Bowfin

...what's Monte Kiffin doing these days?...

Yep, I know I couldn't get enough of it last Saturday.

Agreed. Pull names out of a hat from 2nd String to Scout team until all the positions are filled. Maybe have a drawing of a seat number and that fan gets to coach the defense for the first series as well (What's good for the goose is good for the gander). Our present standard is something less than a ten yard average on first down, so that should give the random participants an achievable goal.

Why even have a huddle if everything is figured after they break and Martinez wanders back and forth from the backfield to the line while looking at the sideline and doing hand jive and stomping his feet? For Pete's sake, pick a play and let the defense worry about whether THEY have the right answer to what Nebraska runs, and forget all of the soul searching and hand wringing about what the defense looks like it might do.

If we are going to have "part time" players, why don't we just tell them they get a "part time" training table: Four days a week, they get two meals a day. The rest of the time, they can "lay down" instead of eating, same as how the played the Wyoming game. You want to be fed the entire week? Play an entire game. Yes, that is facetious and tongue in cheek, but if they WERE actually sent off with no breakfast one day, with the above explanation?

Part of that Michigan play is Kenny's superpowers, but also notice how Kenny uses a Jedi mind trick on the referee so he doesn't throw a flag. "...This isn't the penalty you are looking for...move along..." In the Wisonsin game, Kenny uses his powers sideline people, and not the ref, which is why he got a flag. After the flag was thrown, I was afraid I would see Kenny pinch his fingers together and strangle the ref from a distance, saying, "You have failed me for the last time.", but Kenny is more benevolent than Darth Vader. (my apologies to anyone who hasn't seen Star Wars)

They need to make that show more about the nuts and bolts of the football game and less fluff pieces and almost embarassing irrelevant chatter. Things like "What happened here?" "What sprung our guy there? " , rather than "Next up, the mother of a certain player has an interesting spoon collection in her china closet that you won't want to miss!" Back on topic, I think Bo was itching to go convince any defensive line recruits how badly they are needed and how quickly they could play at Nebraska, rather than comment on the spoon collection.

No offense, but how old are you? Monte Kiffin with his own son as boss is not the same as Monte Kiffin at Minnesota, Tampa Bay, and the Nebraska national championship teams. You did hear that Kiffin say he IS going back to the NFL, not "I will if I can find a job." Do yourself a favor and go wikipedia or google him.

Bo has fantastic support and assets available in every conceivable way from both the university and its fans. So if superlative support and superior resources + Bo Pelini = average outcomes, then that coudl be construed as underachieving. Also, if one doesn't believe average can put you on the hot seat, look at Mack Brown in Texas and Lane Kiffin at USC. Shaggybevo has myriad threads going about life after Mack Brown, and Monte Kiffin has abandoned his own kid for being a disappointment.

Right now, I think we have as big a problem with scheme as we do talent. It looks like each and every player has to solve the equivalent of a Sudoku puzzle plus a little bit of trig to figure out what his assignment truly is if someone moves on the other side of the ball. The biggest, fastest, strongest players can be neutralized if they are frozen in place because they are afraid to make a mistake. We had guys playing at the end of the season still looking at each other with that "What the Heck!?" expression on their faces. I predict same expression, different faces next year...

Just for the record, how many Husker fans told you that they agreed with that call? ...and just to clarify, you are saying that one bad call deserves another...correct?...

We also saw how many times Pelini/Beck had the opportunity to put him in to get some snaps and they didn't.

For all of you who jumped on krc1995 for his post, consider if this were the case: "just hire one callused, weathered, salty, old DC that can show Pelini how things really work in big time college ball" = Monte Kiffin Wouldn't sound so far fetched now, would it?

Humans are influenced by reactions, and putting on the striped shirt of invincibility or carrying the whistle of Solomon's wisdom doesn't preclude this. This play was a prime example. If the kid doesn't go flying and land on his head, do you think the flag would have been thrown? Next, you're going to tell me you don't believe that "make up calls" exist...

Well, when Wisconsin gave Martinez a pile driver and the rest of the team did nothing, that told the refs it wasn't a big enough deal to throw a flag. That led emboldened another Wisconsin player to take a second cheap shot at Taylor's knees. I would rather we get a flag before Taylor gets major reconstructive knee surgery than they get one after they put one of our players down. I guess it's a matter of perspective.

I don't care for trolls or trolling, and your comment that this particular subject isn't worth discussing because we lost it by a big margin is snarky, catty trolling that I wish you would take to a Wisconsin forum. So, I guess that is a "yes".

Yes, absolutely. We were afraid to make contact with any Wisconsin player after that, precluding any chance for the would have been inevitable comeback. Seriously, I answered this question, albeit sarcastically, earlier in the thread. Did you read it? Or better yet, as my nephew just stated, if this particular call wasn't going to affect the outcome of the game, then why make it?

No apologies from me. I guess Kenny Bell is just too violent for Nebraska to suit up against the old Big 10 teams: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHrzQjxlL2s

Wisconsin didn't have a yellow jersey on the player, so how are we supposed to know which one of your guys are too dainty for full contact unless you dress them in one? Martinez got a pile driver and he bounced up to finish the drive. You Wisconsin guys need to toughen up.

Well then, Monsignor, if we are only going to look at it from a "whether it cost us the game" perspective, then Kenny Bell should have finished his unfortunate victim off with a stomp. After all, it wouldn't have changed the outcome of the game...right?... Now if you have anything to add about the specific play and the resulting call, take time out from your trolling and contribute. Otherwise, go back under your bridge and wait for either the Biggest Bill Goat Gruff or Kenny Bell to show up knock you into the river.

I am always at a loss trying to understand how a defensive player can stand motionless, with feet planted firmly on the field in the hopes the oncoming ball carrier will run right to him. That tells me said player has no confidence at all in his own abilities to tackle the ball carrier one on one, or he is afraid of initiating contact. Does anyone really think Montee Ball is not going to go right around a flatfooted, stationary linebacker or defensive back, rather than head right towards him? Especially when he has ten yards of open space on either side of the defender?

NCAA needs to show just exactly what is wrong with Bell's block, and more importantly, the "proper" way Bell should have thrown that block. Otherwise, we will be entering the era of NBA flops and European soccer drama queens falling down in front of the refs. As for "Helmet to helmet" contact? Look at any lineman's helmet after every game. Numerous scratches and paint swaps are shown. Is every one of those marks deserving of a penalty? If not, which ones? Or is it going to be, "I can't define the helmet to helmet penalty, but you'll know it when I call it." Oh, and Martinez getting a pile driver and no one on the team taking umbrage to it? That's the answer as to why we got pounded. They knew they were the third toughest squad to take the field that night, far behind Wisconsin and just behind Wisconsin's band.

For the time and effort and money it took for that guy to get his seat in the stadium, I wouldn't begrudge him his buffoonery. He can have that, we'll take the win and the trophy and the championship game next week... ...but you could have said, "Yeah, I see what you're saying...Your guy has almost as many catches by Huskers as our guy, and yours isn't even trying!"

I agree with those sentiments. However, that sort of mutual respect in the conference disappeared when we left the back door open in the Big 8 and the Texas teams wandered in and took over. Having read two years of ShaggyBevo forums, Texas, Aggie, and Baylor seem to hate anyone in their conference more than anyone outside. They reserve the deepest hate for their own players and coaches, though, so I think it is a pathological thing that they can't really help, for the most part. I still root for the Big 8 teams when they play SEC, Pac 10, and the like. Iowa State probably more than the others.

It would be interesting to hear a sober version of this story. My take is that the Original Poster is going to say "I had a very bad experience" many times in his life if he can't follow simple rules concerning alcohol. My second take is that the fans surrounding you saw two young people from the opposing team that were well on the way to being drunk (or having already achieved that destination) before noon, and treated you with the normal amount of respect and consideration given to such people. So your drinking habits are abnornal and illegal. The fact that you don't see anything wrong with sharing such behavior in a public forum is more disturbing yet.