gobiggergoredder Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 kinda ridiculous if you ask me. link Quote Link to comment
gobiggergoredder Posted November 21, 2012 Author Share Posted November 21, 2012 Meant to put in 'other sports'. Mods please move. Quote Link to comment
Landlord Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 I remember reading about Grinnell College a few years ago. Their offensive system is certainly interesting...I'd love to see if it could work at a higher level of competition. Completely shatters any paradigms and conventional thinking as far as basketball philosophy. Quote Link to comment
zoogs Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 Yeah, here's the system explained: http://sports.yahoo.com/news/the-system-behind-jack-taylor-s-historic-138-point-game-21591709-181125848.html • The first shot is the best shot, no matter if it's from 5 feet or 25 feet, preferably 25 feet. • Take as many 3-pointers as possible. • Defensively, giving up an uncontested layup is better than forcing a shot-clock violation. • The ball-handler is double-teamed at all times. The result is a frenetic, full-court attack that leaves the Grinnell players spent after a minute of action, at which point all five are subbed out and five new ones enter, kind of like in hockey. As I explained in a story for The Morning Call a few years back, Arseneault's philosophy is thus: Pressure defense creates turnovers; turnovers create more offensive possessions and, by extension, more shot opportunities. Offensively, 3-pointers pay more than 2-pointers, so launch as many treys as possible. While you might miss more threes than your opponent makes in twos, the difference will be made up by taking more shots overall. Very interesting and pragmatically results-focused. I'd love to see an NBA team try it. Why play defense? If you can shoot at a certain %, and I'm sure these NBA teams can, then let the opposing teams try to outscore you. Get a buncha accurate 3-pt shooters and feed them the ball. Quote Link to comment
Husker no ka oi Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 Basically it's the Jerry Kelly FB version for basketball Quote Link to comment
Coqui Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 Yeah, here's the system explained: http://sports.yahoo....-181125848.html • The first shot is the best shot, no matter if it's from 5 feet or 25 feet, preferably 25 feet. • Take as many 3-pointers as possible. • Defensively, giving up an uncontested layup is better than forcing a shot-clock violation. • The ball-handler is double-teamed at all times. The result is a frenetic, full-court attack that leaves the Grinnell players spent after a minute of action, at which point all five are subbed out and five new ones enter, kind of like in hockey. As I explained in a story for The Morning Call a few years back, Arseneault's philosophy is thus: Pressure defense creates turnovers; turnovers create more offensive possessions and, by extension, more shot opportunities. Offensively, 3-pointers pay more than 2-pointers, so launch as many treys as possible. While you might miss more threes than your opponent makes in twos, the difference will be made up by taking more shots overall. Very interesting and pragmatically results-focused. I'd love to see an NBA team try it. Why play defense? If you can shoot at a certain %, and I'm sure these NBA teams can, then let the opposing teams try to outscore you. Get a buncha accurate 3-pt shooters and feed them the ball. Won't work. As soon as they play against teams with a pulse, they'd lose. They basically allowed the other team to get free shots so they could just score again. Quote Link to comment
HuskerShark Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 Yeah, here's the system explained: http://sports.yahoo.com/news/the-system-behind-jack-taylor-s-historic-138-point-game-21591709-181125848.html • The first shot is the best shot, no matter if it's from 5 feet or 25 feet, preferably 25 feet. • Take as many 3-pointers as possible. • Defensively, giving up an uncontested layup is better than forcing a shot-clock violation. • The ball-handler is double-teamed at all times. The result is a frenetic, full-court attack that leaves the Grinnell players spent after a minute of action, at which point all five are subbed out and five new ones enter, kind of like in hockey. As I explained in a story for The Morning Call a few years back, Arseneault's philosophy is thus: Pressure defense creates turnovers; turnovers create more offensive possessions and, by extension, more shot opportunities. Offensively, 3-pointers pay more than 2-pointers, so launch as many treys as possible. While you might miss more threes than your opponent makes in twos, the difference will be made up by taking more shots overall. Very interesting and pragmatically results-focused. I'd love to see an NBA team try it. Why play defense? If you can shoot at a certain %, and I'm sure these NBA teams can, then let the opposing teams try to outscore you. Get a buncha accurate 3-pt shooters and feed them the ball. No way in hell is giving up an uncontested layup better than forcing a shot clock violation... That's gotta be the stupidest sh#t I've ever heard. Quote Link to comment
Ratt Mhule Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 Yeah, here's the system explained: http://sports.yahoo....-181125848.html • The first shot is the best shot, no matter if it's from 5 feet or 25 feet, preferably 25 feet. • Take as many 3-pointers as possible. • Defensively, giving up an uncontested layup is better than forcing a shot-clock violation. • The ball-handler is double-teamed at all times. The result is a frenetic, full-court attack that leaves the Grinnell players spent after a minute of action, at which point all five are subbed out and five new ones enter, kind of like in hockey. As I explained in a story for The Morning Call a few years back, Arseneault's philosophy is thus: Pressure defense creates turnovers; turnovers create more offensive possessions and, by extension, more shot opportunities. Offensively, 3-pointers pay more than 2-pointers, so launch as many treys as possible. While you might miss more threes than your opponent makes in twos, the difference will be made up by taking more shots overall. Very interesting and pragmatically results-focused. I'd love to see an NBA team try it. Why play defense? If you can shoot at a certain %, and I'm sure these NBA teams can, then let the opposing teams try to outscore you. Get a buncha accurate 3-pt shooters and feed them the ball. No way in hell is giving up an uncontested layup better than forcing a shot clock violation... That's gotta be the stupidest sh#t I've ever heard. Read the article and you will understand why he does these things. Quote Link to comment
HuskerShark Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 Yeah, here's the system explained: http://sports.yahoo....-181125848.html • The first shot is the best shot, no matter if it's from 5 feet or 25 feet, preferably 25 feet. • Take as many 3-pointers as possible. • Defensively, giving up an uncontested layup is better than forcing a shot-clock violation. • The ball-handler is double-teamed at all times. The result is a frenetic, full-court attack that leaves the Grinnell players spent after a minute of action, at which point all five are subbed out and five new ones enter, kind of like in hockey. As I explained in a story for The Morning Call a few years back, Arseneault's philosophy is thus: Pressure defense creates turnovers; turnovers create more offensive possessions and, by extension, more shot opportunities. Offensively, 3-pointers pay more than 2-pointers, so launch as many treys as possible. While you might miss more threes than your opponent makes in twos, the difference will be made up by taking more shots overall. N Very interesting and pragmatically results-focused. I'd love to see an NBA team try it. Why play defense? If you can shoot at a certain %, and I'm sure these NBA teams can, then let the opposing teams try to outscore you. Get a buncha accurate 3-pt shooters and feed them the ball. No way in hell is giving up an uncontested layup better than forcing a shot clock violation... That's gotta be the stupidest sh#t I've ever heard. Read the article and you will understand why he does these things. Just did. For the average person I am sure this is very exciting to watch. Sounds like sloppy, horribly coached basketball to me. Quote Link to comment
TonyStalloni Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 I remember watching Paul Westheads teams in the 90's at Loyola Marymount. It was crazy watching them play his version of the game. It seemed their only goal was to outscore their opponent. I believe he tried using this in the pros but I don't think his players bought into it as much. I can see where college kids would love it. It may not work as well in high school as you aren't guaranteed to have skilled enough players who could play a trapping defense or be able to consistantly make shots. I'll bet the kid from Grinnell had to ice his arm after the game. Quote Link to comment
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