Glenn stands out at linebacker

[zoogs]

Anyone with common sense knows

 

that speed, strength, quickness, work ethic, and being smart are not compatible with being a good football player

 

 

Right.

[thrilla04]

zoogies Today, 05:31 PM Post #46

 

Anyone with common sense knows

 

 

QUOTE

 

that speed, strength, quickness, work ethic, and being smart are not compatible with being a good football player

 

 

 

 

Right.

 

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haha my bad... corrected

[HUSKER 37]

Why do people make excuses against Glenn?? "he knows the offense" "our LB core must not be strong".....what if Cody is just a stud at LB, just never played it before???

 

Give him some credit, making a risky move and happens to have a little success, that looks to have surprised a lot of people. I'd like to see the people on this board go play D1 running back for 3 years then make a move to D and after 2 weeks, earn a starting spot. (i know thats not "offical" though).

 

Go get em Cody and wreak HAVOC wherever YOU GO!!! CHOO!!

 

Um, because this isn't HS football?

 

I don't care if you had Dick Butkus like talent, you should not stop playing a position for 3+ years then suddenly begin starting at a position like LB in the matter of a week. Moreover, it should not happen at a major D1 university that should have talent for days to even prevent something like this from happening.

 

For one reason beyond anything else going against Cody, he does not know the scheme and coverage practices. Do you think he stepped in and learned these faster than other kids who have studied this for months?

 

It is beyond bad looking on our LBs to have a guy become a LB and in a matter of a week take someones job.

 

That is no knock on Cody, but a knock on the overall depth we have at LB.

 

Then by all means..

We shouldn't let Cody start..

 

What would ESPN say?

 

The other conference schools will laugh at us.

 

If that made any sense, I may know how to respond accordingly.

 

But I'll just use this to make you laugh ..

 

 

 

In any case, if you think LB is as easy to play on the college level as you say, then God help you.

 

I always thought Linebacker was the easiest position to play because 82% of it is instinct..That, and it's about the only position the coaches let me play...

 

It sounds like you'd send Cody back to the Offensive backfield just because it would look bad if we let him start on Defense.

Who cares what it looks like, let him play where he can make the most contribution.

[BigRedfxtoy]

He may very well have good instincts, but how much of that comes from playing offense for 3 years. I think he probably looks good agianst the offense because he is very familiar with what happens during certain formations. Lets wait till fall before we annoint him as an all-american.

Wouldn't that be what makes him a better linebacker?

 

Thats my whole point. He is familiar with what Castille and the rest of OUR offense is thinking before they even think it. However he wont have the luxury of knowing the other teams playbook when he goes up agianst the rest of the Big 12. Dont get me wrong i would love to see him excel, I'm just a little skeptical.

Point taken. I hope he does excel, I agree with Willie that we are VERY thin at linebacker. I haven't heard a lot of good things about Blake from the open practice they had on Saturday.

 

I am sure hoping the D-line picks it up this year. If the D-line can make some strides it will take the pressure off of our dwindling line backer corps.

 

From my understanding the D-line will be lined up differently this year. No open end, but, more of a head to head matchup and not the normal double team every down. I think this will let a few of these guys shine alot more. I never agreed with that crap. Carriker would have been a beast one on one and prob did a much better and disruptive job. We'll see how this works, I for one am excited.

[HUSKER 37]

where the hell does the name BUCK come from? WILL is weakside, MIKE is middle...these names make sense. SAM is strongside...makes sense. What the hell is BUCK? Broadside?

 

I don't honestly care what the terminology is, but have it make some f*ckin sense.

 

sorry for the off topic question.

 

I remember Glenn bringing the pain against ISU and A&M two years ago, but where's he been since. The fact that he can go from basically fourth-string RB to first-string LB shows that he can play ball.

 

"Buck" Linebacker's responsibility is more pass rush based but often is called into run stop (gap control) and pass coverage.

 

(Just when I thought Linebacker was easy)

 

 

Linebacker

A Linebacker (LB) is a position in American and Canadian football that was invented by football coach Fielding Yost of the University of Michigan and first played by Germany Schulz. Linebackers are members of the defensive team, and line up approximately three to four yards (4 m) behind the line of scrimmage, behind the defensive linemen. Linebackers generally align themselves before the ball is snapped by standing upright in a "two point stance" (as opposed to the defensive linemen, who put one or two hands on the ground for a "three point stance" or "four point stance" before the ball is snapped).

 

 

Formations

The number of linebackers is dependent upon the formation called for in the play; formations can call for as few as none, or as many as seven. Most defensive schemes call for three or four, and they are named for the number of linemen, followed by the number of linebackers. For example, the 4-3 defense has four defensive linemen and three linebackers; conversely, the 3-4 defense has three linemen and four linebackers.

 

 

4-3 Defense

In the 4-3 defense there are four down linemen and three linebackers. The middle linebacker is designated "Mike" and two outside linebackers are designated "Sam" and "Will" according to how they line up against the offensive formation. If there is a strong call, the linebacker on the strongside is called "Sam", while the linebacker on the weakside is called "Will". The outside linebackers' job is to cover the end to make sure a run doesn't escape, and to also watch the pass and protect from it. The middle linebackers' job is to stop runs between the Tackles and watch the entire field to see the play develop. On pass plays, the linebackers responsibilities vary based upon whether a man or zone coverage is called. In a zone coverage, the linebackers will generally drop into hook zones across the middle of the field. However, some zones will send the outside linebackers into the flats. In a man-to-man call, the "Sam" will often cover the tight end with help from a safety over the top, while at other times, the "Sam" and "Will" will be responsible for the first man out of the backfield on their side of the center, with the "Mike" covering if a second man exits on that side of the field.

 

In the "Tampa 2" zone defense the middle linebacker is required to drop quickly into a deep middle zone pass coverage thus requiring a quick player at this position.

 

 

3-4 Defense

In the 3-4 Defense there are three lineman playing the line of scrimmage with four linebackers backing them up, typically two outside linebackers and two inside linebackers. The weakside inside linebacker is typically called the "Will," while the strongside inside linebacker is called the "Mike."

 

The idea behind the 3-4 Defense is to disguise where the fourth rusher will come from. Instead of the standard four down-linemen in the 4-3, only 3 players are clearly attacking on nearly every play. A key for running this defense successfully is having a defensive front of three large defensive linemen who command constant double teams. In particular, the Nose Tackle, who plays over the offensive center, must be able to hold ground and to occupy several offensive blockers in order to allow the linebackers to make plays. The focus of the 3-4 defensive line is to occupy offensive linemen thus freeing the linebackers to tackle the running back or to rush the passer or otherwise drop into pass coverage.

 

Generally, both outside linebackers can rush the passer and play the run. Outside linebackers in the 3-4 defense tend to be larger in comparison to linebackers in a base 4-3 defense. They are also often players who would play DE in a 4-3 defense as situational pass rushing specialists but who otherwise may not fit the expected role of a DE being somewhat smaller in size. Outside linebackers should be able to drop into pass coverage, rush the passer or read and react. When it comes to the inside linebackers, one is generally a run stuffing player who is better able to handle offensive linemen and stop running backs when the offense features a running play, while the other is often a smaller, faster player who excels in pass coverage. However, the smaller or cover LB should also be able to scrape and plug running lanes decently.

 

The design concept of the 3-4 defense is to confuse the offensive line in their blocking assignments, particularly in pass blocking, and to create a more complex read for the quarterback. Many 3-4 defenses have the ability to quickly hybrid into a 4-3 on the field. The 3-4 typically has larger, slower players in the front seven than in the respective positions in the 4-3, leaving more pressure on the defensive backs.

 

 

46 Defense

In the 46 defense, there are four linemen, three linebackers, and a safety who is moved up behind the line of scrimmage. Thus it appears as if there are 4 linebackers, but it is really 3 linebackers with one safety playing up with the other linebackers. Three of the defensive linemen are over both of the offensive guards and the center, thereby making it difficult to double team any one of the three interior defensive linemen. This can also take away the ability of the offense to pull the guards on a running play, because this would leave one of the defenders unblocked, or, at best, give another lineman a very difficult block to make on one of the defenders. The safety, like the linebackers, can blitz, play man-on-man, play zone, or drop back into deep coverage like a normal safety would do. The 46 is used in heavy run situations; when a team wants to bring lots of pressure; or merely to confuse the quarterback and offensive line. In the 46 the outside linebacker on the strong side (the side with the tight end) lines up to play end and the two other linebackers hook the curl by dropping back at a 45 degree angle about 10-15 yards. Buddy Ryan is generally regarded as the originator of this defense, developing it and using it with great success with the 1985 Chicago Bears. It was named in honor of Chicago Bears safety, Doug Plank who wore the number 46.

 

 

4-4 Defense

This rarely-used defense is effective at run-stopping, but slightly weaker than a 4-3 defense at pass protection due to it only using 3 defensive backs. It is used more in college and high-school football than in the NFL.

 

 

Types of linebackers

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There are several different designations of linebackers: strongside, middle, and weakside. Usually the strongside and weakside are combined under the title outside, and the middle is renamed inside. In many formations and systems teams do not use the strong and weakside designations, and merely play their outside linebackers consistently on one side of the formation and designate them either right outside linebacker and left outside linebacker. These terms are abbreviated ROLB and LOLB when appearing in lineup cards.

 

 

Outside linebacker

 

Strongside linebacker

The strongside linebacker (SLB) is often nicknamed "Sam" for purposes of calling a blitz. Since the strong side of the offensive team is the side on which the tight end lines up, the strongside linebacker usually lines up across from the tight end. Often the strongside linebacker will be called upon to tackle the running back on a play, because the back will be following the tight end's block. He is most often the strongest linebacker, at the least he possess the ability to withstand, shed, and fight off blocks from a TE or (in passing situtations) an FB blocking the backside of a pass play.

 

 

Weakside linebacker

The weakside linebacker (WLB), or "Will", must be the fastest of the three, because he is often the one called into pass coverage. He is also usually chasing the play from the backside, so the ability to maneuver through traffic is a necessity for Will. Will usually aligns off the line of scrimmage at the same depth as Mike. Due to his position on the weakside, Will does not often have to face large interior linemen one on one unless one is pulling. In coverage, Will often covers the back that attacks his side of the field first in man coverage, while covering the weak flat or hook/curl areas in zone coverage. In a 3-4 defense the "Will" Linebacker plays on the "weakside" of the two middle Linebacker positions and a 4th Linebacker comes in to play the weakside. Known as a "Rush", "Rover", and/or "Buck" Linebacker, their responsibility is more pass rush based but often is called into run stop (gap control) and pass coverage.

 

 

Middle/Inside linebacker

Typically the middle linebacker (MLB), or "Mike", is responsible for calling the defensive play and communicating with the coach. The middle linebacker's primary responsibility is to be the lead tackler and shut down the opposition's running attack. In some defenses, Mike is responsible for a specific gap, while in others he's given more freedom. Due to his position directly over the ball, Mike must be able to effectively shed blocks coming from interior linemen but must also possess the range and speed to cover backs and shut down wide runs. Intense aggressiveness is often a desirable characteristic in a middle linebacker as hesitation of any duration can be fatal at this position. In the 3-4 defense, there are 2 different inside linebackers that occupy the middle, therefore the one closer to the strong side is called the "Mike", while the weak side is called "Will" and less often "Buck" or "Jack". Also Middle and Inside linebackers are known as LILB or RILB, which stands for Left Inside Linebacker and Right Inside Linebacker. This just depends on whether or not a linebacker is put in for the Middle Linebacker position when they usaully play Outside Linebacker.

 

 

Roles of linebackers

As referenced above, linebackers must often be the most versatile players on the defensive team. They are called on to perform all functions of a defense from run support to pass rush to coverage. Linebackers have long been considered the heart and soul of the defense. For this reason, quality linebackers are highly sought-after players.

[bbhusker]

It sounds like you'd send Cody back to the Offensive backfield just because it would look bad if we let him start on Defense.

Who cares what it looks like, let him play where he can make the most contribution.

 

 

Agreed. This kid is busting his a$$ and as fans we shouldn't do anything but support him and encourage him. Ask Bo if he cares what other people think of his decisions.

[huskerjack23]

where the hell does the name BUCK come from? WILL is weakside, MIKE is middle...these names make sense. SAM is strongside...makes sense. What the hell is BUCK? Broadside?

 

I don't honestly care what the terminology is, but have it make some f*ckin sense.

 

sorry for the off topic question.

 

I remember Glenn bringing the pain against ISU and A&M two years ago, but where's he been since. The fact that he can go from basically fourth-string RB to first-string LB shows that he can play ball.

 

"Buck" Linebacker's responsibility is more pass rush based but often is called into run stop (gap control) and pass coverage.

 

(Just when I thought Linebacker was easy)

 

 

pass rush, that's what i like to hear. i'd rather have our outside backers attacking the ball instead of trailing in pass coverage. just go after someone and hit em in the effin mouth.

[AR Husker Fan]

BigWillie

 

If you are so dumb...

thrilla04, take a moment and read the Board rules. Personal attacks are not permitted. If you can't debate without resorting to them, find another place to post.

[thrilla04]

BigWillie... I'm sorry

[StillWatchin]

hahaha thrilla04 ---- i love that guy.

 

 

I wish I could see BigWillie go head up with Mr. Glenn

[xkbubo]

hahaha thrilla04 ---- i love that guy.

 

 

I wish I could see BigWillie go head up with Mr. Glenn

 

I'd pay to see that.

[BigWillie]

BigWillie

 

If you are so dumb to not realize that speed, strength, quickness, work ethic, and being smart are compatible with being a good football player, then with all due respect.. God help "you". Anybody with common sense knows this. Glenn has all of the above factors, and that "IS" the reason that he is doing well right now... not because "you" think that our LB group is not. I agree with you, our LB's are not by any means great... but at the same time just because 1 person does well gives you no reason to assume that all of the other LB's stink. Yes LB seems to be a weaker link for us, but me assuming that they are pretty good and Glenn is doing well is no different than you thinking that they all suck and Glenn sucks a little less... either way anyone looks at it, Glenn is still outperforming... even if it is a "Cinderella" story. And I never said playing LB is easy, I'm simply saying that it is harder to get passed blockers, get into pass coverage quickly, and make tackles than it is to understand what to do on a play. Knowing what to do is much easier than actually doing.

 

Cody is not the fastest among our LBs.

 

Cody is nowhere close to the hardest working LB.

 

Cody has no knowledge of the defense compared to our other LBs.

 

Strength -- you got me there, but Dilly is a beast himself in the weight room.

 

And again I will say for the 48th time -- I AM NOT BASHING CODY! Good God how are things twisted just for the sake of debating.

 

I have said it over and over and over -- I am talking about the overall depth of our players.

 

Tell you what, analyze this for me and tell me what would be the job of the weakside LB ..

 

Weak-I formation, two WR set. H-back is in for the FB. The TE goes in motion to the weak side. The TE runs a curl pattern from the weakside. The H-Back runs into the flat. The opposite WR runs a 20 yard post. We set ourselves in cover 2. What is the job of that weakside LB?

 

All this is hypothetical, of course.

 

But I'm guessing strength, speed, work ethic, etc., will take care of that.

 

As I said before, stuff like the hypothetical situation I just gave you is not something you can pick up in a week, regardless of your talent level. It doesn't matter how hard you hit, how fast you run, how high you can jump or even how smart you are. You cannot pick stuff like that up without constant reps in the defense. That doesn't happen in a week.

 

The hypothetical situation I gave you is only one of numerous coverages Cody will have thrown at him and will have to learn. Not only that, but he will have to learn other responsibilities that go with it.

 

I can go on and on about stuff like coverage responsibilities, but it goes further than that. You can talk about proper technique when taking on a block. Every block is not the same and you need to know how to peel off that block. Not only that, but do it the right and proper way so you do not hang a teammate out to dry.

 

Want me to talk about proper technique in coverage too?

 

But I guess running fast and being a horse in the weight room takes care of all of that within a week.

 

As I'm going to say for the 49th time -- I am not bashing Cody. I am happy he has found a home where he has and am happy he is seemingly doing well. However, in the matter of a week he has outperformed guys who have been doing things he is just learning for months or years in advance of him, but cannot hold him off for more than a week speaks more volumes about them than it does the talent level of Cody right now.

 

I'll say it one more time so it doesn't get twisted again. That is not saying Cody doesn't have talent.

 

Geez.

 

And as far as people saying they would like to see me hit Cody -- set it up and I'll be happy to. I know and you know he'll put me on my butt, but who really cares? Is that supposed to mean something? But someone actually hitting would be a change of pace from last year.

[rawhide-jr]

How much more knowledge of Bo's defense do the other LB's have over Glenn? This is a new system, is it not? Not to mention the fact that our current LB corps doesn't have enough minutes of experience to add up to one game... I welcome his talent.

[RedDenver]

Tell you what, analyze this for me and tell me what would be the job of the weakside LB ..

 

Weak-I formation, two WR set. H-back is in for the FB. The TE goes in motion to the weak side. The TE runs a curl pattern from the weakside. The H-Back runs into the flat. The opposite WR runs a 20 yard post. We set ourselves in cover 2. What is the job of that weakside LB?

Kill EVERYBODY... and let the paramedics sort them out.

[bbhusker]

Tell you what, analyze this for me and tell me what would be the job of the weakside LB ..

 

Weak-I formation, two WR set. H-back is in for the FB. The TE goes in motion to the weak side. The TE runs a curl pattern from the weakside. The H-Back runs into the flat. The opposite WR runs a 20 yard post. We set ourselves in cover 2. What is the job of that weakside LB?

 

In man coverage the weakside LB covers the first man that attacks his side of the field first. In zone, he drops back and covers the weak side flat or hook/curl areas.

 

Correct?