PS3 Online Server Down

[redblooded]

Stealing the info of 100 million people kinda precludes you from 'going on to do legit things.' This is felony territory, they have forfeited their futures.

 

For a minute there I thought you were talking about Zuckerburg. I suppose tricking people to willingly give it up and selling it is different. How different is allowing apps to steal it through shoddy APIs though?

 

You didn't quantify it as hackers who steal > (some #) of personal informations need to have their hands cut off to kill their hacking careers and end their love lives. Whats that number? Should the random chan kid using LOIC as part of the crowd still qualify even though they don't have the knowledge to do anything more advanced yet? Seemed like they did before. I do agree that carders crossed the line into federal prison territory rather then going legit later. Although that won't be the case if they are caught, they'll probably get to work for the secret service like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Gonzalez because those groups are hard to infiltrate. Then they'll lock them up after they do something high profile again under the secret service's watch.

 

Complaining about stereotyping is not even a tad hypocritical. Here we have "all hackers should have their hands cut off." Where's the line between carders, hacker, hacktivist, script kiddies, or someone who can run a program and enter an ip address to flood a website? It's not all the same group attacking Sony (who is just as evil as anyone under those labels). You do know Sony is a company that has a history of among (many) other things installing root kits on unsuspecting people's computers through music CDs just a few years ago, right? What are we supposed to do with their hands? Also it isn't hackers that took the PSN down, its Sony and the Credit Card companies that are auditing them now to decide whether Sony gets to keep their merchant status. Since Sony obviously didn't have the system admin staff good enough to know who got in, how, where, or what they took not to mention prevent it in the first place.

 

Its a good thing you guys weren't around for IRC wars and crap in the 90s where if someone didn't like what someone else said or what they did to them they'd simply take them or their ISP offline for a few hours and they didn't need a bot net to do it because you could spoof a ping request to a broadcast and turn entire networks into unwitting flooders. Imagine trying to play CoD where if you were good enough to piss someone off they could send a single packet to your pc and freeze it requiring a reboot. Which only fixed it until windows got another one of those packets and those vulnerabilities were around and unpatched for months or years. The entire internet would be at defcon5 of nerd-rage then. Point is these things, while inconvenient and a pita, have to happen for things to get better. The fact that it happened to Sony is just poetic justice, couldn't have happened to a bigger a-hole evil corporation. Hopefully some of their customers realize who they are dealing with now.

[huzkerbob]

Stealing the info of 100 million people kinda precludes you from 'going on to do legit things.' This is felony territory, they have forfeited their futures.

 

For a minute there I thought you were talking about Zuckerburg. I suppose tricking people to willingly give it up and selling it is different. How different is allowing apps to steal it through shoddy APIs though?

 

You didn't quantify it as hackers who steal > (some #) of personal informations need to have their hands cut off to kill their hacking careers and end their love lives. Whats that number? Should the random chan kid using LOIC as part of the crowd still qualify even though they don't have the knowledge to do anything more advanced yet? Seemed like they did before. I do agree that carders crossed the line into federal prison territory rather then going legit later. Although that won't be the case if they are caught, they'll probably get to work for the secret service like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Gonzalez because those groups are hard to infiltrate. Then they'll lock them up after they do something high profile again under the secret service's watch.

 

Complaining about stereotyping is not even a tad hypocritical. Here we have "all hackers should have their hands cut off." Where's the line between carders, hacker, hacktivist, script kiddies, or someone who can run a program and enter an ip address to flood a website? It's not all the same group attacking Sony (who is just as evil as anyone under those labels). You do know Sony is a company that has a history of among (many) other things installing root kits on unsuspecting people's computers through music CDs just a few years ago, right? What are we supposed to do with their hands? Also it isn't hackers that took the PSN down, its Sony and the Credit Card companies that are auditing them now to decide whether Sony gets to keep their merchant status. Since Sony obviously didn't have the system admin staff good enough to know who got in, how, where, or what they took not to mention prevent it in the first place.

 

Its a good thing you guys weren't around for IRC wars and crap in the 90s where if someone didn't like what someone else said or what they did to them they'd simply take them or their ISP offline for a few hours and they didn't need a bot net to do it because you could spoof a ping request to a broadcast and turn entire networks into unwitting flooders. Imagine trying to play CoD where if you were good enough to piss someone off they could send a single packet to your pc and freeze it requiring a reboot. Which only fixed it until windows got another one of those packets and those vulnerabilities were around and unpatched for months or years. The entire internet would be at defcon5 of nerd-rage then. Point is these things, while inconvenient and a pita, have to happen for things to get better. The fact that it happened to Sony is just poetic justice, couldn't have happened to a bigger a-hole evil corporation. Hopefully some of their customers realize who they are dealing with now.

 

Unlike Microsoft? Because we all know they're a bunch a saints in starched shirts and penny loafers....

[Blaze1up]

I'm hearing it might be back up by May 31st.

[VectorVictor]

I'm hearing it might be back up by May 31st.

 

PSN actually came back up for the continental US last night (05-15-2011). It's still hit or miss, with everyone needing to download a new firmware update and reset their account settings, but the switch has been flipped back to the 'on' position.

 

Now, let's see when/if they make with the goodies and free credit monitoring...

[strigori]

I'm hearing it might be back up by May 31st.

 

PSN actually came back up for the continental US last night (05-15-2011). It's still hit or miss, with everyone needing to download a new firmware update and reset their account settings, but the switch has been flipped back to the 'on' position.

 

Now, let's see when/if they make with the goodies and free credit monitoring...

They have announced the free goodies.

 

All PlayStation Network customers can select two PS3 games from the following list. The games will be available for 30 days shortly after PlayStation Store is restored and can be kept forever.

 

Dead Nation

inFAMOUS

LittleBigPlanet

Super Stardust HD

Wipeout HD + Fury

 

For PSP owners, you will be eligible to download two PSP games from the following list. The games will be available for 30 days shortly after PlayStation Store is restored and can be kept forever.

 

LittleBigPlanet (PSP)

ModNation Racers

Pursuit Force

Killzone Liberation

 

A selection of “On Us” rental movie titles will be available to PlayStation Network customers over one weekend, where Video Service is available. Those titles will be announced soon.

30 days free PlayStation Plus membership for non PlayStation Plus subscribers.

Existing PlayStation Plus subscribers will receive an additional 60 days of free subscription.

 

 

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