Creed Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 So (besides the SEC) who had the best bowl season: ACC - terrible; no big wins; UGLY loss for conf champ (#23 WVU over #15 Clemson). B12 - nice record but only one win over a ranked team (#3 OSU over #4 Stanford); ugly loss Rutgers over ISU or B12 #2 KSU to SEC #3 Ark. B1G - 4-6; #13 Mich over #11 VT and #17 MSU over #17 UGA, #10 Wisc played respectable vs #5 Oregon; Ugly loss #22 Penn State to #19 Houston BE - Good wins by WVU and Cincy over Vandy; ugly loss Pitt to SMU - BE just doesn't have a lot of good bowl parings which benefits their record most years. PAC - Terrible; Oregon won a game they should have; ugly loss Wash giving up 67 to Baylor. If look below the surface, the B1G faired pretty well and the B12's record is a little inflated with easy match-ups. I would rank as follows 1. SEC 2. B12 & B1G tie 4. BE 5. PAC 6. ACC Quote Link to comment
Excel Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 So (besides the SEC) who had the best bowl season: ACC - terrible; no big wins; UGLY loss for conf champ (#23 WVU over #15 Clemson). B12 - nice record but only one win over a ranked team (#3 OSU over #4 Stanford); ugly loss Rutgers over ISU or B12 #2 KSU to SEC #3 Ark. B1G - 4-6; #13 Mich over #11 VT and #17 MSU over #17 UGA, #10 Wisc played respectable vs #5 Oregon; Ugly loss #22 Penn State to #19 Houston BE - Good wins by WVU and Cincy over Vandy; ugly loss Pitt to SMU - BE just doesn't have a lot of good bowl parings which benefits their record most years. PAC - Terrible; Oregon won a game they should have; ugly loss Wash giving up 67 to Baylor. If look below the surface, the B1G faired pretty well and the B12's record is a little inflated with easy match-ups. I would rank as follows 1. SEC 2. B12 & B1G tie 4. BE 5. PAC 6. ACC I agree with that assessment...overall not a bad year for the Big Ten compared to the last couple, I'd still like to do better but we just get some tough bowls so it happens. Quote Link to comment
NUance Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 Yeah, I agree with what you say. The B12's number is inflated by having teams in crappy bowls. Here are the actual bowl records for this season. C-USA (5) 4-1 .800 MAC (5) 4-1 .800 Big 12 (8) 6-2 .750 SEC (9) 6-3 .667 Big East (5) 3-2 .600 Ind. (2) 1-1 .500 Big Ten(10) 4-6 .400 MWC (5) 2-3 .400 Sun Belt (3) 1-2 .333 Pac-12 (7) 2-5 .286 ACC (8) 2-6 .250 WAC (3) -3 .000 LINK Quote Link to comment
WoodyHayes1951 Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 If there was an ACC Network then ESPiN would be ripping the ACC right now. Since 1998 the conference has TWO BCS wins and zero vs SEC,Big Ten,Big XII or Pac-10/12. BCS wins were FSU vs VaTech and VaTech vs Cincinnati Boise St and WVU have as many BCS wins as the entire ACC conference. Quote Link to comment
Excel Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 If there was an ACC Network then ESPiN would be ripping the ACC right now. Since 1998 the conference has TWO BCS wins and zero vs SEC,Big Ten,Big XII or Pac-10/12. BCS wins were FSU vs VaTech and VaTech vs Cincinnati Boise St and WVU have as many BCS wins as the entire ACC conference. If they don't give us some kind of playoff or +1 at the very least they could get rid of AQ's all together. Many people say that the Big East should be stripped of their bid but they've won more than three times as many BCS games as the ACC. The ACC is just plain awful. Quote Link to comment
WoodyHayes1951 Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 If there was an ACC Network then ESPiN would be ripping the ACC right now. Since 1998 the conference has TWO BCS wins and zero vs SEC,Big Ten,Big XII or Pac-10/12. BCS wins were FSU vs VaTech and VaTech vs Cincinnati Boise St and WVU have as many BCS wins as the entire ACC conference. If they don't give us some kind of playoff or +1 at the very least they could get rid of AQ's all together.... I don't know why we rip the Big East but don't the ACC. The Big East has more wins and BIGGER wins in BCS games(even after the Canes left) The Big East is dead so they should lose their AQ bid. The ACC will retain theirs because they have so much political power. UVA,Carolina,Duke,etc It won't solve anything. Taking the Big East bid away is just a way of saying they will try to get 3 SEC teams in. Quote Link to comment
irafreak Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 I thought KSU only lost by 13...our loss was worse than theirs Quote Link to comment
Creed Posted January 11, 2012 Author Share Posted January 11, 2012 I thought KSU only lost by 13...our loss was worse than theirs Yes, but it was #20 Neb vs #9 SCar compared to a fairly even (and key) matchup #8 KSU vs #6 Ark (B12 #2 vs SEC #3) Quote Link to comment
Muck Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 It won't solve anything. Taking the Big East bid away is just a way of saying they will try to get 3 SEC teams in. Don't forget that it will also mean 3 B1G teams will be in the BCS/big four (whatever they end up calling it) bowls as often as not as well. I'm fine with sneaking the occasional BCS bid if it means Big Ten teams get to share the extra money that adding a Nebraska or whoever to the BCS pool will bring. Don't forget that Ohio State, TSUN, Nebraska & Penn State will generate more interest than any four SEC schools. Quote Link to comment
MichiganMan Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 trying to say this as an unbias person Michigan's Sugar Bowl win helps the conference rep. Quote Link to comment
VA Husker Fan Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 trying to say this as an unbias person Michigan's Sugar Bowl win helps the conference rep. Yes, and the OP listed that win first in the B1G bowl games. It wasn't overlooked. Quote Link to comment
Muck Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 Michigan's Sugar Bowl win helps the conference rep. Beating Virginia Tech so easy even a caveman can do it. Quote Link to comment
BOJ Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 Michigan's Sugar Bowl win helps the conference rep. Beating Virginia Tech so easy even a caveman can do it. Give em credit, they won; we did not. Quote Link to comment
husker_99 Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 If there was an ACC Network then ESPiN would be ripping the ACC right now. Since 1998 the conference has TWO BCS wins and zero vs SEC,Big Ten,Big XII or Pac-10/12. BCS wins were FSU vs VaTech and VaTech vs Cincinnati Boise St and WVU have as many BCS wins as the entire ACC conference. If they don't give us some kind of playoff or +1 at the very least they could get rid of AQ's all together.... I don't know why we rip the Big East but don't the ACC. The Big East has more wins and BIGGER wins in BCS games(even after the Canes left) The Big East is dead so they should lose their AQ bid. The ACC will retain theirs because they have so much political power. UVA,Carolina,Duke,etc It won't solve anything. Taking the Big East bid away is just a way of saying they will try to get 3 SEC teams in. The ACC is like the Big East in that it is a basketball conference first then football. The Duke coach was talking about how great it would be to add PItt and Syracuse to the ACC for basketball even though they bring little to football. Quote Link to comment
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