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UGA: 38 NU: 24 Rush: 165 Pass: 211

I'm glad somebody brought this back to the coaches. My perception is that Bo fails in regards to keeping the "Internet" at a distance. I always get the feeling when he gets snarky with some in the media, that he seems to be responding to the Internet posters/bloggers and not just the one asking the questions. I think he (and perhaps others associated with the program) take the Internet negativity too seriously/personally when for many of us, its simply a place to vent (misery loves company). There's Internet negativity that surrounds other successful programs. Do these other programs constantly harp on the media/Internet negativity like those in/surrounding our program seem to? Again, just my humble perception.

Fantastic decision, David! Welcome!

I do think there is less patience, but not necessarily more anger. As has been pointed out, the mediums for expressing the "anger" has changed. I always bitched and moaned when we lost, but the discussions/debates were merely among family and friends. Unless one wrote a letter to the coach/University, the bitching was kept at the distance of reporters. Now with the Internet, strangers, and the team/person I'd theoretically be bitching about, can anonymously see any thoughts I choose to share. I agree that this can make it tougher for said people/person to keep a postivite outlook, but at the same time, the team/person has to grow thicker skin and not take to heart what is anonymously posted. I get the impression that many of today's teams/coaches take the Internet/Media responses more personally than before.

http://www.azcentral.com/sports/preps/articles/20121204priest-willis-marcos-de-niza-recruiting-update.html# The article doesn't add anything new. Just thought it give us the opportunity to post comments in his local "paper".

And that's really the problem with the losses. Bo's W/L record is good, and not many coaches have consectutive 9-win season, etc. But each loss seems to almost be worth 2-3 losses. because they're so embarrassing. This is the Bo conundrum.

Actually, I'm midly surprised were behind two teams we beat that both have worse records than us (Michigan, Northwestern).

I think PJ Smith actually provided the reason for this mess. He said something to the fact that 'if one guy misses his assignment, the play is going for six'. If Pelini doesn't have the talent to run, basically a man-to-man, at every spot, then he should be adjusting his scheme to make sure players aren't on an island like that. This is no different than Michigan not being properly prepared when Robinson went down, or not having the guts to put in Gardner if he was their better option. Coaches, and Pelini is apparently no different, get stuck on their scheme even if they don't have the personnel to fully execute it.

Sadly youre correct. I just wish if they're going to decide to go to flag football or put lighted targets (think laser tag) on the players of where its legal to hit them, they would do it already, and make the rules clear so that the players, coaches, refs, and fans are all on the same page of what is a legal hit. I can't stand it when a flags are thrown, yet no one knows what anyone did wrong.

This has been my biggest pet peave of officiating this year. They seem clueless on how to consistently make these calls. Completely legal plays (per the way the rule is written) are being flagged, and WWE crap like Boreland pulled on Martinez is somehow legal. Plus there was a play in the 3rd qrtr when Martinez was running out of bounds and got hit helmet to helmet with no call. The refs need to call the game per the rules. If they don't like the rules, they need to change them and/or clarify them in the off season.

A buddy and I have been wondering about this most of the season. Do the coaches condone not wrapping up? Do the coaches try to re-train the tream how to tackle, but its not getting through? Do they not bench/discipline him because they have no faith in his back-up? Wish I could get a more specific answer from Pelini other than "lack of execution".

Knapp, the key word is "could". I think you'd be hard pressed to believe that Pelini needs better talent to make his scheme look competent against top competition. Embarrassing losses "can" affect recruiting. "Can" affect program support and perception. "Can" affect the bowl game performance. We won't know til the future, but I don't think its a leap to assume that a rousing win would've done much more for the entirety of the program than an embarrassing loss. Agreed on all, but I think the point I'm making is, in the immediate angst-filled aftermath of this loss, this isn't the best time to be deciding if this is program-changing or not. I'll buy that.

Who should "we" use as our base comparison? How about Devaney? I'll never get on board with an attitude that implies that losses like today should be deemed acceptable because the current coach isn't Tom Osborne. If I were a 'Bama fan, I'd probably consider Bryant our best coach, but that wouldn't mean I'd not hold Saban to maintaining that standard (not necessarily W/L record). There is a middle road between "this is unacceptable because it's not as good as Tom Osborne did" and "this is acceptable because it's okay that it's not as good as Tom Osborne did". Maxconvert is suggesting the former. I am not suggesting the latter. Fair enough. Thanks.

Knapp, the key word is "could". I think you'd be hard pressed to believe that Pelini needs better talent to make his scheme look competent against top competition. Embarrassing losses "can" affect recruiting. "Can" affect program support and perception. "Can" affect the bowl game performance. We won't know til the future, but I don't think its a leap to assume that a rousing win would've done much more for the entirety of the program than an embarrassing loss.

Who should "we" use as our base comparison? How about Devaney? I'll never get on board with an attitude that implies that losses like today should be deemed acceptable because the current coach isn't Tom Osborne. If I were a 'Bama fan, I'd probably consider Bryant our best coach, but that wouldn't mean I'd not hold Saban to maintaining that standard (not necessarily W/L record).

Disagree all you want. In the aftermath of that loss, people wanted Osborne fired, they were down on the program, and this state was in a funk for a year. People will forget about this loss soon enough. It's just another of many for Pelini. But that 1983 loss stuck with people for a long time. It was different. Knapp, normally you and I are on the same page, but I gotta agree with Hercules. That wasn't a "program changing" loss. Everyone still knew that NU was a quality, top-10 type program after that loss. That game definitely helped Miami's program, which probably led to NU losing some recruits to Miami. This loss is another indication that perhaps Pelini doesn't really know how to properly prepare or coach up a team when on the "big stage". This game 'could' be a killer in recruiting, thus retarding the progress so far under Pelini. That's why I'd define today as a worse loss than that one. But like Hercules typed, the '83 game was more heartbreaking. '83 didn't cause most to question the direction of the program, these 63/70 point embarrassments do.

Ahh, CFN. The epitome of butthurt this season. Keep in mind that this is only Fiutak's prediction. Heres the CFN staff picks list (against the -3 spread): Fiu Rich Matt Russ Phil Terry Clucko PICK UW NE NE NE UW UW NE NE http://cfn.scout.com/2/557925.html

OU would never go for it. MidGame Bob doesn't want any more obstacles in the way of his hunt for another national 10th place finish. Move Mich to same div as OSU and Wisky to our division. Then we don't have worry about the teams playing each other a week later in the CC game. Don't want any part of that. Move Michigan to same division as OSU and PSU, and I guarantee our division becomes much like the Big12 North. Most of the talent will reside in the UM, OSU, PSU (after sanctions) triumverant. We'd be in the "forgotten" West division. You don't think Wisc and NU can draw enought talent? Wisc, NU, MSU can be 3 pretty talented programs. To answer your question, no. Yes, we recruit nationally, but most of the talent base within the B1G region reside in Mich, Ohio, Penn, and soon to be NJ. We'd mostly only get a shot at the the talent that the 3 "power" programs leave out (since they'd all play each other every year)....And we ARE one of the "power" programs. Wisc and MSU are not. I'd like the idea of swaping MSU for Wisc, but then Mich would have their two rivals in the other division. B1G wouldn't do that to Mich.

OU would never go for it. MidGame Bob doesn't want any more obstacles in the way of his hunt for another national 10th place finish. Move Mich to same div as OSU and Wisky to our division. Then we don't have worry about the teams playing each other a week later in the CC game. Don't want any part of that. Move Michigan to same division as OSU and PSU, and I guarantee our division becomes much like the Big12 North. Most of the talent will reside in the UM, OSU, PSU (after sanctions) triumverant. We'd be in the "forgotten" West division.

Well, I think you ultimately have to respect those sitting behind you; it doesn't matter if your in Lincoln or away site. I stand all game when I have the chance, when I have the agreement of those behind me (they wouldn't put seats or benches if there wasn't an expectation that most would be sitting). During the 2010 Mizzou game in Lincoln, I sat most of the game because those behind me (and in front) were sitting. During this season's away games I attended, I was able to stand all game due to my location (UCLA) and essentially getting the permission of those behind me (Northwestern). I think you always need to be gracious, especially in others' stadiums. They paid for their tickets too.

http://www.huskerboard.com/index.php?/topic/62747-stein-and-jackson-out/

NU - 29 UW - 24 Pass: 298 Rush: 167

If Rex is the guy, then so be it. I don't understand why the staff keeps running the same 3 fumblers out week after week (Abdullah, Marlowe, Turner). Just get someone to catch the ball. A lost fumble is much more disadvantageous than a good return is advantageous.

Not gonna predict a CCG loss, but these injuries could be an outcome changer.

NU - 41 IU - 17 Rush: 211 Pass: 253