Michigan @Iowa: Who do we want to win?

[Sub-Husker]

My wife is a Michigan fan, and it is in my best interest to see her in a good mood!

[The Dude]

My wife is a Michigan fan, and it is in my best interest to see her in a good mood!

This is by far the best reasoning I've read yet as to why a Husker fan would root for Michigan in this game, and I'm not even being sarcastic. Make sure to have the flowers, chocolate, and wine ready for when Nebraska knocks the snot out of Michigan.

[huskered17]

MICHIGAN! If you want to look stronger in your league, then it would be better to be atop your division because you beat them even though they are good than to win the division just because everybody else lost. I want a 1-loss Michigan team when we play them, and if we win, THEN we deserve to go to the CCG.

What part of this do you guys not get? It's not like a Big Ten team is losing to an SEC, MAC, or a PAC team, its all IN CONFERENCE. What looks worse, beating a 5-2 Iowa team, or beating a 3-4 Iowa team?

 

IT'S A FREAKING WASH PEOPLE!!! I'd personally rather go to Indy with a 6-2 conference record than be sitting at home with a 6-2 conference record, while a 6-2 Michigan or 6-2 MSU plays in Indy. This whole strength of schedule and "what looks better" means absolutely nothing. The SOS is determined (by and large) in your non-conference schedule, since in conference play the conference will have a .500 winning percentage. On top of that, the B1G gave us the top 3 teams from the other division, so, if Michigan or MSU (or both) lose another game, I'll take it.

 

 

It won't do you any good to argue with some of these posters. No one from the B1G is going to the n/c game unless there is some major upsets, not going to happen. We have the toughest road to hoe from here on out. SOS doesn't mean much now, for us. Lets just get to the B1G championship game, don't care if we have to beat the" sisters of the poor" to get there. The ROSE BOWL is a great prize in its self.

 

GBR!!!

[Sub-Husker]

My wife is a Michigan fan, and it is in my best interest to see her in a good mood!

This is by far the best reasoning I've read yet as to why a Husker fan would root for Michigan in this game, and I'm not even being sarcastic. Make sure to have the flowers, chocolate, and wine ready for when Nebraska knocks the snot out of Michigan.

 

She still does not like Zack Bowman.

[bshirt]

I just can't decide as it's a big pleasure seeing the Hogeyes lose (lots of fun this year...even with their NFL MVP Vandenburg, whom the Hawkeye fans we're telling us all off-season that he's the greatest cfb qb ever).

 

Otoh, it's nice to shake whatever the confidence level Michigan has too.

 

Really, I think it doesn't matter. The Big10 threw the toughest schedule they could put together for us so we'll have to beat the best that they have to get to the ccg anyway. I kind of like earning it the old fashioned way.

 

GBR!!

[jgreen727]

I don't understand how people can say they would rather lose to a highly ranked Michigan team and not make it to the B1G Championship game than have a little help from Iowa in case we drop a game down the stretch...

 

From a recruiting prospective I think it would be huge to play in the B1G Championship game in December so I am for whatever it takes to get to Indianapolis.

 

For all of those who are wanting a return to "glory" I think a step in the right direction would be a Conference Championship in our first year in the B1G even if it is with a 10-2 regular season record. With our schedule how many people would have been thrilled to finish that way?

 

[Sub-Husker]

I don't understand how people can say they would rather lose to a highly ranked Michigan team and not make it to the B1G Championship game than have a little help from Iowa in case we drop a game down the stretch...

 

As been said before... if we want to rely on having lesser competition to make it to a championship game when we aren't that good ourself, then we should have joined the Big East.

[AK-47]

Is it at all possible that both teams lose this game? Please??

[knapplc]

If we win out it doesn't matter who wins their game. Let's just beat NW, Michigan and Iowa and we're in the CCG.

[JJ Husker]

If we win out it doesn't matter who wins their game. Let's just beat NW, Penn State, Michigan and Iowa and we're in the CCG.

Fixed it for ya.

[Takeitsleazy]

Personally, we need Michigan State to lose more than anyone else, even if Michigan beats us, Ohio State will shut them down.

[HuskerShark]

So Michigan having two losses would somehow make us akin to Boise State?

 

No, just no.

 

I think you are missing the concept. Making it to the CCG because everybody else just lost too much so we get in by beating lesser opponents is similar to Boise State or someone in the Big LEast conference. You want to be a great program? Beat the best competition possible. And for this to be true, we want to play a 1-loss Michigan team when we head to the Big House in a couple weeks. If we win, we deserve to go to the CCG. If we lose, we don't deserve to go. That simple. As I said in an earlier post^, it's all about one word: PRIDE

[Sub-Husker]

Personally, we need Michigan State to lose more than anyone else.

 

That happened last weekend... we don't need anything else from Sparty.

[JJ Husker]

I understand what your saying 74Hunter but I'm with HuskerShark on this one. We control our own destiny and I wouldn't want it any other way. If we don't take care of business, then we don't deserve the CCG. I'm tired of being inconsequential and relying on others to boost us up. If we want it then we should take it. If not, then we can go to the whatever bowl with all the other losers that didn't do enough to earn their own way. If it isn't this year, then I am prepared to wait until it is. Therefore I want Michigan and all other B1G teams to win all of their games except when we play them. Nobody (poll voters not SOS computers) will give us any credit for beating Iowa but a higher ranked Michigan may get us a little more national attention. If we aren't good enough to do it then it also may save us embarrassment down the road. I don't want any charity or CCG's between 2 or 3 loss teams. The B1G needs an image makeover and we're just the team to help that out. I'm sick of being told how good the SEC is. No more top 20 BS, I'm talking top 5 or go home.

 

Very well put, JJHusker1. Exactly my point. We are demanding as fans (as we should be) that the Huskers return to the greatness of winning championships. This means we mow over anyone in our path, and Iowa has already had some embarrassing losses, so I would rather have Michigan win so we face a 1-loss Michigan team, and if we beat them, it makes us look that much stronger.

 

Personally, I think that Iowa loses to Michigan by at least 2 scores, probably 3.

So, by JJ's thinking, when we won championships in the 90's yet there were only 3 or 4 ranked teams in the conference(specifically 97, but also 94), it was much better because we had no competition, maybe play one or two tough in conference games per year and we could dominate? Somehow that was more legit? Well, I remember people cracking on us for winning a weak league, specifically people from the Big Ten. Do you feel bad about playing in the last two CCG in 09 and 10?

 

Again, what you are failing to realize is that if Michigan and/or Michigan State lose to Iowa, IT DOESN'T FREAKING MATTER!!!! What matters is your conference record, head to head, and then intra divisional records. Why is this so hard for some of you to get??? The B1G will not get respect that the SEC and Big 12 get, and rightfully so, until they can run off a series of many years that are comparable to what those 2 leagues have. Also, if you are so worried about supposed "respect" and "what it looks like" think of this: Iowa wins its next three. Nebraska either wins/loses to a 8-2 Michigan team who would be ranked 15-25, we already beat an MSU team that would likely be 8-3 or 9-3 and still in the top 25, but then we would be able to face an 8-3 Iowa team who had just beat 2 top 25 teams in back to back weeks, and would likely be Top 25 or Top 30. We would get a hell of alot more respect for beating that Iowa team (if we do) than we would beating a 6-5 Iowa team that looks like crap. On top of that, if the Divisional Championship were on the line for the Iowa game, it would make it worthwhile. But if a 6-5 Iowa team comes in here to play spoiler and does, or at least make it a nail biter, it would look very bad on us.

 

I would love to win out, win the CCG, and have our shot at getting beat by either Stanford or Oregon, but I also wouldn't mind having a little bit of a cushion going into that last weekend. Hell, I want us to dominate like we did in the good old days, but those days are over, and this team is not close to what those teams were. I will take whatever we can get right now. And being 10-2 and playing a 10-2 Wisconsin or a 9-3 O$U in the CCG, I will take that.

 

Wouldn't you want Michigan to win so they're more respected when you beat them?

 

..........but if so, I would expect this from someone who is not accustomed to divisional play so forgive my tone, but again, in the big scheme, IT DOESN'T F'ING MATTER HOW RESPECTED ANOTHER TEAM IS!!!!!! SINCE THE MNC IS OUT OF THE QUESTION, WINNING THE DIVISION AND THE CCG ARE ALL THAT MATTER!!!! IF WE LOSE THIS WEEK, NONE OF THIS MATTERS. WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

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Well we are going to have to agree to disagree. You can yell, scream, stomp your feet, and act as incredulous as you wish but I am never going to accept mediocrity. The CCG means little to me if we can't do it with respect, dignity, and excellence. If you're willing to settle for a participation ribbon, I'm not going to tell you that you're wrong but I'm sure as heck not going to share in the viewpoint. I had the good fortune to witness the glory years firsthand; early 70's as a 8+/- yr old child, early 80's as a student at UNL, and the 90's as a proud Husker fan. I can understand having a different point of view if a person had not experienced those things. I know that 0 or 1 loss seasons are going to be extremely rare in the B1G or any conference that has a CCG. And, I am not going to complain if we should backdoor our way into a CCG but I won't be truly happy about it if it comes at the expense of not controlling our own destiny. Our desires as fans mean squat in the grand scheme so I am going to push for excellence and leave the participation ribbon gathering to others.

[74Hunter]

I don't understand how people can say they would rather lose to a highly ranked Michigan team and not make it to the B1G Championship game than have a little help from Iowa in case we drop a game down the stretch...

 

From a recruiting prospective I think it would be huge to play in the B1G Championship game in December so I am for whatever it takes to get to Indianapolis.

 

For all of those who are wanting a return to "glory" I think a step in the right direction would be a Conference Championship in our first year in the B1G even if it is with a 10-2 regular season record. With our schedule how many people would have been thrilled to finish that way?

This. Goodness people, this "backdoor" crap and "return to dominance" is ridiculous. Did we backdoor it last year because we lost later in the year than mizzou? No, thats stupid. And like many big ten fans like to tell us, it's not the nineties any more. This "logic"is what makes us look bad to other fan bases. Saying youd rather stay home if were are six and two, rather than play in the ccg is flat out ignorant, to be kind.