Apsu Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 14 hours ago, Nebfanatic said: Again, that all may be morally wrong, but it isn't corrupt or illegal. He was doing nothing wrong as he was working on behalf of our government and their interests. Whether or not that is what is in the best interest of the American people or Ukranian people is another subject entirely. But the idea Biden should be investigated for this is still looking to be nothing more than a distraction strategy/conspiracy theory. What is the crime? And as I said, nobody will go to jail over this. But it will hurt Biden's candidacy (being morally wrong). Link to comment
knapplc Posted October 1, 2019 Author Share Posted October 1, 2019 Just now, Apsu said: But it will hurt Biden's candidacy If the intent is to hurt Biden's candidacy, don't you think that's a HUGE problem? 1 Link to comment
Nebfanatic Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 Just now, Apsu said: And as I said, nobody will go to jail over this. But it will hurt Biden's candidacy (being morally wrong). Ok so if its morally wrong but not illegal, than an investigation is an abuse of power. Thanks for clearing that up. I think Biden should have already dropped out of the race. Link to comment
Apsu Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 3 minutes ago, Nebfanatic said: Joe Biden, the person who got Shokin fired, was a US official. I'm not a democrat, there just isn't anything there. If there was go right ahead, I don't care for Biden. But the fact of the matter is when I look at the FACTS of the situation, and I look at the people telling me to pay attention to this, it becomes pretty clear what all this is. Until I see some evidence to the contrary, I'm gonna believe Biden was doing his job. And continuing to propagate the circle... you won't see evidence unless there is an investigation. Link to comment
Nebfanatic Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 1 minute ago, Apsu said: And continuing to propagate the circle... you won't see evidence unless there is an investigation. You don't investigate unless you have a reason to believe a crime was committed. Investigating a person just to fish for evidence of a crime is illegal. Link to comment
knapplc Posted October 1, 2019 Author Share Posted October 1, 2019 Someone REALLY needs to look up the definition of probable cause. 1 2 Link to comment
Nebfanatic Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 Just now, knapplc said: Someone REALLY needs to look up the definition of probable cause. Exactly. I'm sorry @Apsu but your logic is making no sense. Your idea of an investigation is not how we operate in America. 1 Link to comment
Apsu Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 1 minute ago, knapplc said: If the intent is to hurt Biden's candidacy, don't you think that's a HUGE problem? Past records tend to hurt candidacies. Tulsi Gabbard did not create Kamala Harris's record, she exposed it. But to be honest, I would like to see Biden out of the race. Link to comment
Nebfanatic Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 Just now, Apsu said: Past records tend to hurt candidacies. Tulsi Gabbard did not create Kamala Harris's record, she exposed it. But to be honest, I would like to see Biden out of the race. Point is the motivations are political and not based on upholding the law. 2 Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 11 minutes ago, Apsu said: It was a serious question....you have no answer? Link to comment
Apsu Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 As I said (but did not provide a link), that Hunter may have been involved with the IMF facilitated looting of Ukrainian assets, that may have benefited Biden donors or friends. No I don't have links, and I don't care to find them. I posted an opinion, and I am not seeking to make a legal case. And in closing, I have already posted on this topic ten-fold my interest level in it. Link to comment
Nebfanatic Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 Shokin was getting ousted no matter what lets make that clear. It wasn't Biden who decided he needed to go, he was just the one who executed the plan. He was doing his job as Vice President of the United States. Again, if it wasn't him it would have been someone else. Link to comment
Apsu Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 2 minutes ago, BigRedBuster said: It was a serious question....you have no answer? Sigh... If you haven't found one in what I have previously posted, the answer is no. Link to comment
Apsu Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 15 minutes ago, knapplc said: Post a timeline of these events. You're getting a lot of things wrong because you don't know when these things happened. Post-Maidan, pre-Trump. Did I get that right? 16 minutes ago, BigRedBuster said: What part did hunter have in the guy getting fired? Probably zilch. But I never said that he did. Link to comment
knapplc Posted October 1, 2019 Author Share Posted October 1, 2019 Just now, Apsu said: Post-Maidan, pre-Trump. Did I get that right? The deeper you dig, the more likely you are to have to face the fact that this is a false story concocted by a desperate Trump trying to "both sides" his admission of wrongdoing related to the whistleblower complaint. That you don't want to do that digging reflects poorly on you. It doesn't mean there's a story here. 3 2 Link to comment
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