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Well, you are beating a dead horse. Grixby is not the best talent in the country!!!

This is great news that Bowman is coming back!!!!!!

Yes and I will continue to beat until the horse is really dead. It is great to have Bowman back…wait where did I read that? Oh yeah IT WAS IN MY POST! The “best talent in the country” I was referring to is the front seven (read the post before you reply to it). And I stand by what I said before, Coz has no idea what to do with talent.

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Didn't see this posted anywhere, great news for next year. I think with Bowman returning, some good recruits and another year of maturation from Jones we might be alright in the secondary.

 

http://www.journalstar.com/blog/huskers.php

I hate to beat a dead horse, but you are assuming that Coz will know what to do with all that talent. When was the last time one of Coz’s defenses was good? His Wisconsin teams were a joke, and I must admit that I hoped that was only because he didn’t get the talent up there that he would have in Lincoln…WRONG!!!

 

 

Where are you getting your information from? His Wisconsin teams finished in the top 25 nearly every year, including a #4 finish in '99. Wisconsin also won back to back Big Ten Championships (98-99) and the Rose Bowl both of those years. In those years the Badgers went to nine bowl games and were 7-2 in those contests. In 1998 Wisconsin posted 11 wins and were top 10 nationally in all four major defensive categories. How about you look things up before you post mindless comments. Oh, and if you havn't noticed, there are two teams I root for passionately; Nebraska and Wisconsin.

 

GBR!! (Which works for both my teams)

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Didn't see this posted anywhere, great news for next year. I think with Bowman returning, some good recruits and another year of maturation from Jones we might be alright in the secondary.

 

http://www.journalstar.com/blog/huskers.php

I hate to beat a dead horse, but you are assuming that Coz will know what to do with all that talent. When was the last time one of Coz’s defenses was good? His Wisconsin teams were a joke, and I must admit that I hoped that was only because he didn’t get the talent up there that he would have in Lincoln…WRONG!!!

 

 

Where are you getting your information from? His Wisconsin teams finished in the top 25 nearly every year, including a #4 finish in '99. Wisconsin also won back to back Big Ten Championships (98-99) and the Rose Bowl both of those years. In those years the Badgers went to nine bowl games and were 7-2 in those contests. In 1998 Wisconsin posted 11 wins and were top 10 nationally in all four major defensive categories. How about you look things up before you post mindless comments. Oh, and if you havn't noticed, there are two teams I root for passionately; Nebraska and Wisconsin.

 

GBR!! (Which works for both my teams)

Well the problem here is obvious. I have gotten used to expecting excellence, and you on the other hand, being a part-time Wisconsin fan, have learned to expect mediocrity. I admit to not being a stat geek, so I was just going by what I remembered. But since you wanted to bring up Wisconsin’s success (with only passing reference to Coz’s defense by-the-way) I had to look it up to see if my memory had failed me. But alas, I was correct. Coz had a good year in `98, that is correct. But in his last five seasons at Wisconsin they gave up an average of 144 yards per game on the ground and 213 per game in the air. That is an average of 357 yards per game given up by Coz’s D during his last five years. Also, they gave up an average of 21 points per game.

 

Now by contrast, lets look at the last time we had a REAL defensive coordinator at Nebraska. In McBride’s last five years the Huskers gave up an average of 85 yards per game rushing, 180 yards per game passing (261 per game total), and only 14 points per game. During that time Nebraska only once gave up more than 200 yards per game in passing (217 ypg in `95 the season when we blew everybody out and they had to play catch-up against our second string in the second half of every game). Only once did we give up over 100 yards per game rushing (116 ypg in `98). In contrast, Coz’s last five seasons at Wisconsin they only gave up under 200 yards per game passing once. Also during that five year span they never surrendered an average of under 100 yards rushing, and they only gave up under 20 points per game scoring once in `99. By the way McBride’s worst scoring D in his last five seasons was in `97 when the Blackshirts gave up a mere 16 points per game. The other seasons in Charlie’s last half decade were 14 ppg twice and 13 ppg twice.

 

The point here is that my memory of Cosgrove’s years at Wisconsin do not make me very optimistic about the future of our defense, and from what I can tell by the numbers, my memory was pretty good. Also, I did not look up Bohl and Pelini’s numbers, but that’s because they were short timers and not that good anyway. I do not want to be mediocre. I want to be the Blackshirts that I have gotten used to. The team that doesn’t adopt the “bend but don’t break” mentality. Rather, we used to never bend, never break, just beat the crap outta the other team. Just because Coz had a good year once almost ten years ago in Wisconsin, doesn’t mean he is a good coordinator. And the fact that he is not a good coordinator was my point in the first place.

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Didn't see this posted anywhere, great news for next year. I think with Bowman returning, some good recruits and another year of maturation from Jones we might be alright in the secondary.

 

http://www.journalstar.com/blog/huskers.php

I hate to beat a dead horse, but you are assuming that Coz will know what to do with all that talent. When was the last time one of Coz’s defenses was good? His Wisconsin teams were a joke, and I must admit that I hoped that was only because he didn’t get the talent up there that he would have in Lincoln…WRONG!!!

 

 

Where are you getting your information from? His Wisconsin teams finished in the top 25 nearly every year, including a #4 finish in '99. Wisconsin also won back to back Big Ten Championships (98-99) and the Rose Bowl both of those years. In those years the Badgers went to nine bowl games and were 7-2 in those contests. In 1998 Wisconsin posted 11 wins and were top 10 nationally in all four major defensive categories. How about you look things up before you post mindless comments. Oh, and if you havn't noticed, there are two teams I root for passionately; Nebraska and Wisconsin.

 

GBR!! (Which works for both my teams)

Well the problem here is obvious. I have gotten used to expecting excellence, and you on the other hand, being a part-time Wisconsin fan, have learned to expect mediocrity. I admit to not being a stat geek, so I was just going by what I remembered. But since you wanted to bring up Wisconsin’s success (with only passing reference to Coz’s defense by-the-way) I had to look it up to see if my memory had failed me. But alas, I was correct. Coz had a good year in `98, that is correct. But in his last five seasons at Wisconsin they gave up an average of 144 yards per game on the ground and 213 per game in the air. That is an average of 357 yards per game given up by Coz’s D during his last five years. Also, they gave up an average of 21 points per game.

 

Now by contrast, lets look at the last time we had a REAL defensive coordinator at Nebraska. In McBride’s last five years the Huskers gave up an average of 85 yards per game rushing, 180 yards per game passing (261 per game total), and only 14 points per game. During that time Nebraska only once gave up more than 200 yards per game in passing (217 ypg in `95 the season when we blew everybody out and they had to play catch-up against our second string in the second half of every game). Only once did we give up over 100 yards per game rushing (116 ypg in `98). In contrast, Coz’s last five seasons at Wisconsin they only gave up under 200 yards per game passing once. Also during that five year span they never surrendered an average of under 100 yards rushing, and they only gave up under 20 points per game scoring once in `99. By the way McBride’s worst scoring D in his last five seasons was in `97 when the Blackshirts gave up a mere 16 points per game. The other seasons in Charlie’s last half decade were 14 ppg twice and 13 ppg twice.

 

The point here is that my memory of Cosgrove’s years at Wisconsin do not make me very optimistic about the future of our defense, and from what I can tell by the numbers, my memory was pretty good. Also, I did not look up Bohl and Pelini’s numbers, but that’s because they were short timers and not that good anyway. I do not want to be mediocre. I want to be the Blackshirts that I have gotten used to. The team that doesn’t adopt the “bend but don’t break” mentality. Rather, we used to never bend, never break, just beat the crap outta the other team. Just because Coz had a good year once almost ten years ago in Wisconsin, doesn’t mean he is a good coordinator. And the fact that he is not a good coordinator was my point in the first place.

 

I think Mcbride was a great defensive coordinator; but you can't deny the fact that he had superior players working for him as well. The last couple of years our recruiting has been better but we're still not getting the type of players we consistently got during Mcbride's reign. A coach can only do so much, there is no scheme that will make a corner like Grixby a quality contributer; but go ahead and blame the coach.

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You play the hand your dealt. I think the recruiting we are seeing this year on some of the top DB's tells us that the coaches know one of the biggest problems is at DB. It took Charlie M. some time to get his defense going also, and it turned out ok. Give Coz some time, if he didn't think he could get this defense playing like the Black Shirts we all are used to, I think he would have taken that NFL job.

 

GBR!!! :bonez

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Didn't see this posted anywhere, great news for next year. I think with Bowman returning, some good recruits and another year of maturation from Jones we might be alright in the secondary.

 

http://www.journalstar.com/blog/huskers.php

I hate to beat a dead horse, but you are assuming that Coz will know what to do with all that talent. When was the last time one of Coz’s defenses was good? His Wisconsin teams were a joke, and I must admit that I hoped that was only because he didn’t get the talent up there that he would have in Lincoln…WRONG!!!

 

 

Where are you getting your information from? His Wisconsin teams finished in the top 25 nearly every year, including a #4 finish in '99. Wisconsin also won back to back Big Ten Championships (98-99) and the Rose Bowl both of those years. In those years the Badgers went to nine bowl games and were 7-2 in those contests. In 1998 Wisconsin posted 11 wins and were top 10 nationally in all four major defensive categories. How about you look things up before you post mindless comments. Oh, and if you havn't noticed, there are two teams I root for passionately; Nebraska and Wisconsin.

 

GBR!! (Which works for both my teams)

Well the problem here is obvious. I have gotten used to expecting excellence, and you on the other hand, being a part-time Wisconsin fan, have learned to expect mediocrity. I admit to not being a stat geek, so I was just going by what I remembered. But since you wanted to bring up Wisconsin’s success (with only passing reference to Coz’s defense by-the-way) I had to look it up to see if my memory had failed me. But alas, I was correct. Coz had a good year in `98, that is correct. But in his last five seasons at Wisconsin they gave up an average of 144 yards per game on the ground and 213 per game in the air. That is an average of 357 yards per game given up by Coz’s D during his last five years. Also, they gave up an average of 21 points per game.

 

Now by contrast, lets look at the last time we had a REAL defensive coordinator at Nebraska. In McBride’s last five years the Huskers gave up an average of 85 yards per game rushing, 180 yards per game passing (261 per game total), and only 14 points per game. During that time Nebraska only once gave up more than 200 yards per game in passing (217 ypg in `95 the season when we blew everybody out and they had to play catch-up against our second string in the second half of every game). Only once did we give up over 100 yards per game rushing (116 ypg in `98). In contrast, Coz’s last five seasons at Wisconsin they only gave up under 200 yards per game passing once. Also during that five year span they never surrendered an average of under 100 yards rushing, and they only gave up under 20 points per game scoring once in `99. By the way McBride’s worst scoring D in his last five seasons was in `97 when the Blackshirts gave up a mere 16 points per game. The other seasons in Charlie’s last half decade were 14 ppg twice and 13 ppg twice.

 

The point here is that my memory of Cosgrove’s years at Wisconsin do not make me very optimistic about the future of our defense, and from what I can tell by the numbers, my memory was pretty good. Also, I did not look up Bohl and Pelini’s numbers, but that’s because they were short timers and not that good anyway. I do not want to be mediocre. I want to be the Blackshirts that I have gotten used to. The team that doesn’t adopt the “bend but don’t break” mentality. Rather, we used to never bend, never break, just beat the crap outta the other team. Just because Coz had a good year once almost ten years ago in Wisconsin, doesn’t mean he is a good coordinator. And the fact that he is not a good coordinator was my point in the first place.

 

 

I understand where your coming from, but NU only had excellent defenses a hand full of years. Yes the championship years and a few others. NU lost 2-3 games a year routinely. In my mind '99 was the last great one. On top of that 10-20 years ago, you only had 2-3 good teams on your schedule a year. It's quite obvious when Wake, Rutgers, Boise ST are making the top 25 and winning conference championships there's this thing called parity building. More teams are better now, hence domination of your schedule becomes much more difficult.

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The point here is that my memory of Cosgrove’s years at Wisconsin do not make me very optimistic about the future of our defense, and from what I can tell by the numbers, my memory was pretty good. Also, I did not look up Bohl and Pelini’s numbers, but that’s because they were short timers and not that good anyway. I do not want to be mediocre. I want to be the Blackshirts that I have gotten used to. The team that doesn’t adopt the “bend but don’t break” mentality. Rather, we used to never bend, never break, just beat the crap outta the other team. Just because Coz had a good year once almost ten years ago in Wisconsin, doesn’t mean he is a good coordinator. And the fact that he is not a good coordinator was my point in the first place.

 

 

What made McBride a good DC?

 

Wistrom, Peter(s), Tomich, Farley, Veland, Minter, Williams , Booker. Yeah, NU hit the defensive recruiting trail hard, and yes McBride made some changes to his system from what he was running in the 80's.

 

At Wisconsin the D was getting the left overs from the offense, that was Alverez's main concern was getting some O players, understandbly being were they have to recruit against.

 

I think that you might see a little more out to Coz's D when NU can field a complete D, yes they have a strong front 4, but I don't think the LB's are as great as many would like to think, not saying they are slouches by any means, combine that with a secondary that was pieced together from nothing and you get results like this season. And actually they didn't do to poorly considering.

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We gave up, considering the fumble at the two yard line, 14 true points to a team that has only legitmately lost one game all year. We only have up 21 to a team that hasnt scored under twenty in like fifty years or something rediculus like that. I thought our offense let us down a heck of alot more than our defense did in the big games this year. You expect to win when you only let USC, Texas, and Oklahoma score in the low twenties, at least you better with the number nine offense in the country.

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We gave up, considering the fumble at the two yard line, 14 true points to a team that has only legitmately lost one game all year. We only have up 21 to a team that hasnt scored under twenty in like fifty years or something rediculus like that. I thought our offense let us down a heck of alot more than our defense did in the big games this year. You expect to win when you only let USC, Texas, and Oklahoma score in the low twenties, at least you better with the number nine offense in the country.

USC only scored 7 against UCLA. What was differant about UCLA's gameplan? Well, they blitzed and kept presure on USC. They didn't play scared. They didn't cover wide receivers with linebackers. They used nickel packages. Oh, and by the way, living out here I can tell you...UCLA gets none of the talent. They get all of the leftovers. Their defense was just coached better. If we would have had their gameplan we would have won that game because our offense score more than 7. There is a serious problem on the defensive side of the ball and until it is fixed we are screwed. Coz has to go!

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