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People seem to be expecting Lee to play like a marquee NFL quarterback. Nearly any college game you watch, you're going to see ducks, underthrows, overthrows, etc etc. Lee is nowhere near a college marquee QB, but he's playing fine today. It's sad, but at this point people are willing to jump on him for any tiny mistake he makes.

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Zac Lee is not playing outstanding, but worse than him is our wideouts. Niles Paul is simply a failure. Meno Holt––some kind of hybrid offensive lineman, as he can get holding fouls but not catch the ball. Again, our offense is stupid, undisciplined, and self-destructive. Our defense should have made this a cakewalk for them by now, and they can't get it done. We may win based off a defensive score, but good luck to Lee and Co. They can't run or throw with any consistency. Truly a sad sight.

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The offense has no spark. Make a change to give it one.

 

Does anyone else think it's stupid running the option with Lee? He's no threat to run, so it seems like a dumb choice to me. What happened to all the heavy sets and running the ball that we heard about all week?

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Zac Lee is not playing well. But worse than him is our wideouts. Niles Paul is simply a failure. Meno Holt––some kind of hybrid offensive lineman, as he can get holding fouls but not catch the ball. Again, our offense is stupid, undisciplined, and self-destructive. Our defense should have made this a cakewalk for them by now, and they can't get it done. We may win based off a defensive score, but good luck to Lee and Co. They can't run or throw with any consistency. Truly a sad sight.

Exactly. Recievers can't catch....RUN the ball with Green and our backs.

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Let's please see Green in the 2nd half.

 

 

Why? Lee is playng really well. He is not the one dropping the balls.

Because it is obvious we need a spark on offense and Green should have opportunity to see if he can provide it. Lee is throwing the same lateral passes :wtf , 4 yard dinks, and has happy feet in the pocket which is getting us nowhere (see 7 points after 2 qtrs :steam ). Paul dropped the one big play...I will give Lee that.

 

We don't need a "spark". Our offense has been fine besides the stupid mistakes. Having Green in isn't going to suddenly make guys start covering the ball better which is all we need to do. If anything, having Green in who doesn't fully know the audibles, protection schemes and tends to force passes right now will only cause more mistakes on our part.

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Let's please see Green in the 2nd half.

 

 

Why? Lee is playng really well. He is not the one dropping the balls.

Lee is only buying time. He has thrown some bad balls today. I really hope Green starts the 2nd half or we may not score again in this game offensively because Lee can't sustain a drive.

 

Besides the pass to Gilly and the pass to that invisible guy on that last drive, what passes are you referring to?

 

Zac is 14-22 for 181, and we have 250 yards of total offense. We have been fine on offense, besides the fact we have become mental midgets and had terrible luck.

7 points against ISU at home!!!!!! That's fine?

 

we only have 7 points because we have too many turnovers! only one can really be linked to Lee.

 

Helu fumbled on the opening drive.

A freak volleyball type pick.

A the the Paul loses control of the ball after a great 71 yd pass from Lee.

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Doesn't some of this poor play fall on the play caller? He has called 2 of the same damn lateral pass plays that never work for us. The same lateral pass play OU picked 6 last year, and TT recovered for 6. We dropped one that luckily wasn't a fumble, and gained 3 yards on another. We need to take more shots down field to open up this dink and dunk passing game. Personally I think it is time for Green to take over and a change in offensive philosophy needs to occur. Run the ball with the QB and RB's. Don't throw Green in there and make him throw throw throw. Utilize his strenghts, his running ability.

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Let's please see Green in the 2nd half.

 

 

Why? Lee is playng really well. He is not the one dropping the balls.

Lee is only buying time. He has thrown some bad balls today. I really hope Green starts the 2nd half or we may not score again in this game offensively because Lee can't sustain a drive.

 

Besides the pass to McNeill early, the one to Gilly and the pass to that invisible guy on that last drive, what passes are you referring to? Dude has been pretty on today, but it seems like you remember the bad ones besides the good throws he has made today.

 

Zac is 14-22 for 181, and we have 250 yards of total offense. We have been fine on offense, besides the fact we have become mental midgets and had terrible luck.

He has underthrown, missed, and put the ball in the wrong spot several times. His pass to McNeill that led to an int. Also missed him wide open earlier in the game. I'm just not going to let one good pass to Paul let me forget that most of his passes today are behind the line or short to his WR with them making the catch and run. He does not have the confidence and drive to let us score on a regular basis and is clearly not the guy that will give us a big 12 title.

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People seem to be expecting Lee to play like a marquee NFL quarterback. Nearly any college game you watch, you're going to see ducks, underthrows, overthrows, etc etc. Lee is nowhere near a college marquee QB, but he's playing fine today. It's sad, but at this point people are willing to jump on him for any tiny mistake he makes.

 

Agreed.

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Let's please see Green in the 2nd half.

 

 

Why? Lee is playng really well. He is not the one dropping the balls.

Lee is only buying time. He has thrown some bad balls today. I really hope Green starts the 2nd half or we may not score again in this game offensively because Lee can't sustain a drive.

 

Besides the pass to Gilly and the pass to that invisible guy on that last drive, what passes are you referring to?

 

Zac is 14-22 for 181, and we have 250 yards of total offense. We have been fine on offense, besides the fact we have become mental midgets and had terrible luck.

7 points against ISU at home!!!!!! That's fine?

 

Dude, look at the turnovers. We have had the ball and moved it at will on these guys. But we have kicked ourselves in our own ass.

 

The offense is fine. We just need to stop being careless with the ball.

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Let's please see Green in the 2nd half.

 

 

Why? Lee is playng really well. He is not the one dropping the balls.

Because it is obvious we need a spark on offense and Green should have opportunity to see if he can provide it. Lee is throwing the same lateral passes :wtf , 4 yard dinks, and has happy feet in the pocket which is getting us nowhere (see 7 points after 2 qtrs :steam ). Paul dropped the one big play...I will give Lee that.

A freaking Men!!! Lee has not played that well (yes, the receivers have played worse) and he is way to one dimensional. Again, Green gives us a dual threat that we DO NOT have right now.

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Let's please see Green in the 2nd half.

 

 

Why? Lee is playng really well. He is not the one dropping the balls.

Lee is only buying time. He has thrown some bad balls today. I really hope Green starts the 2nd half or we may not score again in this game offensively because Lee can't sustain a drive.

 

Besides the pass to Gilly and the pass to that invisible guy on that last drive, what passes are you referring to?

 

Zac is 14-22 for 181, and we have 250 yards of total offense. We have been fine on offense, besides the fact we have become mental midgets and had terrible luck.

7 points against ISU at home!!!!!! That's fine?

 

we only have 7 points because we have too many turnovers! only one can really be linked to Lee.

 

Helu fumbled on the opening drive.

A freak volleyball type pick.

A the the Paul loses control of the ball after a great 71 yd pass from Lee.

And if green were in the game I would hope that watson would be running more zone read, option, qb draws and stuff to nullify our lousy recievers....

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