Huckleberry Muhammad

You look pretty good there, but I think you're wrong about the Trojans beating Iowa. Too much drama in La La Land past couple of seasons.. not consistent. Iowa by 11 or 14 or so.

I feel that a truth can come out of anyone, irrespective of their own successes or lack thereof. I also feel that Frazier was likely triggered more by Adrian Martinez's not living (all the way) up to hype ("Heisman dark horse," etc), much more so than his views of Scott Frost.

Moos touched on that in an interview posted in the Journal Star this morning. That and a lot of other things, and peppered with a lot about his respect for walk-ons at Nebraska, past and present, past especially. https://journalstar.com/sports/huskers/sipple/steven-m-sipple-mindful-of-frost-s-task-moos-expresses/article_ccf62df5-300c-59c6-ad06-88ee67687f8b.html#tracking-source=home-trending

T.F. is speaking from experience when he talks about a coach not getting the job done. He can see that. He has that vision.

I wonder if they have to. They should, of course.

I haven't been in this forum for two days. That's one thing. The other thing is that the most repeated notion in here is that Scott Frost "just needs more time." Etc. That's the broken record. Go talk to them. Or to yourself.

Right.On. Exclamation Point.

I understand the way that many Husker fans are seeing that. It was quite tempting for me to see it that way, too. But I see it very differently, and I dare say in some cases, going by what you guys are saying, the very things you're mentioning as what is so good about the hire are what have others worried, not the least of which is, "everyone wanted Frost." That is a horrible reason to hire somebody for big bux at a school that has had a progressively failing football program for two decades (and counting). That reason smacks of a gimmick. You hire a coach to run a (formerly) major program who is with no doubt proven. Scott Frost can be seen that way only if we use our imagination as to his resume. Moos was stating things himself, nobody put those words in his mouth; it's a quote (after another Nebraska loss). He was responding to criticism of the hire; he stated that he wanted to save the sellout streak. I have no doubt that he was also hopeful that, besides the sellout streak and satisfying the fan base with a good Nebraska name guy, he had other reasons and confidence. But he also stated that he'd be fine with just six wins this second season. Hello.

fify And I hope we're wrong. Moos could have shied away from the pr gimmick of getting Scott Frost, ".. to save the sellout streak," as he said, and instead thought things through and went after a proven big name guy to really right this program. Somebody who top recruits would have followed in. I hope I'm mistaken in my feeling that he's going to regret what he did.

Nah. I mean, I do see what's going on with recruiting (and hopeful recruiting as with a juco here and there talked about). But I get my optimism from performance during the season. It's just that, no matter the quality of the guys coming in, they've still got Scott Frost as the head coach. You know?

Does everybody have their mind made up about him? Did anybody change their mind about him as the two seasons unfolded? I've seen posts here that fall solidly in favor of Frost and progress some have seen. I've seen (and written) posts here that express more than just disappointment, but dismay and dread for the future as we made bad teams look good and good teams look very good (with a few exceptions). I'm beginning to think he has more than I first thought.. but not by much. I still think Scott Frost is limited and that he's a fine coach for conferences like AAC, etc, or perhaps as a position coach somewhere as before in his career. I still think he's in over his head and that The Peter Principle applies.

Maybe I missed it, haven't dug into any articles about this, but just from thinking about it I can surmise that Frost had a chat with them and walked away from it of the mind that he needed to remove them post haste. I hope that is the case, and if it is my respect for him goes higher; he sees the importance of public perception, and yes we often have the accused convicted long before any court processes; we do it all the time. T.O. had a pretty idealistic view of all this, remember? He felt that if the accused were given a special chance then that is all that's needed to get them on the path to redemption and the glories ahead. Lawrence Philips proved him wrong (these two are not in the genre at all of that guy, but it's the pitfalls of redemptive idealism I'm thinking about in all this). We need to continue to hold our representatives, including student athletes, to a very high standard here at Nebraska.

We just go to the Zoo Bar a few hours before kickoff. Nice folks in there, if you can put up with the overly cranked up amps when there's live music. I stop at Abe's and get some food for us, as my wife and daughter go in and get our usual table. We've been doing that for quite a while. Her mom and sister and friends to the tailgate thing and tell us "it's gotten quieter lately." Well, one factor is that we're all getting older. I'm coming up on 74, my wife's (mumble) years old, and her mom's (mumble mumble) years old. We can't drink or party like we used to.

Interesting. I have seen Frost say that "if the starters are not on board, then we'll replace them with guys who are," to paraphrase. I would not doubt that several frosh stepped forward or at least put more into their practices etc to be noticed. Speculating because, like you, I have no stats on that particular thing either.

I was in Eureka then Arcata last year during several big fires not far from there. We were told to get micro particle masks and not exercise or breathe deeply or we'd end up thinking about Minnesota football in the years 1904, 1934, 1935, 1936, 1940, 1941, and 1960. Are you okay?

Hey, it really is great to see someone in here who is older than I am.

Point taken, but there is a large percentage of UNL college kids who have parents and grandparents from here or surrounding states, and know what's up with the program's demise since about the time the college kids were born.

I think that, in the 20s, "posting a topic" meant screaming on your front porch.

Yeah we fans are wonderful, etc. GBR. Meanwhile, I think Callahan "stole the Huskers" as we know the Huskers. He came in here so arrogant as to say, "I'm changing the culture here." It was taken as to mean away from a mostly running (option/triple option, etc) game to (drum roll, trumpets: The West Coast Offense). We see what has happened. I'll get laughed out of here, but I still believe we were fine with our ways before him. Yes we could have gradually added more spread out offensive plays with four receivers running around down field, fine. But we could have done without that character. God bless him for finding a home back in the NFL. I wish him all the best, but he messed with a good thing and we have not recovered.

But he was in over his head here. I think we're talking about Nebraska's uniqueness when we talk about coaches failing here. There has to be an understanding, one that is deep. Somehow Bob Devaney tapped into that and T.O. segued nicely (after a bit of angst and him even thinking about coaching at Colorado). Next stop: Solich. He left too soon, I guess. I'm still confused about that episode.

High Time We Went. Joe c$%ker. Edit: Well looky at how the software censored Joe's lasts name. Couldn't even keep the capital C?

Makes sense.

Thank you.

There are other takes on his being on the staff of some teams who have done well. But he has no longevity anywhere, and although it's speculative (and that's why I am not 100% sure he can't do it here), many good coaches rise where they are, not by quitting repeatedly and moving here and there. I am of the opinion (it's an opinion that I want to shake but haven't been able to) that Scott Frost is riding his name after being one of the better QBs in college football for a few years. And now we see his first few years here: nothing much at all has happened beyond the dynamic brought out in the first post: his players are increasingly on board with his stated desires for effort and dedication.