MLB 51 Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 It was clearly a catch. Why didn't we challenge the call? Quote Link to comment
Count 'Bility Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 But in all seriousness, at that point in the game and the situation, I'm sure the coaches did not want to risk losing a timeout unless they were completely sure of an overturn. Chances are it wouldnt have been changed. The whole "possess the ball all the way through" crap did that play in. Quote Link to comment
MLB 51 Posted October 2, 2012 Author Share Posted October 2, 2012 But in all seriousness, at that point in the game and the situation, I'm sure the coaches did not want to risk losing a timeout unless they were completely sure of an overturn. Chances are it wouldnt have been changed. The whole "possess the ball all the way through" crap did that play in. So I get the dead horse on this one. He went up, made the catch, Took a step, and hit the ground. The ground cannot cause a fumble. Legit question. Although, not wanting to possibly waste a time out is a good point. Quote Link to comment
Count 'Bility Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 I thought it was a catch as well, for the same reasons as you. But the overall fact in my eyes is, beins the field ruling was incomplete, that there was not enough to overturn it. I say maybe a 3% chance it wouldve. And yes, I had to bust out the beaten horse, cuz this topic has been in several other threads. I can help it, I'm a smartass. Wait until I figger out this gif thing. Quote Link to comment
sd'sker Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 i think it would have been overturned, but i also think it was too close a call to risk it. i wish they would have, or at least for the commentators to have discussed it a little more. i was curious. Quote Link to comment
MLB 51 Posted October 2, 2012 Author Share Posted October 2, 2012 I thought it was a catch as well, for the same reasons as you. But the overall fact in my eyes is, beins the field ruling was incomplete, that there was not enough to overturn it. I say maybe a 3% chance it wouldve. And yes, I had to bust out the beaten horse, cuz this topic has been in several other threads. I can help it, I'm a smartass. Wait until I figger out this gif thing. I wasn't sure if it had been talked about. Just thought I would see what others had to say. Carry on. Quote Link to comment
Mavric Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 But in all seriousness, at that point in the game and the situation, I'm sure the coaches did not want to risk losing a timeout unless they were completely sure of an overturn. Chances are it wouldnt have been changed. The whole "possess the ball all the way through" crap did that play in. So I get the dead horse on this one. He went up, made the catch, Took a step, and hit the ground. The ground cannot cause a fumble. Legit question. Although, not wanting to possibly waste a time out is a good point. True. The ground cannot cause a fumble. It caused an incompletion. Quote Link to comment
whiplash Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 This rule has been in the college game for several years. If a receiver goes to the ground while making a catch, the receiver must maintain control of the ball through the entire process. If the ball comes loose, it is an incomplete pass. This rule was put in place for just these types of circumstances and this same call is made many times every Saturday. There is no reason to review that play when it was clearly incomplete by rule. The rule book gives several examples. This one is probable applies most to the Enunwa incomplete pass: Completed Pass—ARTICLE 6 Approved Ruling 7-3-6 IX. Airborne receiver A85 grasps a forward pass and in the process of going to the ground, first contacts the ground with his left foot as he falls to the ground inbounds. Immediately upon A85 hitting the ground, the ball comes loose and touches the ground. RULING: Incomplete pass. An airborne receiver must maintain control of the ball while going to the ground in the process of completing a catch. You can download the rule book here. Quote Link to comment
zoogs Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 Because he didn't the catch ball! Quote Link to comment
MLB 51 Posted October 2, 2012 Author Share Posted October 2, 2012 This rule has been in the college game for several years. If a receiver goes to the ground while making a catch, the receiver must maintain control of the ball through the entire process. If the ball comes loose, it is an incomplete pass. This rule was put in place for just these types of circumstances and this same call is made many times every Saturday. There is no reason to review that play when it was clearly incomplete by rule. The rule book gives several examples. This one is probable applies most to the Enunwa incomplete pass: Completed Pass—ARTICLE 6 Approved Ruling 7-3-6 IX. Airborne receiver A85 grasps a forward pass and in the process of going to the ground, first contacts the ground with his left foot as he falls to the ground inbounds. Immediately upon A85 hitting the ground, the ball comes loose and touches the ground. RULING: Incomplete pass. An airborne receiver must maintain control of the ball while going to the ground in the process of completing a catch. You can download the rule book here. Thank you, and welcome to the board. I was not aware of that rule. I thought it only applied in the end zone. Quote Link to comment
Mavric Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 Much as we don't like it, it's pretty clear in an example from the NCAA Rule Book: Airborne receiver A85 grasps a forward pass and in the process of goingto the ground, first contacts the ground with his left foot as he falls to the ground inbounds. Immediately upon A85 hitting the ground, the ball comes loose and touches the ground. RULING: Incomplete pass. An airborne receiver must maintain control of the ball while going to the ground in the process of completing a catch. You can argue that he was turning upfield but he didn't really get to run with the ball before hitting the ground. Per the rule book, he had to maintain control all the way to the ground, which he didn't. I'm not a fan of the rule but that's how it is. Quote Link to comment
Mavric Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 This rule has been in the college game for several years. If a receiver goes to the ground while making a catch, the receiver must maintain control of the ball through the entire process. If the ball comes loose, it is an incomplete pass. This rule was put in place for just these types of circumstances and this same call is made many times every Saturday. There is no reason to review that play when it was clearly incomplete by rule. The rule book gives several examples. This one is probable applies most to the Enunwa incomplete pass: Completed Pass—ARTICLE 6 Approved Ruling 7-3-6 IX. Airborne receiver A85 grasps a forward pass and in the process of going to the ground, first contacts the ground with his left foot as he falls to the ground inbounds. Immediately upon A85 hitting the ground, the ball comes loose and touches the ground. RULING: Incomplete pass. An airborne receiver must maintain control of the ball while going to the ground in the process of completing a catch. You can download the rule book here. Beat me to it. Good work. Quote Link to comment
deedsker Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 Also we lost our challenge early in the game on the Montee Ball touchdown. Quote Link to comment
MLB 51 Posted October 2, 2012 Author Share Posted October 2, 2012 Also we lost our challenge early in the game on the Montee Ball touchdown. Thought that was in first half. Quote Link to comment
akita Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 I am not sure where I was during this play! Bath room, fridge or just had my head in my hands. What half did it happen in? Quote Link to comment
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