Guy Chamberlin

That was a CNN exclusive, right? So Drew Holden is using CNN reporting to bolster his argument? Interesting. Of course the news media reported all kinds of skepticism regarding China's response and culpability from the very beginning, and this merely confirms they were right. You may be mistaking the "praise and defense" for the fact that China's incredibly strict lockdown actually was successful, and the same news media accurately reported that those same measures wouldn't go over well in America. Don't know where you get the idea that liberals trust China, a country without a free press. As far as being apologists, I think at some stage around March when the coronavirus was going global, some folks thought calling it "the China Virus" or "The Kung Flu" had a xenophobic edge that didn't really help the cause moving forward.

Decision making also means making quick decisions whether to run, pass, or scramble, how long to wait for the primary receiver to get separation, and when to kill a play that isn't working rather than force a play and risk a turnover. I get what you're saying about impatient fans, but as mentioned Scott Frost and Adrian Martinez himself acknowledged that Adrian lost some of his confidence last year, and it appeared to be bleeding into his Junior season. If you want to look at it critically, Frost essentially platooned both quarterbacks to start the season. Both were good runners -- but McCaffrey was a little better. Both were inconsistent passers, but Adrian was a little more consistent. In Frost's tempo offense, McCaffrey was a little quicker getting the team to the line and executing the bread & butter plays --- that's from Frost himself, not armchair Husker fans Given the chance to start against Penn State, McCaffrey played well enough to win the game, a performance pretty similar to a Martinez performance. Both QBs often missed seeing wide open receivers, and neither did a good job of getting the WRs involved. McCaffrey then had a meltdown performance against Illinois -- Martinez has had those, too --- at which point Frost turned to back to his Junior QB over his Freshman QB. Martinez responded with a good statistical game against Iowa, but a costly turnover. Then followed it up with a highly efficient game against a pretty bad Purdue team. But his confidence is back and that could make a big difference going forward. Not sure why you're quick to dismiss the mental game, or simply throw the receivers under the bus. . Except for the predictable one series package Frost gave McCaffrey against Purdue, McCaffrey has run the same offense as Martinez. The QB draw is a designed play for both QBs, but McCaffrey runs it slightly better, so he runs it more often. Luke has only 22 fewer pass attempts than Martinez. That's not a wildcat. The difference between Martinez and McCaffrey isn't night and day. It's more dawn and day. As mentioned previously, we can congratulate Adrian without s#!tting on Luke quite so much.

All we have is the eyeball test on a team without a lot of offensive weapons, but I got no problem putting Wan'dale up there with the greats at the position. He will probably never match the stats or accolades, but that doesn't mean he's not a baller.

Well Scott Frost's offense is based on short passes, and Adrian's average of 7.2 yards per attempt vs Luke's average of 6.3 isn't that significant, especially in the sample size. Both QBs have a sweet spot of 15 to 20 yards on crossing patterns and quick sideline outs, both have made great mid-distance throws on the run. Neither does well on the over-the-should deep routes. At the moment our Junior quarterback seems to have better consistency and growing confidence over the Freshman quarterback who failed to match some very high expectations.

I think even Frost and Martinez have admitted that Adrian regressed in his decision-making last season, as was witnessed in many plays that had nothing to do with injuries or supporting casts. Adrian's supporting cast was probably better last year, for that matter. Unfair as it my seem, Luke was running the same offense slightly better when given the chance. So this isn't really about placing blame, it's giving credit to Adrian for stepping up his game and earning back his spot. That's what leaders do. When Devine Ozigbo had a breakout senior season, people were saying he was finally being recognized for his talent. But it was Ozibgo who saw his career going nowhere and spent the off-season losing weight, gaining strength, and totally refocusing his efforts on a team where the new coach had him slotted as the fourth string running back. Sometimes it really is the individual lighting their own fire.

I can't find the Running Backs Room thread so I'll just start this here. In my 50+ years of Husker fandom, I don't remember a single season without a featured running back and a young back-up or two who you looked forward to seeing more of the next season. Shortened season and injuries don't entirely explain not having a single RB averaging more than 38 yards a game. There's not even a Wyatt Mazour in the mix. It's just odd.

Well Luke isn't THAT bad of a passer. He's at a 65% completion clip and he's made some laser accurate throws and some great improvisational throws. His interception rate is pretty awful, but one terrible game in a short sample size can do that. He's not the only Nebraska QB to miss seeing wide open receivers deep while opting for the short primary receiver. No need to throw the freshman's career under the bus because Adrian regained some confidence and earned his spot back.

I don't know how anyone can talk about justice, or due process, or the curtailing of free speech until HuskerBoard leadership fixes the Quote function.

I liked the brief flashes of Luke McCaffrey last season, and when it looked like Martinez was continuing his regression this season I was all in for starting the McCaffrey era. Freshman sensation Adrian Martinez just wasn't the same guy. So yeah. I was wrong. Or maybe not completely. Because Adrian appears to have dug down, fought for the job and figured out how to play better. Can''t say for sure if he would have done that without Luke threatening his entire football career. I also think Frost was developing a run-heavy package for Luke that was pretty easy for other teams to figure out. Frost may have come up with a better game-plan for Adrian. Now will we jump off the Martinez bandwagon that first crappy game he has and start getting all Smothers-happy? Of course we will.

Archy: one could answer the question by saying they believe our country has made changes needed to give blacks equal rights with whites. That doesn’t make them a racist. It means they believe our country gives equal rights to all now. Sure. Maybe the biggest factor in the resurgence of race in the public debate are the number of Americans who believe America already fixed the race problem. They are wrong. That's does't necessarily make them racist, but if they continue to hold onto that belief despite considerable evidence to the contrary, they are indeed racists. btw...you have phrased this question through the lens of "equal rights." So if you go by the book, you can point to the page that says equal rights. But that's not how it works on the streets, in the courts, or waiting for a table at Denny's, and that's the point.

I learned how forgiving I am. Nothing is solved, exactly, but I liked seeing how happy the players were.

It turns out that racism is complicated. Who knew? Here's an interesting take: police officers are slightly less racist than the average American, who is more racist than he/she wants to believe. https://spsp.org/news-center/blog/pelham-police-officers-racist

People inherently believe things were better in their younger days. Most people are surprised to find out the crime rate has declined in most categories. They also look back fondly on a bygone time when folks could leave their doors unlocked, and children could walk to school and play in parks unafraid, but in fact there's been a sharp decrease in violent crime and property crime since the 1990s, and a 2015 report showed it was the safest time to be a child in American history. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/04/14/theres-never-been-a-safer-time-to-be-a-kid-in-america/ I read an interesting article a few years back that traced the phenomenon to putting the faces of missing children on milk cartons — one of the first things people saw every morning. Although well-intentioned, it started an entire industry of selling exaggerated fear to parents.

Nebraska has struggled in the Big 10, but one of the bright spots has been how often we've beaten better Michigan State teams. So yes, I'd probably take Michigan State over Rutgers if there's a December make-up game.

You forgot to mention how well the team played for Barney Cotton against USC in the 2014 Holiday Bowl.

I think you over-estimate my seriousness. There's not much to learn from these cherry-picked comparisons. Although now that you mention it --- Illinois and Nebraska both sucked balls in 2017. And they still suck balls in 2020. But Illinois was clearly the better team this year. There aren't any good excuses. Losing to Iowa by only 6 points doesn't really change things. Beating Purdue and Minnesota does.

I got nothing going on this morning. You didn't answer the question.

Riley's 2017 team crushed Illinois 28 -6, and Scott Frost's 2020 team lost to the same team in a blowout! Ipso facto.....let's close this thread.

I think there's room for both weight rooms and ice cream in football. It's a game. They're still kids. They don't look like they're having fun right now. So what would you have said if MIke Riley had the players making snow angels before practice?

We couldn't beat Pac-12 bottom dweller Colorado two years running. The conference also has USC, Oregon, Stanford, Arizona, Arizona State, Washington, Washington State and Utah, and I can't imagine we'd be favored in any of those games. Maybe we'd be a push against Arizona State, Cal or UCLA this year. I think Oregon State could take us. In 2019 the Big 10 was 1—5 vs. the Pac 12. Pac 12 wins the head to head battle every year. I think we take a little too much comfort that the Big 10 is a tougher conference, or plays a different brand of football that vexes newbie coaches.

As I recall you were chided for providing the headline and pic, but not the article itself. So that was kinda meme like. Reading the article it sounds like Hogan made the South Korean deal first, and only then was he approached with a better domestic deal. Unclear the consequences or risks if Hogan had rescinded the purchase. He may well have been playing politics and made a bad deal. He may also have made a rushed deal, because no one was coordinating a national effort. Hogan might be an a$$h@!e ginning things up for a Presidential run. I don't know the guy. So fair enough. What do you think the story reveals in a larger sense? It's almost like you're saying the Trump administration's response to COVID wasn't as bad as the lamestream media makes it.

in 2015, the year Nebraska fired Bo Pelini, there was only one football coach who was considered a sure thing. Jim Harbaugh. And Harbaugh was only willing to leave the NFL for his alma matter and millions of dollars. Sure enough, Harbaugh took Brady Hoke's 5-7 team and turned them around immediately to a 10-3 record and perhaps the best defense in the country. In 2020, Harbaugh faces an angrier fanbase than Scott Frost does at Nebraska. I'd be surprised if he's at Michigan next season. So what's my point? I'm not sure. Maybe just that coaches can turn losing programs around immediately, and our fanbase isn't more or less demanding than our peer programs.

Wait. I thought the ball was in your court?

Well this is just one of the not funny ones, Archy. I also found the one about Illinois strange. The media hasn't ignored the surge in Illinois and other midwestern states this fall. Florida was news when it was leading the summer surge with Texas and Arizona. New York, New Jersey, Louisiana, and Illinois got most of the press in the first surge. It's almost like when people yell "Chicago!" when they want to ignore a racial incident.

I believe the most unifying sentiment in December 2017 was that if Scott Frost can't turn this program around, nobody can. So yeah, this is a low point for both Frost and the program. Solutions are a little harder to agree on.