Black Lives Matter Coalition Makes Demands as Campaign Heats Up.

[huskerfan2000]

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/02/us/politics/black-lives-matter-campaign.html?_r=1

 

 

 

More than 60 organizations associated with the Black Lives Matter movement have released a series of demands on Monday, including for reparations.

The list of six platform demands is aimed at furthering their goals as the presidential campaign heads into the homestretch.

The release of the six demands comes a few days before the second anniversary of the shooting of Michael Brown in Ferguson, Mo., which set off months of protests and led to a national conversation about police killings of blacks.

As part of the effort, the groups are demanding, among other things, reparations for what they say are past and continuing harms to African-Americans, an end to the death penalty, legislation to acknowledge the effects of slavery, as well as investments in education initiatives, mental health services and jobs programs.

 

 

just in case anyone forgot what Brown was really like, as opposed to the kind and wonderful human being, as he was portrayed in the media.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8nguoNxwycc

[Landlord]

Seems reasonable and well-organized. Good for them. I especially appreciate this quote:

 

 

 

“We seek radical transformation, not reactionary reform,” Michaela Brown, communications director of Baltimore Bloc, another participating group, said in a statement. “As the 2016 election continues, this platform provides us with a way to intervene with an agenda that resists state and corporate power, an opportunity to implement policies that truly value the safety and humanity of black lives, and an overall means to hold elected leaders accountable.”

[NM11046]

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/02/us/politics/black-lives-matter-campaign.html?_r=1

 

 

 

More than 60 organizations associated with the Black Lives Matter movement have released a series of demands on Monday, including for reparations.

The list of six platform demands is aimed at furthering their goals as the presidential campaign heads into the homestretch.

The release of the six demands comes a few days before the second anniversary of the shooting of Michael Brown in Ferguson, Mo., which set off months of protests and led to a national conversation about police killings of blacks.

As part of the effort, the groups are demanding, among other things, reparations for what they say are past and continuing harms to African-Americans, an end to the death penalty, legislation to acknowledge the effects of slavery, as well as investments in education initiatives, mental health services and jobs programs.

 

 

just in case anyone forgot what Brown was really like, as opposed to the kind and wonderful human being, as he was portrayed in the media.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8nguoNxwycc

So to be clear huskerfan2000, because he had a shady past you feel he deserved to be killed by those who are sworn to protect the public?

[zoogs]

Good for them. Really.

[huskerenner]

 

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/02/us/politics/black-lives-matter-campaign.html?_r=1

 

 

 

More than 60 organizations associated with the Black Lives Matter movement have released a series of demands on Monday, including for reparations.

The list of six platform demands is aimed at furthering their goals as the presidential campaign heads into the homestretch.

The release of the six demands comes a few days before the second anniversary of the shooting of Michael Brown in Ferguson, Mo., which set off months of protests and led to a national conversation about police killings of blacks.

As part of the effort, the groups are demanding, among other things, reparations for what they say are past and continuing harms to African-Americans, an end to the death penalty, legislation to acknowledge the effects of slavery, as well as investments in education initiatives, mental health services and jobs programs.

 

 

just in case anyone forgot what Brown was really like, as opposed to the kind and wonderful human being, as he was portrayed in the media.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8nguoNxwycc

So to be clear huskerfan2000, because he had a shady past you feel he deserved to be killed by those who are sworn to protect the public?

 

Looks to me like the cops took out the trash!Beating up an old man.And it took more than one of them? Good riddance!

[Guy Chamberlin]

I was just back in Nebraska, hanging out with some old buddies, many if not most Trump supporters who denigrate anything BLM adjacent.

 

They're basically good dudes. We've all gone on to reasonably successful lives. Some served in the Marines. Some have held public office. School administrators, small businessmen, a chiropractor, regional sales director, etc. Most of them are regular church-goers these days.

 

But man....some of the crazy sh#t we used to do! That brought back lots of laughter and memories.

 

The time we broke into this. The time we vandalized that. The time we intervened on behalf of a drunken friend arguing with the Lincoln cops. Crazy driving. Drug use. Drug dealing. All that trespassing and petty theft that we passed off as "hijinks" because we were young and bored and nobody got hurt. Or caught. Or if we did get caught, we always managed to talk our way out of it in that middle-class, well-educated way.

 

So I asked them to imagine us doing all that crazy, memorable stuff from our youth, except we were black.

 

We wouldn't be looking back and laughing. We would have been dead or in jail years ago.

 

That's the part a lot of folks seem to be missing.

[Apathy]

 

 

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/02/us/politics/black-lives-matter-campaign.html?_r=1

 

 

 

More than 60 organizations associated with the Black Lives Matter movement have released a series of demands on Monday, including for reparations.

The list of six platform demands is aimed at furthering their goals as the presidential campaign heads into the homestretch.

The release of the six demands comes a few days before the second anniversary of the shooting of Michael Brown in Ferguson, Mo., which set off months of protests and led to a national conversation about police killings of blacks.

As part of the effort, the groups are demanding, among other things, reparations for what they say are past and continuing harms to African-Americans, an end to the death penalty, legislation to acknowledge the effects of slavery, as well as investments in education initiatives, mental health services and jobs programs.

 

just in case anyone forgot what Brown was really like, as opposed to the kind and wonderful human being, as he was portrayed in the media.

 

So to be clear huskerfan2000, because he had a shady past you feel he deserved to be killed by those who are sworn to protect the public?

You're talking about that Brown fella who came back to the officers vehicle in an aggressive manner and attacked the officer inside his vehicle right?

 

That whole "Hands up don't shoot" was nothing but a lie as the facts and evidence proved it to be

[JJ Husker]

As far as the 6 demands in the snippet in the OP, I find it a little misguided that the seemingly most important ones are the last 3 listed and, as far as I'm concerned, they should forget about the first 3 if they want wider acceptance for their movement. Reparations, an end to the death penalty, and legislation to acknowledge the effects of slavery....give me a break. Pretty sure everyone who is ever going to, already understands the effects of slavery and legislation to that effect would just be time wasted that could be spent doing something valuable. Don't want to get into a debate about the death penalty but, if you don't commit a crime that has that as the possible penalty, it shouldn't be a problem. And reparations for past harms....Ummmm, how about No, my eyes already started to glaze over.

 

I'm not sure how mental health services apply specifically to black people but I'm in full support of jobs programs and educational initiatives. Heck, throw out those first 3 demands and quit rioting in the streets and I may even join up.

[Landlord]

That whole "Hands up don't shoot" was nothing but a lie as the facts and evidence proved it to be

 

Yet the Justice Department still investigated the Ferguson police department and found awful, horrific systemic racism, which is what the protests were really about, using Mike Brown (erroneously, it seems) as a symbol.

 

 

 

 

Pretty sure everyone who is ever going to, already understands the effects of slavery and legislation to that effect would just be time wasted that could be spent doing something valuable.

 

The effects of slavery are still felt today. You really think everyone realizes that?

 

 

 

Don't want to get into a debate about the death penalty but, if you don't commit a crime that has that as the possible penalty, it shouldn't be a problem.

 

It shouldn't be, but it is. 1 in 25 people sentenced to death is innocent, and like most of these things, blacks are disproportionately represented in death row.

[Guy Chamberlin]

Yeah, Justice Scalia used to use the 1994 Henry Lee McCollum rape and murder of an 11 year old girl as the perfect demonstration of Capitol Punishment.

 

At least Scalia lived to see McCollum pardoned when DNA evidence proved him innocent --- after three decades in prison.

[Apathy]

 

 

That whole "Hands up don't shoot" was nothing but a lie as the facts and evidence proved it to be

Yet the Justice Department still investigated the Ferguson police department and found awful, horrific systemic racism, which is what the protests were really about, using Mike Brown (erroneously, it seems) as a symbol.

No it wasn't. It all began from a report of a suppose witness who said he saw Brown put his hands up several feet in front of the officers vehicle and was gunned down. The news spread like wildfire and the BLM movement pounced on it along with news outlets like CNN, Fox News, etc.

 

Remember when the St. Louis Rams football players demonstrating this very act entering the stadium during their entrance?

[Landlord]

 

 

That whole "Hands up don't shoot" was nothing but a lie as the facts and evidence proved it to be

Yet the Justice Department still investigated the Ferguson police department and found awful, horrific systemic racism, which is what the protests were really about, using Mike Brown (erroneously, it seems) as a symbol.

No it wasn't. It all began from a report of a suppose witness who said he saw Brown put his hands up several feet in front of the officers vehicle and was gunned down. The news spread like wildfire and the BLM movement pounced on it along with news outlets like CNN, Fox News, etc.

 

Remember when the St. Louis Rams football players demonstrating this very act entering the stadium during their entrance?

 

 

 

Yes. Here's what I'm saying.

 

 

Were the Rams and the protestors and everyone involved that upset over a teenage boy that they didn't know dying?

 

Or were they that upset over what that teenage boy dying represented to them in the form of systemic racial bias on behalf of law enforcement?

 

Which one were they speaking out about, and which one ended up being real?

[huskerfan2000]

lol, I love the apologists in this thread!

[huskerfan2000]

 

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/02/us/politics/black-lives-matter-campaign.html?_r=1

 

 

 

More than 60 organizations associated with the Black Lives Matter movement have released a series of demands on Monday, including for reparations.

The list of six platform demands is aimed at furthering their goals as the presidential campaign heads into the homestretch.

The release of the six demands comes a few days before the second anniversary of the shooting of Michael Brown in Ferguson, Mo., which set off months of protests and led to a national conversation about police killings of blacks.

As part of the effort, the groups are demanding, among other things, reparations for what they say are past and continuing harms to African-Americans, an end to the death penalty, legislation to acknowledge the effects of slavery, as well as investments in education initiatives, mental health services and jobs programs.

 

 

just in case anyone forgot what Brown was really like, as opposed to the kind and wonderful human being, as he was portrayed in the media.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8nguoNxwycc

So to be clear huskerfan2000, because he had a shady past you feel he deserved to be killed by those who are sworn to protect the public?

 

 

How the hell did you draw that parallel, no seriously, how the hell?

[JJ Husker]

 

Pretty sure everyone who is ever going to, already understands the effects of slavery and legislation to that effect would just be time wasted that could be spent doing something valuable.

 

The effects of slavery are still felt today. You really think everyone realizes that?

 

 

 

Don't want to get into a debate about the death penalty but, if you don't commit a crime that has that as the possible penalty, it shouldn't be a problem.

 

It shouldn't be, but it is. 1 in 25 people sentenced to death is innocent, and like most of these things, blacks are disproportionately represented in death row.

You didn't comprehend what I said.

No, not everyone realizes it... But, the ones who don't never will and legislation sure isn't going to help.

 

And like I said, I don't want to get into a debate about the death penalty. I have no idea if your 1 in 25 innocent is correct or not, but it seems to me a better focus would be for improving that percentage from 96% to about 99.9%. The fault is not with the penalty but rather the application of it. Sorry but some people, through their own actions and no fault of the system, have earned the privilege of having society remove the air from their lungs, IMO. It's terrible that any innocent person ever gets jailed or killed but it's not the penalty that is at fault. Fix the real problem.