jaws Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 It looks like if OSU wins it will get two SEC teams into the playoffs. Quote Link to comment
Excel Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 (edited) ...and now that sinking feeling of unease I've had all season has finally crystallized. I'm glad Ohio State beat Michigan even though I usually pull for the Wolverines in the Game....you don't want your team to have to face mad-Ohio State. ESPN's little FPI predictor has Ohio State by 66% but I don't know. It will depend on how many interceptions Hornibrook decides to throw and which Ohio State shows up. I don't think we've played a QB like Barrett in a while, he has me worried, hopefully whatever freak camera-injury he had will have him tweaked weird for the game, no offense jaws. Edited November 26, 2017 by Excel Quote Link to comment
Excel Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 (edited) 11 minutes ago, jaws said: It looks like if OSU wins it will get two SEC teams into the playoffs. ...yea you can feel the argument coming already. Alabama and Auburn/UGA. ESPN and Heather Dinich will lobby for it hard. I'm cool with their champ making it but Bama needs to stay home, Ohio State's precedent from last year be damned. At least Ohio State played and beat tough teams last year. Alabama's resume this year is weak. Edited November 26, 2017 by Excel Quote Link to comment
jaws Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 I guess JT has been hurt most of the year and that sideline thing (I wished they would have shut up about it after the game) tweaked it. I don't know if Wisconsin really wants to go up against Haskins in this game either. He can really sling the ball but his read on the read option isn't good. Wisconsin is a good team so it should be a good game. It is hard for me to believe they will keep Bama out of the playoffs. They haven't really played anyone and they haven't looked good to end the season. Quote Link to comment
Excel Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 6 minutes ago, jaws said: I guess JT has been hurt most of the year and that sideline thing (I wished they would have shut up about it after the game) tweaked it. I don't know if Wisconsin really wants to go up against Haskins in this game either. He can really sling the ball but his read on the read option isn't good. Wisconsin is a good team so it should be a good game. It is hard for me to believe they will keep Bama out of the playoffs. They haven't really played anyone and they haven't looked good to end the season. Yep, Haskins was very impressive today, I learned to respect OSU's backups after our last meeting in the B1G CG. Minnesota's Croft was the most mobile QB we've played this year and while that went well he's not on the level of either Haskins or Barrett. I do not have a good feeling about this game and I won't until Chryst proves he can beat a truly good blue-chip team for a signature win. I thought he had it with LSU but that team didn't pan out, Michigan and Nebraska have both been down so they don't count. Hopefully this is it. Quote Link to comment
Moiraine Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 (edited) If they keep the undefeated big 10 champ out of the playoffs, the playoffs will be expanding to 6/8 teams soon. I don't think they will do that even though Alabama is better than Wisconsin. The committee considers going undefeated to be an important factor. They also consider being a conference champ to being an important factor. Ohio State got in last year with neither of those but not in place of an undefeated P5 team. Assuming no upsets, that leaves them the option of leaving Clemson or Oklahoma out. I can't see them leaving out the defending champ. So it's Alabama vs. Oklahoma for the last spot, imo. Oklahoma's only loss is to Ohio State and they will have won their conference. I think they leave out Alabama. Edited November 26, 2017 by Moiraine Quote Link to comment
Excel Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Moiraine said: If they keep the undefeated big 10 champ out of the playoffs, the playoffs will be expanding to 6/8 teams soon. I can't bring myself to believe they'd dare snub the Big Ten like that, especially with Ohio State's AD on the committee and Barry Alvarez probably still retaining significant influence. The real question is what happens to Ohio State if they beat Wisconsin, and Oklahoma beats TCU. Then you'll have: - 1 loss ACC champ who has a win over Clemson/Miami - 1 loss Oklahoma -1 loss Alabama - Either 2 loss Auburn with three powerful wins late in the season or a 1 loss UGA Does OSU get left out in this scenario? They shouldn't be, they're a conference chanp, but I would imagine they do...and to me this is likely to happen. You're right about expanding the playoffs, they should look at a 6-8 team bracket with auto bids for P5 champs and 1-3 at-large bids....but that would kind of suck because it would make the regular season mean less. Edited November 26, 2017 by Excel Quote Link to comment
Moiraine Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 The closest scenario to that would be PSU not getting into the playoff last season. I think OSU would get left out and you'd have 2 SEC teams. Let's hope that doesn't happen. Quote Link to comment
Excel Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 Just for kicks here is what the committee looks like as far as potential biases. I highlighted any problematic areas I could find. Several Miami and Clemson connections that people didn't recuse themselves from, maybe it could impact things. Kirby Hocutt - Chariman FOCUS: None CURRENT JOB: Texas Tech AD aka the guy dumb enough to hire Kingsbury FROM: Texas PLAYED: Kansas State COACHED AT/PREVIOUS JOBS: Ohio, Miami (FL) OFFICIAL RECUSAL: Texas Tech Tyrone Willingham FOCUS: ACC, AAC CURRENT JOB: Retired HC FROM: North Carolina PLAYED: Michigan State COACHED AT/PREVIOUS JOBS: Michigan State, Stanford, Notre Dame, and Washington OFFICIAL RECUSAL: Duke, Stanford Gene Smith FOCUS: Sun Belt, Independents CURRENT JOB: Ohio State AD FROM: Ohio PLAYED: Notre Dame COACHED AT/PREVIOUS JOBS: Arizona State, Iowa State OFFICIAL RECUSAL: Ohio State Steve Wieberg FOCUS: ACC, Mountain West CURRENT JOB: Retired Journalist FROM: Missouri? STUDIED: Missouri COACHED AT/PREVIOUS JOBS: Basketball Journalist OFFICIAL RECUSAL: None Dan Radakovich FOCUS: Big XII CURRENT JOB: Clemson AD FROM: Pennsylvania PLAYED: Indiana University of Pennsylvania COACHED AT/PREVIOUS JOBS: Georgia Tech, LSU, South Carolina, Miami OFFICIAL RECUSAL: Clemson Rob Mullens FOCUS: Mountain West, Big Ten CURRENT JOB: Oregon AD FROM: West Virginia STUDIED: Miami (FL) COACHED AT/PREVIOUS JOBS: Maryland, Kentucky OFFICIAL RECUSAL: Oregon Jeff Long FOCUS: Pac 12 CURRENT JOB: Unemployed AD (formerly of Arkansas) FROM: Ohio PLAYED: Ohio Wesleyan University COACHED AT/PREVIOUS JOBS: Arkansas, Pittsburgh, Michigan, Oklahoma, Virginia Tech OFFICIAL RECUSAL: Arkansas, Missouri Bobby Johnson FOCUS: SEC, Independents CURRENT JOB: Retired HC FROM: South Carolina PLAYED: Clemson COACHED AT/PREVIOUS JOBS: Clemson, Vanderbilt OFFICIAL RECUSAL: None declared Tom Jernstedt FOCUS: Big Ten, Sun Belt CURRENT JOB: Retired FROM: Oregon PLAYED: Oregon COACHED AT/PREVIOUS JOBS: Former NCAA executive, instrumental in NCAA Basketball Tournament development OFFICIAL RECUSAL: None Christopher B. Howard FOCUS: C-USA, AAC CURRENT JOB: University President FROM: Texas PLAYED: Air Force COACHED AT/PREVIOUS JOBS: Unrelated corporate or charitable endeavors, Oklahoma OFFICIAL RECUSAL: None Herb Deromedi FOCUS: C-USA, SEC CURRENT JOB: Retired HC and Adminisrator FROM: Michigan PLAYED: Michigan COACHED AT/PREVIOUS JOBS: Central Michigan OFFICIAL RECUSAL: Central Michigan Jeff Bower FOCUS: MAC, Pac 12 CURRENT JOB: Retired HC FROM: Georgia PLAYED: UGA, Southern Miss COACHED AT/PREVIOUS JOBS: Southern Miss HC OFFICIAL RECUSAL: Southern Miss Frank Beamer FOCUS: MAC, Big XII CURRENT JOB: Retired HC FROM: North Carolina PLAYED: Virginia Tech COACHED AT/PREVIOUS JOBS: Virginia Tech HC OFFICIAL RECUSAL: Georgia, Virginia Tech Sources: Recusals: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/College_Football_Playoff#Selection_committee Focuses or "point person" as the committee calls it: http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/20354984/college-football-playoff-selection-committee-members-assigned-monitor-two-conferences-each 1 Quote Link to comment
huKSer Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 9 hours ago, Excel said: I can't bring myself to believe they'd dare snub the Big Ten like that, especially with Ohio State's AD on the committee and Barry Alvarez probably still retaining significant influence. The real question is what happens to Ohio State if they beat Wisconsin, and Oklahoma beats TCU. Then you'll have: - 1 loss ACC champ who has a win over Clemson/Miami - 1 loss Oklahoma -1 loss Alabama - Either 2 loss Auburn with three powerful wins late in the season or a 1 loss UGA Does OSU get left out in this scenario? They shouldn't be, they're a conference chanp, but I would imagine they do...and to me this is likely to happen. You're right about expanding the playoffs, they should look at a 6-8 team bracket with auto bids for P5 champs and 1-3 at-large bids....but that would kind of suck because it would make the regular season mean less. And an undefeated UCF - but that is not happening Quote Link to comment
jaws Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 4 minutes ago, huKSer said: And an undefeated UCF - but that is not happening I wish they would have played that Georgia Tech game that was canceled. I think they would have been given a little more respect if they would have won that game. I am surprised they have been ranked as low as they have. Quote Link to comment
nic Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 On, Wisconsin! On, Wisconsin! Plunge right through that line!Run the ball right down the field, a touchdown sure this time.On, Wisconsin! On, Wisconsin! Fight on for her fame,Fight! Fellows! Fight! Fight, fight, we'll win this game.On, Wisconsin! On, Wisconsin! Stand up, Badgers sing!'Forward' is our driving spirit loyal voices ring.On, Wisconsin! On, Wisconsin! Raise her glowing flame!Stand, fellows, let us now salute her name! Quote Link to comment
Woody Tressel Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 Excel, I am more than worried about this game. I would be happy to win by 1-point. As for Haskins, I feel we have more upside with him at QB, he can spread the field where Barrett hesitates too long, and telegraphs passes too much as well. Our defense is boom or bust as well. Here is to a great game, as Wisky always gives us problems. Quote Link to comment
Excel Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 8 hours ago, Woody Tressel said: Excel, I am more than worried about this game. I would be happy to win by 1-point. As for Haskins, I feel we have more upside with him at QB, he can spread the field where Barrett hesitates too long, and telegraphs passes too much as well. Our defense is boom or bust as well. Here is to a great game, as Wisky always gives us problems. Hopefully it's a good one, it feels like forever since we've beaten you guys. Do you think this Tennesee stuff will affect Schiano's defense? Haskins scares me a la 2014. Quote Link to comment
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