting to Neb is some impossible, Herculean feat. Overall, still wait and see mode. Some things have been nice. Some are concerning. C.

So they’ve lost their OC to Rutgers, DL to Purdue, and their CB to Wisconsin. 3 lateral, in conference moves. Definitely seems like something is going on up there.