is mizzou in deep sh#t?

[huKSer]

From what I have heard, I think Missouri turned some people off in the Big 10 by trying to use the possibility of going to the Big 10 to leverage the Big 12 at their meetings. I don't think these people in the Big 10 want someone that will be throwing out threats if they don't get their way.

 

With that being said, I still think Missouri would be an ideal fit into the Big 10. They can bring the St. Louis (what Illinois don't already have) and Kansas City markets. They also have an ideal border rivalry with Nebraska, Iowa, and Illinois. Their football program is improving, and the basketball program can be good, and has been good in the past.

 

At this point, I believe IMHO that it is mainly politics that keep Missouri out. Politics that they created in their own arrogance.

 

Also could be that even when Missouri had a good football team they were getting ass pounded by good teams whenever they lost.

Navy?

[ndog]

Mizzou could be in trouble. I doubt they get invited to the B10. Supposedly Delany told the B12 commish that they are not interested in anymore schools from their conference right now.

 

The B10 is going east, to raid the Big East. Probably two or three schools will be taken from the Big East. Most likely from new states. I think it'll be Rutgers and Syracuse. Then maybe a team from the ACC like GT, VT or Maryland. All this leading up to forcing Notre Dame to join.

[huskertillIdie]

And if Miserey is left out.....what will ever become of the Gabbert brothers??? I was always taught that you live up to your commitments. Just one thing I learned from my father...RIP

[HuskerTrucker]

From what I have heard, I think Missouri turned some people off in the Big 10 by trying to use the possibility of going to the Big 10 to leverage the Big 12 at their meetings. I don't think these people in the Big 10 want someone that will be throwing out threats if they don't get their way.

 

With that being said, I still think Missouri would be an ideal fit into the Big 10. They can bring the St. Louis (what Illinois don't already have) and Kansas City markets. They also have an ideal border rivalry with Nebraska, Iowa, and Illinois. Their football program is improving, and the basketball program can be good, and has been good in the past.

 

At this point, I believe IMHO that it is mainly politics that keep Missouri out. Politics that they created in their own arrogance.

 

Also could be that even when Missouri had a good football team they were getting ass pounded by good teams whenever they lost.

 

I think it has a lot more to do than with just athletics though. But it is important to at least be able to compete. Northwestern is in the Big 10 aren't they?

 

Yeah but i was just trying to be funny.

 

fixed that for you then...no charge.

[ladyhawke]

I hope there is some way that both MO and KU can come to the Big 10. My sister-in-law, who was born/raised in Nebraska but lives in MO and is now a die hard Tiger fan, totally bit my head off when I sent her the 'Farmaggedon' piece from this board! She totally blames Nebraska! So for my family's sake I hope they get to come along. Blah!

 

We didn't start the fire!!

-ladyhawke~

 

they must be pretty upset, and shocked. they kind of got the ball rolling with this who realignment thing by stating their interest and intent. and now they may have nowhere to go.

[Husker_x]

I hope there is some way that both MO and KU can come to the Big 10. My sister-in-law, who was born/raised in Nebraska but lives in MO and is now a die hard Tiger fan, totally bit my head off when I sent her the 'Farmaggedon' piece from this board! She totally blames Nebraska! So for my family's sake I hope they get to come along. Blah!

 

We didn't start the fire!!

-ladyhawke~

 

they must be pretty upset, and shocked. they kind of got the ball rolling with this who realignment thing by stating their interest and intent. and now they may have nowhere to go.

 

The Nebraska blame game is getting tiring. Nebraska made a successful business maneuver to save themselves from a tyranny of a conference with terrible leadership and even worse television contracts. As of this post, the Big XII conference is still in full operation and could still go on as normal and even add teams.

[illiniphil85]

My guess is the Big Ten is in pause mode as far as further expansion at this point. Not that they won't be networking, but seeing what else shakes up while integrating the Huskers into the BT. I don't have the figures that Delaney probably has, but I suspect Mizzou may still be a candidate. KU, no thanks.

[Scarlet Overkill]

The blame game IS getting old, but we will be the scape goat to some, UT will be to some, MU will be to yet some others. There is plenty of blame to go around, if you think about it. Bottom line, the leadership was so poor that it didn't matter who lit the fuse, or how close the end of the wick was to the explosive, it was going to explode eventually.

[sd'sker]

looks like they see the writing on the wall and it says, "big 12 or bust."

 

COLUMBIA, Mo. -- Missouri curators met behind closed doors Sunday night for the fourth time in as many days as the school turns its attention to saving the Big 12 Conference after its apparent bid to join the Big Ten failed.

 

The meeting followed two days of discussions in Columbia amid a shifting landscape that saw fellow Big 12 members Colorado and Nebraska bolt for the Pac-10 and Big Ten, respectively.

 

Missouri was considered one of the top prospects for an expanded Big Ten, and the school could still wind up there as conference realignment continues to unfold.

 

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For now, school officials are publicly pledging their loyalty to a 10-team Big 12 -- even as their counterparts in Texas and Oklahoma prepare for their own private meetings this week that could result in an exodus from the conference, with as many as five Big 12 teams possibly headed to the Pac-10.

 

Chancellor Brady Deaton told alumni in an e-mail he "will do everything possible to assure the success of the conference." He offered similar assurances Sunday night at a crowded news briefing on the steps of University Hall after the one-hour curator meeting, which resulted in no action.

 

He noted Missouri's century-old history with the schools that form the core of the Big 12 and its predecessors -- institutions such as Kansas, Kansas State and Iowa State that are also faced with trying to save the conference.

 

"We have been a proud member of the Big Six, Big Seven and Big Eight, and we continue to take great pride in the accomplishments of the Big 12," Deaton wrote while noting Missouri's role in forming the Missouri Valley Intercollegiate Athletic Association in 1907. "Our position as a member for more than 100 years gives us a great appreciation for the tremendous value of our conference and a vital stake in its future."

 

Those words represent a sharp turn from Missouri's previously stated interest in exploring all its options with conference realignment.

 

But those earlier flirtations came before Nebraska's departure and assertions from both Big Ten commissioner Jim Delany and Big 12 leader Dan Beebe that the oldest conference in Division I sports was not targeting any other Big 12 schools -- at least for the time being.

 

Missouri's interest in joining a bigger and broader Big Ten was met with criticism Friday from Nebraska chancellor Harvey Perlman, who cited public comments by Deaton, athletics director Mike Alden and Missouri Gov. Jay Nixon as fodder for the 14-year-old Big 12's possible collapse.

 

Alden responded by calling such assertions "silly" and "ridiculous." And University of Missouri system president Gary Forsee said the school bears no blame for simply protecting its self-interest.

 

"We were only doing what you would expect any institution, whether you're sitting here or in Lawrence, Kan., or Waco, Texas," Forsee said. "Did we contribute more or less than any other institution in the Big 12 or nationally? No. I think we've all been caught up in now this national discussion that certainly has spread beyond the Big Ten, and the Big 12 is certainly in the middle of that."

 

That would be the 10-team Big 12, as Deaton pointed out after struggling to differentiate Missouri's current home with the now 12-team Big Ten and 11-member Pac-10.

 

"We're working hard to strengthen the Big 12, or the Big Ten as it is right now. In other words,the 10 institutions left in the Big 12.

 

"Nomenclature is very difficult in this process," Deaton said.

 

 

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[sd'sker]

i'm not one to write on other boards, but i have been lurking on tigerboard, and it is crazy over there. even though they were the ones so excited about going to the big ten, and they got left out, they are talking about how a 'revamped' big 12 would be so good and how they are in a better position than we are. also, they are talking about all these positives about not being in the big 10, weren't they the ones dying to jump to the big 10?

[HuskerTrucker]

You have to laugh at Missouri, they come away looking like fools.

[sd'sker]

You have to laugh at Missouri, they come away looking like fools.

don't tell them that.