Braylon Heard

[BIG ERN]

I hope this kid can get his grades up. Anyone know if he is going to be enrolled in January? Triple Threat = T-Magic, Aaron Green, Braylon Heard.

[JOEY]

I hope this kid can get his grades up. Anyone know if he is going to be enrolled in January? Triple Threat = T-Magic, Aaron Green, Braylon Heard.

I honestly don't think that we need him that much,Aaron green can just share carries with rex next year.

[Husker_x]

I hope someone has some info. Nothing would make this class better than to know Heard is going to be taking snaps with Green next fall.

[Nexus]

I hope this kid can get his grades up. Anyone know if he is going to be enrolled in January? Triple Threat = T-Magic, Aaron Green, Braylon Heard.

I honestly don't think that we need him that much,Aaron green can just share carries with rex next year.

 

I disagree. Green needs someone to push him in practice and vice versa since they're both similar in style and speed.

[JOEY]

I hope this kid can get his grades up. Anyone know if he is going to be enrolled in January? Triple Threat = T-Magic, Aaron Green, Braylon Heard.

I honestly don't think that we need him that much,Aaron green can just share carries with rex next year.

 

I disagree. Green needs someone to push him in practice and vice versa since they're both similar in style and speed.

Yeah I guess that makes sense... I wasn't thinking about in practice competition when I posted that first post.

[RedNLeader]

I think that we need him on team...a kid with that much talent is a big BIG plus!!

[ADS]

I think the target date is sometime in January when we should know Braylons status.

[robsker]

I hope this kid can get his grades up. Anyone know if he is going to be enrolled in January? Triple Threat = T-Magic, Aaron Green, Braylon Heard.

I honestly don't think that we need him that much,Aaron green can just share carries with rex next year.

 

I disagree. Green needs someone to push him in practice and vice versa since they're both similar in style and speed.

 

I think we need Heard badly. First thing... the Big 10 is much bigger a league and more physical than the B12 (not as fast or as pass-oriented). The average OLB is ca. 230 lbs and the MLB is 250. That is ca. 20 lbs heaver than their B12 counterparts. The typical B10 RB is 215 lbs or more. Aaron Green is ca. what... 185? Green will not be an every-down back in the B10. he is too small and the cumulative punishment is too much for a guy that small. He will be a great weapon and a wonderful guy to have on the team --- but he will need stablemate as a co-RB alongside him... splitting the carries. For a time Rex could be that guy... but having Braylon Heard would help immensely --- Heard is the same caliber a back as is Green (and is also small and is himself not a B10 every-down back).

[cerny50]

Everyone that says we need Braylon just as much as we need Aaron I say couldn't agree more, both of them is a scary thought for the future.

[dylan]

I hope this kid can get his grades up. Anyone know if he is going to be enrolled in January? Triple Threat = T-Magic, Aaron Green, Braylon Heard.

I honestly don't think that we need him that much,Aaron green can just share carries with rex next year.

 

I disagree. Green needs someone to push him in practice and vice versa since they're both similar in style and speed.

the Big 10 is much bigger a league and more physical than the B12 (not as fast or as pass-oriented). The average OLB is ca. 230 lbs and the MLB is 250. That is ca. 20 lbs heaver than their B12 counterparts. The typical B10 RB is 215 lbs or more. Aaron Green is ca. what... 185? Green will not be an every-down back in the B10. he is too small and the cumulative punishment is too much for a guy that small. He will be a great weapon and a wonderful guy to have on the team --- but he will need stablemate as a co-RB alongside him... splitting the carries. For a time Rex could be that guy... but having Braylon Heard would help immensely --- Heard is the same caliber a back as is Green (and is also small and is himself not a B10 every-down back).

 

did you actually find those figures somewhere or are you just repeating a generation old stereotype of big 10 play? most of the big 10 seems to run some version of the spread. it is no longer your grandfather's 3 yards and a cloud of dust league.

[kchusker_chris]

did you actually find those figures somewhere or are you just repeating a generation old stereotype of big 10 play? most of the big 10 seems to run some version of the spread. it is no longer your grandfather's 3 yards and a cloud of dust league.

Iowa/Wisconsin certainly still are at their core. Michigan is attempting to break that mold and it's not working - expect Rich Rod gone in another year and someone will come in and "restore the order" as a blue collar team. We're certainly smaller out of that Nickel package when you throw Hagg/Cassidy in the mix. Regardless we're smaller across the board, on average aby 20-30 pounds.

 

 

Northwestern's 2 deep at OLB are 230/225/230/235 and 235/240.

Wisconsin - 223/230/231/201 and 234/237

Iowa - 220/236/235/235 and 215/238

Ohio St. - 238/219/227/225 and 218/230

Michigan St. - 232/222/220/207 and 240/235

Minnesota - 245/225/225/220 and 225/225

 

Nebraska - 225/215/210/210 and 210/240

[dylan]

did you actually find those figures somewhere or are you just repeating a generation old stereotype of big 10 play? most of the big 10 seems to run some version of the spread. it is no longer your grandfather's 3 yards and a cloud of dust league.

Iowa/Wisconsin certainly still are at their core. Michigan is attempting to break that mold and it's not working - expect Rich Rod gone in another year and someone will come in and "restore the order" as a blue collar team. We're certainly smaller out of that Nickel package when you throw Hagg/Cassidy in the mix. Regardless we're smaller across the board, on average aby 20-30 pounds.

 

 

Northwestern's 2 deep at OLB are 230/225/230/235 and 235/240.

Wisconsin - 223/230/231/201 and 234/237

Iowa - 220/236/235/235 and 215/238

Ohio St. - 238/219/227/225 and 218/230

Michigan St. - 232/222/220/207 and 240/235

Minnesota - 245/225/225/220 and 225/225

 

Nebraska - 225/215/210/210 and 210/240

 

but we don't play against our defense, which is purposefully using smaller, quicker players. more to the point (your point, that is), are the linebackers in the big 10 significantly bigger than those we face in the big 12? same question for the running backs.

[robsker]

did you actually find those figures somewhere or are you just repeating a generation old stereotype of big 10 play? most of the big 10 seems to run some version of the spread. it is no longer your grandfather's 3 yards and a cloud of dust league.

Iowa/Wisconsin certainly still are at their core. Michigan is attempting to break that mold and it's not working - expect Rich Rod gone in another year and someone will come in and "restore the order" as a blue collar team. We're certainly smaller out of that Nickel package when you throw Hagg/Cassidy in the mix. Regardless we're smaller across the board, on average aby 20-30 pounds.

 

 

Northwestern's 2 deep at OLB are 230/225/230/235 and 235/240.

Wisconsin - 223/230/231/201 and 234/237

Iowa - 220/236/235/235 and 215/238

Ohio St. - 238/219/227/225 and 218/230

Michigan St. - 232/222/220/207 and 240/235

Minnesota - 245/225/225/220 and 225/225

 

Nebraska - 225/215/210/210 and 210/240

 

but we don't play against our defense, which is purposefully using smaller, quicker players. more to the point (your point, that is), are the linebackers in the big 10 significantly bigger than those we face in the big 12? same question for the running backs.

 

My point is a simple one --- having two excellent, albeit smallish RB's (like Heard and Green each at 190 or less) is much better than having one such back. In order to be an every-down running back in the B10, one would have to be able to readily absorb a great deal of hits --- and, if that back is, say... 215-230 pounds they will have a much, much better chance of dealing with the load than would a single back weighing in some 40 pounds lighter (like A Green). So... for NU to exploit the B10 with shifty and ultra-fast RB's (that are smallish, like Green) then having two such backs to spread out the abuse by liberal substitution w/o drop-off is much better than depending upon one such back. For this reason... Braylon Heard is exceedingly important to the Huskers. Or, if not Heard.... then who?

[dylan]

did you actually find those figures somewhere or are you just repeating a generation old stereotype of big 10 play? most of the big 10 seems to run some version of the spread. it is no longer your grandfather's 3 yards and a cloud of dust league.

Iowa/Wisconsin certainly still are at their core. Michigan is attempting to break that mold and it's not working - expect Rich Rod gone in another year and someone will come in and "restore the order" as a blue collar team. We're certainly smaller out of that Nickel package when you throw Hagg/Cassidy in the mix. Regardless we're smaller across the board, on average aby 20-30 pounds.

 

 

Northwestern's 2 deep at OLB are 230/225/230/235 and 235/240.

Wisconsin - 223/230/231/201 and 234/237

Iowa - 220/236/235/235 and 215/238

Ohio St. - 238/219/227/225 and 218/230

Michigan St. - 232/222/220/207 and 240/235

Minnesota - 245/225/225/220 and 225/225

 

Nebraska - 225/215/210/210 and 210/240

 

but we don't play against our defense, which is purposefully using smaller, quicker players. more to the point (your point, that is), are the linebackers in the big 10 significantly bigger than those we face in the big 12? same question for the running backs.

 

My point is a simple one --- having two excellent, albeit smallish RB's (like Heard and Green each at 190 or less) is much better than having one such back. In order to be an every-down running back in the B10, one would have to be able to readily absorb a great deal of hits --- and, if that back is, say... 215-230 pounds they will have a much, much better chance of dealing with the load than would a single back weighing in some 40 pounds lighter (like A Green). So... for NU to exploit the B10 with shifty and ultra-fast RB's (that are smallish, like Green) then having two such backs to spread out the abuse by liberal substitution w/o drop-off is much better than depending upon one such back. For this reason... Braylon Heard is exceedingly important to the Huskers. Or, if not Heard.... then who?

 

i agree that smaller backs may necessitate slightly greater depth, though i think we should always have two high level backs and a couple more decent or unproven ones, regardless of size/style.

 

i just think the differences in style of play and type of athletes between the leagues is way, way overblown.

[dylan]

i went ahead and crunched the numbers for the average weight of the players on the two deep at RB, MLB and OLB for the Big 10 and the Big 12 teams other than NU (obviously, we don't play ourselves in either league), to give a comparison of our competition in the two leagues.

 

for the Big 10:

 

RB - 210

MLB - 233

OLB - 225

 

for the Little 11:

 

RB - 207

MLB - 234

OLB - 226

 

as you can see, there is practically no difference in the size of these positions between the leagues.