Re-visiting Callahan's 2005 Class

[ColoradoHusk]

 

 

Not sure why we are comparing Bo's star rankings unless you are trying to make the claim that he was a much better recruiter than we have now.

 

2008 = 2.96 2015 = 3.14

2009 = 3.25 2016 = 3.2 (so far)

I added in star rankings because you threw in a comment about star rankings. Bo's classes by star rankings are very similar or even better to what Riley has done the past 2 years. I'm not trying to say one is better than the other, they are actually about the same. But, Bo was a "terrible" recruiter, and people are saying Riley is a "great recruiter".

 

Strange comment while quoting my post.

 

I was comparing Bo's classes as a whole, not just his first 2 years. One of the things Bo struggled at, as a first time head coach, was figuring out how to recruit. That was something Riley was supposed to excel at, because he was a seasoned veteran. As it currently stands, Riley's class this year will look a lot like Bo's classes in the middle of his tenure, and Bo was considered a "bad recruiter" by some.

[Husker Psycho]

As I said on the Newby thread...

 

What Callahan's 2005 recruiting class shows clearly, is that those who have been crying forever that it's somehow more difficult to recruit to Nebraska, are just plain WRONG and they've always been WRONG.

 

Those complaining and crying that it's soooo hard to recruit at Nebraska are just making lame excuses for their own poor performance and trying desperately to escape responsibility for their own poor recruiting.

 

It takes coaches-recruiting coordinators with talent at recruiting... in order to have great athletes come to Nebraska... the exact same thing it takes at every other college. It's just that simple.

 

No more excuses.

[Stumpy1]

As I said on the Newby thread...

 

What Callahan's 2005 recruiting class shows clearly, is that those who have been crying forever that it's somehow more difficult to recruit to Nebraska, are just plain WRONG.

 

Those complaining and crying that it's soooo hard to recruit at Nebraska are just making lame excuses for their own poor performance and trying desperately to escape responsibility for their own poor recruiting.

 

It takes coaches-recruiting coordinators with talent at recruiting... in order to have great athletes come to Nebraska... the exact same thing it takes at every other college. It's just that simple.

 

No more excuses.

And one of the guys responsible for those recruits is no longer coaching because of scandals with an agent. He was also being investigated for possible recruiting violations at 2 different schools.

 

I do agree that we can get top talent to commit but it wont be at the rate of other schools that are in the middle of recruiting hotbeds. I think the 2017 class has the potential to be a once in a decade type of class for us. Lots and lots of potential.

[Husker Psycho]

Stumpy 1 or mods or anybody...

 

 

How do I put a permanent "quote" at the bottom of my comments section like you have in light gray at the bottom of your comment box ?

[GBRedneck]

 

 

 

 

Having over half a recruiting class not contributing much is pretty common.

 

I find this interesting.

 

2005 Average star 3.15 (32 recruits)

2016 Average Star 3.2 (15 recruits) obviously not finished yet.

 

What this basically points out is that in college football, one recruiting class doesn't push you over the edge to greatness. It takes several years of that type of class to do that.

 

But, you have to start somewhere. Let's keep this class rolling and carry that momentum into next year.

Prospects for the current class are looking pretty bleak. We likely need at least 8 more bodies to fill the class, and we are in (really in, not just an offer with low interest) on very few high ranked players. We are currently ranked #31 on 247.

 

Not sure where you are getting that.

 

Here are the players I think we are still in on pretty well.

 

Farniok 4*

Reese 3* (admittedly, I am concerned about his recent trip to Texas)

Fitzpatrick 4*

L. Jackson 4*

Watts 3*

Poljan 3*

I. Simmons 4*

M. Simmons 3*

Those 8 have an average star ranking of 3.5. If we could get these, that would put our average star ranking at 3.3. That's a better pace than our last staff was in their second season. And, we are in on a lot of really good talent right now for the 2017 class.

 

If ifs and buts were candy and nuts, we'd all have a Merry Christmas!

 

So you are wrong and you reply with a stupid comment. Shocking

 

Dude, you listed the highest rated recruits that show any interest in Nebraska whatsoever and then said "If we sign them ALL . . .".

 

If my aunt had balls, she'd be my uncle.

[QMany]

Pretty sure Spain ended up at SWCC.

He didn't have the grades, so came a year late. He was at Mesa College (CC in CA) for some time too. He was at Nebraska for only a year playing special teams before transferring to Baker University (NAIA in KS).

[Stumpy1]

 

 

 

 

 

Having over half a recruiting class not contributing much is pretty common.

 

I find this interesting.

 

2005 Average star 3.15 (32 recruits)

2016 Average Star 3.2 (15 recruits) obviously not finished yet.

 

What this basically points out is that in college football, one recruiting class doesn't push you over the edge to greatness. It takes several years of that type of class to do that.

 

But, you have to start somewhere. Let's keep this class rolling and carry that momentum into next year.

Prospects for the current class are looking pretty bleak. We likely need at least 8 more bodies to fill the class, and we are in (really in, not just an offer with low interest) on very few high ranked players. We are currently ranked #31 on 247.

 

Not sure where you are getting that.

 

Here are the players I think we are still in on pretty well.

 

Farniok 4*

Reese 3* (admittedly, I am concerned about his recent trip to Texas)

Fitzpatrick 4*

L. Jackson 4*

Watts 3*

Poljan 3*

I. Simmons 4*

M. Simmons 3*

Those 8 have an average star ranking of 3.5. If we could get these, that would put our average star ranking at 3.3. That's a better pace than our last staff was in their second season. And, we are in on a lot of really good talent right now for the 2017 class.

 

If ifs and buts were candy and nuts, we'd all have a Merry Christmas!

 

So you are wrong and you reply with a stupid comment. Shocking

 

Dude, you listed the highest rated recruits that show any interest in Nebraska whatsoever and then said "If we sign them ALL . . .".

 

If my aunt had balls, she'd be my uncle.

 

I didn't list any recruits, that was BRB. He listed them because we actually do have a real shot at getting them. We are either the team to beat or are top 2-3 for them.

[teachercd]

This thread was started for one reason...

[Stumpy1]

This thread was started for one reason...

To bring Holiday Spirit and Joy to HB?

[BigRedBuster]

 

 

 

Having over half a recruiting class not contributing much is pretty common.

 

I find this interesting.

 

2005 Average star 3.15 (32 recruits)

2016 Average Star 3.2 (15 recruits) obviously not finished yet.

 

What this basically points out is that in college football, one recruiting class doesn't push you over the edge to greatness. It takes several years of that type of class to do that.

 

But, you have to start somewhere. Let's keep this class rolling and carry that momentum into next year.

Prospects for the current class are looking pretty bleak. We likely need at least 8 more bodies to fill the class, and we are in (really in, not just an offer with low interest) on very few high ranked players. We are currently ranked #31 on 247.

 

Not sure where you are getting that.

 

Here are the players I think we are still in on pretty well.

 

Farniok 4*

Reese 3* (admittedly, I am concerned about his recent trip to Texas)

Fitzpatrick 4*

L. Jackson 4*

Watts 3*

Poljan 3*

I. Simmons 4*

M. Simmons 3*

Those 8 have an average star ranking of 3.5. If we could get these, that would put our average star ranking at 3.3. That's a better pace than our last staff was in their second season. And, we are in on a lot of really good talent right now for the 2017 class.

 

If ifs and buts were candy and nuts, we'd all have a Merry Christmas!

 

You really don't follow recruiting much...do you.

[Husker Psycho]

 

As I said on the Newby thread...

 

What Callahan's 2005 recruiting class shows clearly, is that those who have been crying forever that it's somehow more difficult to recruit to Nebraska, are just plain WRONG.

 

Those complaining and crying that it's soooo hard to recruit at Nebraska are just making lame excuses for their own poor performance and trying desperately to escape responsibility for their own poor recruiting.

 

It takes coaches-recruiting coordinators with talent at recruiting... in order to have great athletes come to Nebraska... the exact same thing it takes at every other college. It's just that simple.

 

No more excuses.

And one of the guys responsible for those recruits is no longer coaching because of scandals with an agent. He was also being investigated for possible recruiting violations at 2 different schools.

 

I do agree that we can get top talent to commit but it wont be at the rate of other schools that are in the middle of recruiting hotbeds. I think the 2017 class has the potential to be a once in a decade type of class for us. Lots and lots of potential.

 

 

 

I've always said that one of the greatest threats or maybe the greatest threat to our program is the mindset... that starts at the very top and has filtered down to some fans... is the mindset that ASSUMES FAILURE.

[GBRedneck]

 

 

 

 

 

 

Having over half a recruiting class not contributing much is pretty common.

 

I find this interesting.

 

2005 Average star 3.15 (32 recruits)

2016 Average Star 3.2 (15 recruits) obviously not finished yet.

 

What this basically points out is that in college football, one recruiting class doesn't push you over the edge to greatness. It takes several years of that type of class to do that.

 

But, you have to start somewhere. Let's keep this class rolling and carry that momentum into next year.

Prospects for the current class are looking pretty bleak. We likely need at least 8 more bodies to fill the class, and we are in (really in, not just an offer with low interest) on very few high ranked players. We are currently ranked #31 on 247.

 

Not sure where you are getting that.

 

Here are the players I think we are still in on pretty well.

 

Farniok 4*

Reese 3* (admittedly, I am concerned about his recent trip to Texas)

Fitzpatrick 4*

L. Jackson 4*

Watts 3*

Poljan 3*

I. Simmons 4*

M. Simmons 3*

Those 8 have an average star ranking of 3.5. If we could get these, that would put our average star ranking at 3.3. That's a better pace than our last staff was in their second season. And, we are in on a lot of really good talent right now for the 2017 class.

 

If ifs and buts were candy and nuts, we'd all have a Merry Christmas!

 

So you are wrong and you reply with a stupid comment. Shocking

 

Dude, you listed the highest rated recruits that show any interest in Nebraska whatsoever and then said "If we sign them ALL . . .".

 

If my aunt had balls, she'd be my uncle.

 

I didn't list any recruits, that was BRB. He listed them because we actually do have a real shot at getting them. We are either the team to beat or are top 2-3 for them.

 

Farniok - in the lead

Reese - We are one of 4 teams listed with equal interest. And our OV was first, with the three others coming more recently.

Fitzpatrick - We are one of 8 teams listed with equal interest. And he's taking an OV to Louisville Jan 29.

Jackson - We are one of 12 teams listed with medium interest.

Watts - One of 5 schools listed with high interest

 

Poljan - One of about 30 schools listed with medium interest, but only 7 have offered.

I. Simmons - One of 5 schools listed with high interest.

M. Simmons - One of 6 schools listed with high interest.

 

So what do you think the odds are of Riley signing all of them?

[Stumpy1]

 

 

As I said on the Newby thread...

 

What Callahan's 2005 recruiting class shows clearly, is that those who have been crying forever that it's somehow more difficult to recruit to Nebraska, are just plain WRONG.

 

Those complaining and crying that it's soooo hard to recruit at Nebraska are just making lame excuses for their own poor performance and trying desperately to escape responsibility for their own poor recruiting.

 

It takes coaches-recruiting coordinators with talent at recruiting... in order to have great athletes come to Nebraska... the exact same thing it takes at every other college. It's just that simple.

 

No more excuses.

And one of the guys responsible for those recruits is no longer coaching because of scandals with an agent. He was also being investigated for possible recruiting violations at 2 different schools.

 

I do agree that we can get top talent to commit but it wont be at the rate of other schools that are in the middle of recruiting hotbeds. I think the 2017 class has the potential to be a once in a decade type of class for us. Lots and lots of potential.

 

 

 

I've always said that one of the greatest threats or maybe the greatest threat to our program is the mindset... that starts at the very top and has filtered down to some fans... is the mindset that ASSUMES FAILURE.

 

It's not a mindset about what I stated, it's just pure fact. Teams that are in the middle of or in close proximity to recruiting hotbeds will almost always have better recruiting classes year in and year out over a team that is distant from one.

[Stumpy1]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Having over half a recruiting class not contributing much is pretty common.

 

I find this interesting.

 

2005 Average star 3.15 (32 recruits)

2016 Average Star 3.2 (15 recruits) obviously not finished yet.

 

What this basically points out is that in college football, one recruiting class doesn't push you over the edge to greatness. It takes several years of that type of class to do that.

 

But, you have to start somewhere. Let's keep this class rolling and carry that momentum into next year.

Prospects for the current class are looking pretty bleak. We likely need at least 8 more bodies to fill the class, and we are in (really in, not just an offer with low interest) on very few high ranked players. We are currently ranked #31 on 247.

 

Not sure where you are getting that.

 

Here are the players I think we are still in on pretty well.

 

Farniok 4*

Reese 3* (admittedly, I am concerned about his recent trip to Texas)

Fitzpatrick 4*

L. Jackson 4*

Watts 3*

Poljan 3*

I. Simmons 4*

M. Simmons 3*

Those 8 have an average star ranking of 3.5. If we could get these, that would put our average star ranking at 3.3. That's a better pace than our last staff was in their second season. And, we are in on a lot of really good talent right now for the 2017 class.

 

If ifs and buts were candy and nuts, we'd all have a Merry Christmas!

 

So you are wrong and you reply with a stupid comment. Shocking

 

Dude, you listed the highest rated recruits that show any interest in Nebraska whatsoever and then said "If we sign them ALL . . .".

 

If my aunt had balls, she'd be my uncle.

 

I didn't list any recruits, that was BRB. He listed them because we actually do have a real shot at getting them. We are either the team to beat or are top 2-3 for them.

 

Farniok - in the lead

Reese - We are one of 4 teams listed with equal interest. And our OV was first, with the three others coming more recently.

Fitzpatrick - We are one of 8 teams listed with equal interest. And he's taking an OV to Louisville Jan 29.

Jackson - We are one of 12 teams listed with medium interest.

Watts - One of 5 schools listed with high interest

 

Poljan - One of about 30 schools listed with medium interest, but only 7 have offered.

I. Simmons - One of 5 schools listed with high interest.

M. Simmons - One of 6 schools listed with high interest.

 

So what do you think the odds are of Riley signing all of them?

 

Actually pretty good. I would say we lead for Farniok, Fitzpatrick and Jackson. Some on other boards have said we also lead for M. Simmons and I. Simmons. The ones I'm skeptical on landing are Reese, Watts and Poljan.

[BigRedBuster]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Having over half a recruiting class not contributing much is pretty common.

 

I find this interesting.

 

2005 Average star 3.15 (32 recruits)

2016 Average Star 3.2 (15 recruits) obviously not finished yet.

 

What this basically points out is that in college football, one recruiting class doesn't push you over the edge to greatness. It takes several years of that type of class to do that.

 

But, you have to start somewhere. Let's keep this class rolling and carry that momentum into next year.

Prospects for the current class are looking pretty bleak. We likely need at least 8 more bodies to fill the class, and we are in (really in, not just an offer with low interest) on very few high ranked players. We are currently ranked #31 on 247.

 

Not sure where you are getting that.

 

Here are the players I think we are still in on pretty well.

 

Farniok 4*

Reese 3* (admittedly, I am concerned about his recent trip to Texas)

Fitzpatrick 4*

L. Jackson 4*

Watts 3*

Poljan 3*

I. Simmons 4*

M. Simmons 3*

Those 8 have an average star ranking of 3.5. If we could get these, that would put our average star ranking at 3.3. That's a better pace than our last staff was in their second season. And, we are in on a lot of really good talent right now for the 2017 class.

 

If ifs and buts were candy and nuts, we'd all have a Merry Christmas!

 

So you are wrong and you reply with a stupid comment. Shocking

 

Dude, you listed the highest rated recruits that show any interest in Nebraska whatsoever and then said "If we sign them ALL . . .".

 

If my aunt had balls, she'd be my uncle.

 

I didn't list any recruits, that was BRB. He listed them because we actually do have a real shot at getting them. We are either the team to beat or are top 2-3 for them.

 

Farniok - in the lead

Reese - We are one of 4 teams listed with equal interest. And our OV was first, with the three others coming more recently.

Fitzpatrick - We are one of 8 teams listed with equal interest. And he's taking an OV to Louisville Jan 29.

Jackson - We are one of 12 teams listed with medium interest.

Watts - One of 5 schools listed with high interest

 

Poljan - One of about 30 schools listed with medium interest, but only 7 have offered.

I. Simmons - One of 5 schools listed with high interest.

M. Simmons - One of 6 schools listed with high interest.

 

So what do you think the odds are of Riley signing all of them?

 

I will absolutely say we will not get all of these but, I think we have a good shot at getting many of them. Just not sure which ones. I never said we would. I said if we "could" get them. Big difference. You, on the other hand, stated that we are in on very few highly rated players. I listed the ones we have a chance at getting. It's clear why you didn't like my list since it didn't follow your agenda.

 

Crystal Balls for Nebraska

 

Farniok - 78%

Reese - 18%

Fitzpatrick - 50% (I'm very surprised that's not higher)

Poljan - 78%

M Simmons - 100%

Jackson - Balls still say 100% USC. however, there haven't been any more predictions since August. I have read things that make me think he isn't as 100% of them as it says.

Butler - 48% (3* that wasn't on my previous list)

I. Simmons - Balls still say 100% Kansas but nothing has been posted since August. Looks to me like he is down to us or Louisville.