Karawithasmile

"Pelini could still leave. Just because Nebraska is committed to its coach, he might not feel the same way. He’s not at the top of many lists of hot coaching candidates, but Pelini might pursue a coordinator job in the NFL or an attractive college opening. " (btw your baby is ADORABLE We just found out that our daughter and son-in-law are expecting a little boy next April! I'm going to be a grandma! ) Just thought I'd +1 a very classy response to an inflammatory post. And congrats on the baby boy!

Though there were plenty members of the media that embellished the story line, the media also channeled a lot of frustrations from the fan base. If anybody spent five minutes on this board, or listening to Nebraska radio stations, you'd hear tons of fans calling for Pelini's firing, saying why he needs to be fired, etc. My feeling is that most fans didn't want to see Bo fired, but there are certainly a number of people calling for his job. And the athletic department made a mistake, in hindsight, not saying anything. Yesterday's loss was about as bad of a situation as one could have hoped for given the situation, and they come out supporting him. If that was their plan all along, then why not cut this out earlier? Think about it, if Pelini were undefeated, ahd a national title and a conference title under his belt, do we think the AD would have come out with a message sooner than today? I do. Absolutely none of this would be an issue if Pelini would have gone undefeated this year, let alone if he had a conference title under his belt (if he had a national title, I don't think he'd be here anymore, I think he'd be at one of the numerous places he's already applied). I agree that before yesterday's game and the ensuing post-game debacle, most fans did not want to see Pelini go. Now I'm not so sure what the real read on that is. It's hard to gauge an accurate perception from message boards, local article comments, radio calls, etc., but I would definitely say that the tide seems to have changed. You're spot on about the mistake in not coming out sooner, Enhance. Had Eichorst supported Pelini prior to the game, there's no way Bo comes out in full-on crazy mode like that - and today the storylines would be different.

a third quarter fake punt from your own territory when down by 7 says otherwise. +1 for you, sir! But seriously though, he already said he can look himself in the mirror and be proud of what he's done for Nebraska. He's not embarassed about anything, including the inexperienced coordinators he's promoted (who, by the way, will be exactly the same next year). He may hate the media and he may not like the fans very much, but he won't be going anywhere unless he's helped out the door IMO.

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I think Pelini knew where he stood, and I think Pelini and Eichorst have a better relationship than we are aware of. ADs know the head coach of the top revenue generating sport at their university. Hmmm I think I disagree with this. Pelini had the look of a desperate man yesterday. The strange fake punt (totally out of character for him and also way too early in the game)... the crazed hat swipe... the "what kind of question is that" retort at halftime... the post-game rant against the media... the "if they wanna fire me" statement... I don't think Pelini knew at all where he stood. And honestly, it's quite possible that he still isn't entirely certain given the fervor shooting around the state today.

The bolded statement I completely agree with. I think Bo is ready to leave and doesn't want to be here anymore. If rumors of Bo wanting to take the tOSU position were true, is it possible the NU administration refused to allow him to interview for it and Bo begrudgingly stayed? The underlined statement. Are Husker fans willing to go thru this? This is Nebraska after all where we've had one losing season in how many decades? We all know how things went when Callahan went 4-7 and the fans teeth gnashing that endured. Is Eichorst willing to endure the pressure he will face if this were to pan out? Are fans willing to endure that on the assumption this is all part of a much larger plan to bring the program back to dominance? Hujan, that was a very thought-provoking original post. Though I really hope your theory is wrong, especially the part HuskerfaninOkieLand underlined and then expounded on. Watching the program wither and recruiting suffer would be so disheartening. I really doubt that Eichorst allows it to get that far. It would really make Bo's tenure worthless (and he has accomplished good and turned us around).

Yeah, he thinks all the fans showing him support are just "great." (And he sounded so convincing about that too!) Pelini's comments have more to do with the media agenda than anything else. I'd really like to believe that. But I kind of feel like a jilted lover when hearing those statements in combination with that stupid audio tape coming out this year.

Yeah, he thinks all the fans showing him support are just "great." (And he sounded so convincing about that too!)

I think the answer is, they are younger fans that don't realize that things can (and have been) better. They forget we had 35 years of success prior to Callahan showing up. Beanman, I think there is definitely something to that theory. The defeatist attitude certainly seems to surround the younger bunch. it really should not though. if you watch the games, you can clearly see the team on the field is under-performing. and if you watch the B1G, there is no reason we should not be able to compete every year. we should never have more then 2 losses in B1G play. not the way it is right now. Seems like a short time ago we were talking about a "scoring explosion" and a weak ass schedule we were going to bowl right through. Hmm. The injuries to this team deserve to be acknowledged as a reason for failing, sure they do. Now, this staff has utilized every possible excuse for failing that is available to them in the last six years. Legitimate excuses? Sure probably. It still amazes me though how every year the excuse jumps for one,area to the other. First it was great defense poor offense. Then it was Watsons fault so we fired him and got Beck. Then Beck was a god send, but we couldn't possibly win games with all this coaching turnover on the offense and defense. So finally Becks offense scores points but the defense is sh#t. Unfortunately, our first couple recruiting classes turned out to be terrible. So there's that excuse. Turnovers, well, thats the constant excuse. Now the schedule set up to where there were no excuses for that previous "well we made the jump to the Big Ten " excuse. You know, where we couldn't possibly expect these coaches to win right away after that move. They needed more time. By God, just when you thought the excuses had to be about out, 35 of our starting 22 players get injured. Unfortunately killing another season. I know I'm missing some but damn, I'm worn out from all these excuses already. What will the excuse be next year? It's only a matter of when not "if" anymore. Haven't you heard? The new excuse is us fans. We're vitriol and our obsession with winning is tearing the team apart.

This guy gets it. Sorry, sir, I'm out of +1s.

Thank god for you sir. PLEASE forward your resume and qualifications to Eichorst. Then maybe you can become a positve influence for this site and diminish the overwhelming amount of negativity. I sometimes feel the only way to satisfy some posters would be 13-0 seasons with 13 shutouts, no penalties, mistakes or injuries. 333 sellouts speaks to something. When the fans stop coming, we then have a problem. Til then, voice your opinion, but support the players, staff and admin First of all, that's already happening. Looked at the student section lately? And you think that ticked off boosters are going to continue to buy up seats to help protect the streak? An inflamed fanbase at least shows passion for the team. Apathy is much, much scarier.

+1 The way this has gone down so far is pretty unprofessional when compared to the class this program typically exudes. Local media have played a very big hand in all of this... Sure the "this smacks of Solich" and "give Bo another shot" articles made the rounds the last couple weeks, but how many articles have we seen from them that have gone the exact opposite direction, so as to be inflammatory? And now another microphone gate? *Insert the "Come On Man!" soundtrack for Monday Football here*

I don't know why this surprises you that much. Florida is in the SEC and they are partners with ESPN, so of course they will cover them more and help make excuses for a team like Florida. I have said this a few times about Bo and I still feel this way, I really hope he stays with different coordinators. I would like to see them hire an offensive coordinator that can help to give us some consistency and I would like to see them make Bo the HC/DC. It will be interesting to see how things play out in the next few weeks. Eh, he had a ton of opportunities prior to this year to find different coordinators outside of the insulated bubble of buddies he's now created. Also, I'm under the impression that he is the HC/DC currently. At least that's been the speculation around these parts. In any event, the situation is suddenly too contentious for him to stay. I wouldn't have said that 48 hours ago, but look at the swirling mess we're in now. Can anyone imagine how awkward it would be at this point if he doesn't go? It's like refusing to tell your wife you love her, letting all your buddies tell her that you hate her, having her tell you that if you want a divorce just divorce her, and then waiting a few days and saying to her, "actually I've decided we can stay hitched." Oh and in the meantime the entire community you live in is posting, tweeting, and talk-showing about your relationship.

I agree with your post though I don't think Bo lost any "die hard" fans today. The true fans wanted Bo Pelini to return after Bill Callahan because Bo brought his 'fire' and aggressive attitude during his year here in 2003. Those fans should not be swayed simply because the media and Rod Gilmore (ABC commentator who seemed to dislike everything about Nebraska except for the fans) said that Bo was out of line. You do make some very valuable points though and please do continue to post your thoughts. LOL at the guy with 8 posts saying this to a guy with 5,000+

Just curious, what about what he did today was that much different than what he has done before? The last year or two he's been minding his Ps and Qs, but nothing he did today seemed (at least to me) that much more offensive than past incidents that he has had. He's always been contentious to media. He's always been less than receptive to the fans. He's always been prone to outbursts. What about today set you over the edge? For one, he threw his cap at an official, good god. #2 mouthed off to the reporter at 1/2 time then again went all "Bo mode" in the post game. There's video here to show. Basiclly Bo did everything you could to get fired And I'm not disagreeing that all of that was horrible and reflected on the University badly. I also don't disagree that he's quite possibly attempting to be fired, collect his money for passing GO, and then GTFO. I'm just making the point that he's had temper tantrums with officials countless times since he's been here (though as I said, not as much recently). Remember the incident where he berated Martinez on the sideline and put his finger into Martinez's chest? Then of course the infamous, profanity-laden rant that was brought to light this year... Anyway, today's behavior just seemed like Pelini from 2-3 years ago.

Only if we actually have a plan. If we're going to scramble and botch another hire, I'd rather keep Bo and get our 8 or 9 wins next year. This. I hope we do have a plan, now that Bo has basically dared the powers that be to fire him (and his whole attitude, the fans' attitudes, and the silence from the University suggest that this relationship will not last much longer). If we don't have a plan, this whole thing was mismanaged very badly. If we weren't considering outsing Pelini, the story should have been squashed immediately last week. Because a loss was only going to ignite this. And now here we are.

Just curious, what about what he did today was that much different than what he has done before? The last year or two he's been minding his Ps and Qs, but nothing he did today seemed (at least to me) that much more offensive than past incidents that he has had. He's always been contentious to media. He's always been less than receptive to the fans. He's always been prone to outbursts. What about today set you over the edge?

Positives: Our defense turned out to be better than expected and will be very good next year. Ameer Abdullah has a heart the size of the state Kenny Bell would take on the devil if he had Bo on his side (I think that's a positive?) Valentine looked good. He is also a very big man, don't let him sit on you. Not-so-positives: Westerkamp's stache. When you play that poorly with a mustache like that, you look like a giant caricature... It's only funny when you're winning. Enunwa's drops. Turns out he may be regretting those subtle jabs he made about Martinez's passing abilities. He's had some missed opportunities this week and against Michigan State. Pelini's circus. We're relevant, guys! Just check twitter! Creative playcalling. WTF was that fake punt? New regime. It looks like Pelini will be taking his millions and laughing all the way to the bank, some bank far, far away from Lincoln. And now it will be time to rebuild. Hopefully it happens faster than 6 years from now.

He did get rocked pretty hard.

LOL @ this thread when so many people in the game day thread were complaining that Cross was lousy and we needed Abdullah to stop taking breathers on the sideline.

Not anymore. Now that walk on is down by 22 points. Just sayin'