Since we're stuck with it,

[holvy83]

OK, I know I'll probably get nailed for even suggesting this but here goes. Why not accept Colorado as the "rival" they have wanted to be for the last several years? TO and Switzer were naturals considering they both took over their respective programs within a couple years of each other, and they were such opposites. (We all know that Davaney and Switzer used to toss down a few cold ones together but I couldn't imagine TO doing that.) The Nebrask-Oklahoma game was the second to the last game every year as both teams went to a bowl game every year. (Okie may have missed a few.) And there was always something riding on the outcome. Well, we now have Colo. as the last game (Thanks Big 12.)every year. Bo and Hawkins have each taken over as the head coach recently and are young and firery in temprement. This seems like a good time to put the past behind us and move along with the new centurary.

 

I don't know about all of you but I'm bored and this seems like something we can kick around for awhile.

 

My a$$ is up in the air, take a shot gang.

 

T_O_B

 

I can't believe you had the nerve to suggest it.

 

like there is much else to discuss... OK so we don't take the Buffs serious, and neither do the players from judging on how close this "non rivalry" game has become the last ten years. No one on here can't say there are not some serious bragging rights that go along with this game, so how is this not a rivalry again?

[husker B-rent]

this is y (sorry if this seems its a bit on the attack but I was writing to CU fans and just pasted everything on this board, I only changed a tad of the wording)

 

CU vs. Nebraska is a rivalry (just not a very significent one, at least to us), just like Oklahoma vs OSU is a rivalry, or Michigan vs MSU, or Georgia vs GT, or CU vs CSU, or Teas vs TAMU, or KSU vs Nebraska, or KSU vs Kansas, or Florida vs FSU, and many more. The fact of matter is that these games all are rivalry games, just not major ones. This is because one sides sees this game as the top of their list every year and the other does not, it still is a big game, just not supernatural in the college football world. CU pretty much founded their program with object of defeating the unwaiving powerhouse of Nebraska, so the game has gigantic meaning to the CU side of the deal, but to our side it was just another team in the Big 8 then 12 who wanted to put themselves on the map. Our big game has been and still is Oklahoma, unfortunately the Big 12 arranged it so that we could not play every year and Texas began to take over as Oklahoma's markee game. In truth our fan base is more excited about the Missouri game than CU, just as Notre Dame sees Michigan as a bigger game than Purdue. It's nothing personal to CU, just that there is just a big split in tradition between the two teams when it comes to the way we view the game and in truth the series hasn't ever really been balanced until we had our worst patch of years in our history(47 to 19 and 3 ties in history, 14 to 6 and 1 tie in the last 20 years from 2007 and back). No disrespect to CU's program (a true talent of the 90's), but in truth it wasn't a major game for us until their uprising in the late 80's/early 90's and Oklahoma's fall in the 90's (but still OU was our most important game of the season).

 

 

since 1936 (modern era to NCAA standards) the series is at 37-44-3 with Oklahoma in the lead (a much more narrow of a gap the NU vs CU, 47-19-3 NU in the lead) since than Nebraska has won 5 national titles,3 Heismans, 43 confrence championships, 816 wins (4th in NCAA, winning 69% of their games) and 92 all-americans. Oklahoma has won 7 NCs, 4 Heismans, 41 confrence championships, 757 wins (winning 69% of their games), and have had144 all-americans. Since 1970 Nu=5 NCs, 3 Heismans OU=4 NCs, 2 Heismans. From 1950 the NU-OU game was the final game of the season (with a few minor excuses usually set by the two teams not being able to come to agreement). From this time the battle grew into a rivalry because of the fact that the two were always in contention for the big 8 title and then National Title, and such games as the "The Game of the Century" and "The Game of the New Century" were played.

 

The NU v OU rivalry isn't a battle for the Championship for the National Title now, well at least for us, but neither were the 90's (for OU). Now I do recoginize that Texas has now taken our place as OU's #1, but I don't believe we should settle for our major rivalry to be with a team who has mediocre prestige. Now granted we are not our Power House stage currently, but with our fanbase, history, athletic facilities, and of course Tom Osborne we just don't see that we will be down forever, just as USC came back or Oklahoma.

 

Heres the stats in the mediocre rivalry

 

CU needs to win a few more championships and about 20 straight games and they will be a little closer to our #1 game! Sure it's a rivalry, but like I said before, through out the years how much of a rivalry has it been (lets say in comparison Ohio State to Illinois)?

 

Answer: 5 champions (all undeafeted, but 1970 had a tie) to 1(with a 9-1-1 record, given with 5 downs to get in the NC and a clipping call to get out of the NC with a W), favoring NU

 

3 Heismans (almost 4) compared to 1, favoring NU

 

43 confrence championships to 26 (only six from Big 8 to Big 12), favoring NU

 

92 unanimous all-americans to 55, favoring NU

 

35 (44 overall) straight bowl appearances to just 27 overall, favoring NU

 

23 (major) individual awards to 10, favoring NU

 

817 program wins to 658, favoring NU

 

Tom Osborne 3 NCs (one of the highest winning % in college football, more the Bear Bryant, JoePa, and Bowden, and the once most winningest coach in college football) and Bob Devaney 2 NCs ( only a few percentage points below Osborne's career and our founder) compared to Bill McCartney (only noteworthy coach of CU) 1 NC ( a coach not even with a 100 wins, and a winning percentage about 20% less than Osborne's), favoring NU

 

297 consecutive sellouts at a stadium that holds over 80,000 compared to Fulsom [Prison] that sometimes can't even fill its near 50,000 seats, favoring NU

 

The series is 48-19-3, favoring NU

 

 

Heres a link to a cool rundown of another fans reasoning

 

The Definitive Work on Nebraska's Rival

I think the series is 47-18-2 The cu game was a MANUFACTURED rival by there coach.

 

 

exactly! a rivalry has to at least be somewhat close.

 

if no one knows the story the CU coach at the time told his players that they wanted to be better than NU was at the time and that they should always strive to be better than us. eventually they started calling us rivals after that....

[SouthBayHusker]

I like telling them that they're not our rival because they go insane. Pretty childish but funny.

[HSKRNOKC]

I hate um.

 

Beachbuffs is a great poster here. Exception to the rule.

 

Not quite a main rival but a divisional rival ..yes.

[husker B-rent]

OK, I know I'll probably get nailed for even suggesting this but here goes. Why not accept Colorado as the "rival" they have wanted to be for the last several years? TO and Switzer were naturals considering they both took over their respective programs within a couple years of each other, and they were such opposites. (We all know that Davaney and Switzer used to toss down a few cold ones together but I couldn't imagine TO doing that.) The Nebrask-Oklahoma game was the second to the last game every year as both teams went to a bowl game every year. (Okie may have missed a few.) And there was always something riding on the outcome. Well, we now have Colo. as the last game (Thanks Big 12.)every year. Bo and Hawkins have each taken over as the head coach recently and are young and firery in temprement. This seems like a good time to put the past behind us and move along with the new centurary.

 

I don't know about all of you but I'm bored and this seems like something we can kick around for awhile.

 

My a$$ is up in the air, take a shot gang.

 

T_O_B

 

I can't believe you had the nerve to suggest it.

 

like there is much else to discuss... OK so we don't take the Buffs serious, and neither do the players from judging on how close this "non rivalry" game has become the last ten years. No one on here can't say there are not some serious bragging rights that go along with this game, so how is this not a rivalry again?

 

 

ummm......as was pointed out above the all time record is like 48-17! that is like saying iowa state is our rival!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

You go to school at ISU, do you consider the two schools rivals?

[mwj98]

Nope. Can't stand Colorado. They are always looking to take a dig at NU. Jealousy? Envy? who knows and who cares. McCartney started this crap.

 

They want to be like NU so bad that can't stand it. As far as I am concern, this will never be a rivalry. They needed a game to hang their hats on, and McCartney and his crew circled this game. Who cares.

[holvy83]

OK, I know I'll probably get nailed for even suggesting this but here goes. Why not accept Colorado as the "rival" they have wanted to be for the last several years? TO and Switzer were naturals considering they both took over their respective programs within a couple years of each other, and they were such opposites. (We all know that Davaney and Switzer used to toss down a few cold ones together but I couldn't imagine TO doing that.) The Nebrask-Oklahoma game was the second to the last game every year as both teams went to a bowl game every year. (Okie may have missed a few.) And there was always something riding on the outcome. Well, we now have Colo. as the last game (Thanks Big 12.)every year. Bo and Hawkins have each taken over as the head coach recently and are young and firery in temprement. This seems like a good time to put the past behind us and move along with the new centurary.

 

I don't know about all of you but I'm bored and this seems like something we can kick around for awhile.

 

My a$$ is up in the air, take a shot gang.

 

T_O_B

 

I can't believe you had the nerve to suggest it.

 

like there is much else to discuss... OK so we don't take the Buffs serious, and neither do the players from judging on how close this "non rivalry" game has become the last ten years. No one on here can't say there are not some serious bragging rights that go along with this game, so how is this not a rivalry again?

 

 

ummm......as was pointed out above the all time record is like 48-17! that is like saying iowa state is our rival!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

You go to school at ISU, do you consider the two schools rivals?

 

[Drowning_in_the_Sea_of_Red]

OK, I know I'll probably get nailed for even suggesting this but here goes. Why not accept Colorado as the "rival" they have wanted to be for the last several years? TO and Switzer were naturals considering they both took over their respective programs within a couple years of each other, and they were such opposites. (We all know that Davaney and Switzer used to toss down a few cold ones together but I couldn't imagine TO doing that.) The Nebrask-Oklahoma game was the second to the last game every year as both teams went to a bowl game every year. (Okie may have missed a few.) And there was always something riding on the outcome. Well, we now have Colo. as the last game (Thanks Big 12.)every year. Bo and Hawkins have each taken over as the head coach recently and are young and firery in temprement. This seems like a good time to put the past behind us and move along with the new centurary.

 

I don't know about all of you but I'm bored and this seems like something we can kick around for awhile.

 

My a$$ is up in the air, take a shot gang.

 

T_O_B

As much as I hate to... I have to agree with ya, TOB.

 

 

Sooner or later, we're going to have to accept it. Oklahoma isn't coming back.

[gobigredkent]

Deep down I feel like we're rivals (but will never admit it). Everything is there for us to be rivals (our states share a border, we play every year, in recent years the game has meant something (bowling or not - ok it's not national championships but the Army Navy game is quite the rivalry and they're not playing for NCs). Everything points to a rivalry.

[huKSer]

Lets step back and look at this . . . .

 

What we should do is to open it up to corporate sponsorship. Rocky Mountain News Rivalry, oops, they went belly up - so maybe Boulder Bail Bonds Rivalry. Or conversely Berkshire Hathaway Its not a Rivalry. Highest bidder wins.

[HUSKER 37]

NO. PERIOD.

I agree

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My a$$ is up in the air, take a shot gang.

 

T_O_B

 

Dang TOBy..

 

What with you sticking yer butt in the air and a couple of others holding in their monthly visitors ("No Period")

You're all throwin' some mighty nasty visuals out there.

 

I read some parts of the Book, "Heart of a Husker" online and something in that book struck me as a good indicator of a "Rival".

One of the players was describing how even though we took "one game at a time", we pretty much spent part of at least one practice each week with the scout team pretending to be Oklahoma so we could have some extra practice for our big rivalry game.

 

I don't ever see us worrying about CU like that.

 

Just face it...We're orphans.

[HuskerJosh]

When they can win an unshared National Title, we'll talk. Til then? They're wannabes.

[Enhance]

NU-OU had conference and national title implications. Nebraska and CU don't have that (recent "bowl-eligibility implications" are not impressive enough to designate rivalry status).

 

Sorry, Colorado isn't a rival. They are just one of those teams where we have a bit of bad blood with them, but they are not a rival. Rivalries are between teams that, when they play, there is a lot of implication that goes into that outcome. Texas and OU is a great example. Whoever beats the other usually wins the South (except for 2008 ). There doesn't always have to be great implications for the game, but there still has to be some connection between the teams. OU-NU lost the connection thanks to the Big 12, so they really aren't our "rival" in the true sense anymore because when we play it usually doesn't matter to a whole extent. The last time we played them and it mattered was the Big 12 Championship game in '06.

 

CU's plan of attack was "it doesn't matter if we lose every game all year, just as long as we beat Nebraska". It's good to set your goals on the team that is dominating your conference (referring to the 90's here), but saying that your season is debunked if you don't beat one team is ridiculous.

 

CU-NU will be a rival if they are both good every year and beating the other means that you will move onto the Big 12 Championship game. One year one of the teams is good, the next year that team is bad and it's been that way the last few seasons with neither team being consistent. If CU wants this to be a rivalry, they need to start being a threat every year and not just cry for it to be when there isn't a whole lot riding on the game.

[skerrugby]

As a younger NU fan I consider Mizzery as more of a rival. That stems from the fact that my family has former Mizzery players from the 60's and 70's who hunt at our place and I'm sick of the BS that I have heard from them the last few years. So take it for what its worth.

[IceMan]

I'm looking forward to being good enough to think of these two teams MO, and CU as hard pratice games. And looking forward to teams like Texas and OU rethinking how they'll pratice to get ready for the power house/Big Red machine of Nebraska once again! Now Pass me the F*cking koolaid!!!