Wordek Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 We are ranked 23 in current recruit talent on the team based off their recruiting rankings. 5 Stars: 0 4 Stars: 21 3 Stars: 54 Michigan State who is playing in the CFP is one spot ahead of us at 23. Iowa is 52. http://247sports.com/Season/2015-Football/CollegeTeamTalentComposite Quote Link to comment
cm husker Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 Not bad. 23rd is really in the Tier 2 of talent, which I think ranges from around 12 or 16 to 35 or 40 during a given year. The key for Nebraska will be remaining toward the top 1/3 of tier 2 team talent and getting top 15 results out of that talent (i.e., coaching them up a tier.. which you see a lot of great coaches do (e.g., Baylor)). Quote Link to comment
Red_October Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 The stars may lie but the numbers never do.....Many of Bo's stars never made it the field. Quote Link to comment
GBRedneck Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 The stars may lie but the numbers never do.....Many of Bo's stars never made it the field. The OP is only referencing players currently on the roster. BTW, where's the link to this info? Quote Link to comment
cm husker Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 The stars may lie but the numbers never do.....Many of Bo's stars never made it the field. The ranking is based on the current roster and accounts for kids who have left. I would bet the running average at signing day during the past 5 years was around 20-25, so this would indicate that NU's attrition was no worse than most schools (though not better either). Would be nice to see a comparison of signing day rankings against these "team composite rankings" as of the end of a regular season. Wonder, for example, where a team like Iowa may fall (low on the signing day list, but maybe they have retained more of their players than others... then again, they started more walkons than NU did this year, so maybe not). Quote Link to comment
Saunders Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 The stars may lie but the numbers never do.....Many of Bo's stars never made it the field. The OP is only referencing players currently on the roster. BTW, where's the link to this info? http://247sports.com/Season/2015-Football/CollegeTeamTalentComposite Quote Link to comment
cm husker Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 The stars may lie but the numbers never do.....Many of Bo's stars never made it the field. The OP is only referencing players currently on the roster. BTW, where's the link to this info? http://247sports.com/Season/2015-Football/CollegeTeamTalentComposite Surprised to see Navy at 123... Quote Link to comment
GBRedneck Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 The stars may lie but the numbers never do.....Many of Bo's stars never made it the field. The OP is only referencing players currently on the roster. BTW, where's the link to this info? http://247sports.com/Season/2015-Football/CollegeTeamTalentComposite Surprised to see Navy at 123... Aren't they ranked about #20 in the AP poll currently? How DO they do it??? Junior astronomers need to know. Quote Link to comment
GBRFAN Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 We are ranked 23 in current recruit talent on the team based off their recruiting rankings. 5 Stars: 0 4 Stars: 21 3 Stars: 54 Michigan State who is playing in the CFP is one spot ahead of us at 23. Iowa is 52. http://247sports.com/Season/2015-Football/CollegeTeamTalentComposite Interesting numbers!!! Two things that come to my mind that could be used to adjust this ranking: 1) upper classman VS under classman - a 4* senior lineman would be a lot more valuable than a 4* freshman lineman 2) having 6 3* players in one position group and then having 4/6 4* players in another position group wouldn't be as good as having your 4* spread out across the team. I think this could be said about our team - we have most of our line talent as underclassman(exception Collins) and we have a couple position groups that aren't balanced between 3* / 4* Quote Link to comment
hskrfan4life Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 The stars may lie but the numbers never do.....Many of Bo's stars never made it the field. The OP is only referencing players currently on the roster. BTW, where's the link to this info? http://247sports.com/Season/2015-Football/CollegeTeamTalentComposite Surprised to see Navy at 123... Aren't they ranked about #20 in the AP poll currently? How DO they do it??? Junior astronomers need to know. Navy doesn't change their program. They run the ball. And they get some good players. 1 Quote Link to comment
B.B. Hemingway Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 Well those numbers aren't terrible, and Riley was hired with the belief that he was an elite coach in talent development, so we should be encouraged by the future, no? Quote Link to comment
junior4949 Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 We are ranked 23 in current recruit talent on the team based off their recruiting rankings. 5 Stars: 0 4 Stars: 21 3 Stars: 54 Michigan State who is playing in the CFP is one spot ahead of us at 23. Iowa is 52. http://247sports.com/Season/2015-Football/CollegeTeamTalentComposite Interesting numbers!!! Two things that come to my mind that could be used to adjust this ranking: 1) upper classman VS under classman - a 4* senior lineman would be a lot more valuable than a 4* freshman lineman 2) having 6 3* players in one position group and then having 4/6 4* players in another position group wouldn't be as good as having your 4* spread out across the team. I think this could be said about our team - we have most of our line talent as underclassman(exception Collins) and we have a couple position groups that aren't balanced between 3* / 4* This pretty much sums up our problem. Of course we have some good/great talent. However, a lot of that talent is loaded up in just a couple different position groups. Some of our recruiting especially at RB, QB, and WR over the past several years has been baffling while almost ignoring other position groups. Quote Link to comment
cm husker Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 I wonder where this ranks compared to last year. Just googling, it looks like this may be the first year that they compiled a list like this. I really think we fired Bo too soon... the staff from 2014 would have had a great opportunity to go 10-2 or better against the schedule this year, especially with the experienced talent that came back. Quote Link to comment
cm husker Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 We are ranked 23 in current recruit talent on the team based off their recruiting rankings. 5 Stars: 0 4 Stars: 21 3 Stars: 54 Michigan State who is playing in the CFP is one spot ahead of us at 23. Iowa is 52. http://247sports.com/Season/2015-Football/CollegeTeamTalentComposite Interesting numbers!!! Two things that come to my mind that could be used to adjust this ranking: 1) upper classman VS under classman - a 4* senior lineman would be a lot more valuable than a 4* freshman lineman 2) having 6 3* players in one position group and then having 4/6 4* players in another position group wouldn't be as good as having your 4* spread out across the team. I think this could be said about our team - we have most of our line talent as underclassman(exception Collins) and we have a couple position groups that aren't balanced between 3* / 4* This pretty much sums up our problem. Of course we have some good/great talent. However, a lot of that talent is loaded up in just a couple different position groups. Some of our recruiting especially at RB, QB, and WR over the past several years has been baffling while almost ignoring other position groups. Out of curiosity, which recruits were taken at those positions that shouldn't have been? It's also worth noting that recruiting isn't like grocery shopping. You don't get to necessarily make a list and pick up the exact number of prospects at each position that you intend to. There have been recruiting misses under every staff, but other than over-recruiting of JUCOs under Callahan, I don't think there's much evidence of massive roster mismanagement. Not when you compare the NU roster to all other rosters in the B10 and against top 30 rosters. 1 Quote Link to comment
Wordek Posted December 23, 2015 Author Share Posted December 23, 2015 I wonder where this ranks compared to last year. Just googling, it looks like this may be the first year that they compiled a list like this. I really think we fired Bo too soon... the staff from 2014 would have had a great opportunity to go 10-2 or better against the schedule this year, especially with the experienced talent that came back. 10-2 seems a little optimistic. Quote Link to comment
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