MichiganDad3 Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 In 2009 NU had the number 1 defense in college football. In 2010, NU had a top 10 defense. In 2011 the defense was mediocre, and now it is terrible. What is the cause? I don't believe the problem is exclusively the players. Suh was great, and NU had some other NFL caliber players, but the drop off should not be that great. How much of the problem is due to scheme, getting out coached, and putting the wrong players on the field. Eight seniors started on defense against Ohio State. Were those seniors really the best athletes at their position, or is Bo rewarding seniors? Giving up 63 points to Ohio State, that was held to 29 by UAB and 17 by Michigan State is unacceptable. Giving up over 600 yards to a bad UCLA team in unacceptable. I just don't know what the cause is. Quote Link to comment
zoogs Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 Suh was a generational talent. I think two things are really hurting us right now: 1) our DL has not been good. They just haven't been holding up their end of the bargain, at all, for two years now. 2) We haven't been able to replace Haggs and Gomes. Those guys were absolutely key for us. Quote Link to comment
sd'sker Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 offenses are changing. we need better talent, simple as that. urb is a hell of a coach with a hell of a team and they are clicking right now. Quote Link to comment
MichiganDad3 Posted October 7, 2012 Author Share Posted October 7, 2012 Do you think Pelini can turn it around? I have lost faith in his ability to coach defense. Talent issues should not carry over for such a long period of time, and there have been too many repeats of the same problems. My opinion, is that Pelini is rewarding seniors. I cannot believe 8 seniors deserve to be starters. I also wonder why Bo doesn't study how teams like MSU shut down running QBs and replicate the schemes. Quote Link to comment
sd'sker Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 i think he had too much confidence in himself and believed he would be able to mold the players he got into the ones he needed. he needs to take recruiting more seriously and get top players, but that is easier said than done. Quote Link to comment
Nhusker23 Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 They just didn't execute. That's all, according to Bo. Quote Link to comment
Marf Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 2009, 2008, 2010, 2011, 2012 Speaking from a scientific viewpoint- our evolution is all sorts of f'd up at this point. About as backasswards as you can get. 1 Quote Link to comment
lo country Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 No SUH, Haag, Gomes, Prince, Fonzie, Super D, Bullocks or SEC talent, IMO, has exposed Bo and his schemes. He seems unable to adjust the scheme to the opponent and our own guys. He has also shown a propensity to play academics over athletes. This is killing us. Look at the current AP and Coaches poll. We should be embarrassed at teams above us. Complete BS. No way those schools have better talent, recruiting or facilities. What they have, on the surface, appears to be better coaching and schemes to fit the players. I keep repeating this, but the Redskins went to RGIII to see what plays he was good with. That is what the Skins are calling. They have a system, but if RGIII doesn't feel comfortable with it, they do not call it. Crazy idea....... Quote Link to comment
MT949597 Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 It all starts up front, our D-Line is bad. Compare us to what LSU and South Carolina's D-Line looks like and that's where we need to get our D-Line to, get to that level and that's where it starts. Then we need to get way more athletic at LB, we need way more speed at LB and get guys that will come up and hit and make game changing plays such as force fumbles. Quote Link to comment
lo country Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 I forgot to add one missing common denominator of Bo in 2003, 2008-1010.......Marvin Sanders. Quote Link to comment
Mars Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 Five years of lazy recruiting has caught up to Pelini. Quote Link to comment
lo country Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 It all starts up front, our D-Line is bad. Compare us to what LSU and South Carolina's D-Line looks like and that's where we need to get our D-Line to, get to that level and that's where it starts. Then we need to get way more athletic at LB, we need way more speed at LB and get guys that will come up and hit and make game changing plays such as force fumbles. Recruit safeties and convert them. Give them a Red Shirt year to learn and bulk up and then turn them loose ala Super D in 2003. The whole BS about the B1G being the league of the 3 yrds in a cloud of dust is stupid. Look at the bowl records. Against speedier smaller teams the B1G sux. Us included. Speed, ability to tackle and then worry about size. Look at David here and in the NFL. Hell look at NU prior to recruiting speed on D. teams were killing us in the bowls. IIRC TO dropped 8 straight before we went after speed on D. Quote Link to comment
JTrain Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 I asked this after the UCLA game and never got an answer: What is the playcalling process on defense? Bo, Pap, collaboration, or something else? Does anyone know? Quote Link to comment
Jskers95 Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 I think Pap calls most of the plays on defense. Quote Link to comment
TripleOption Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 I have to agree that Do you think Pelini can turn it around? I have lost faith in his ability to coach defense. Talent issues should not carry over for such a long period of time, and there have been too many repeats of the same problems. My opinion, is that Pelini is rewarding seniors. I cannot believe 8 seniors deserve to be starters. I also wonder why Bo doesn't study how teams like MSU shut down running QBs and replicate the schemes. This. I'm really unsure that Bo is going to be able to turn around the defense. I keep hoping that his focus is elsewhere somehow, but I can't really believe this. And if he has been focused on the D and this is the result, I just don't know what to think anymore. Quote Link to comment
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