krill Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 I am reading this article on Wired and trying to figure out why the Nebraska State Patrol has 3 amphibious assault vehicles. Just thinking back to my run ins with the law in high school, and how insanely unprofessional small town police in general were about such high crimes of smoking cigarettes and doing 30 in a 25...makes me sick to think those same people getting armored vehicles and military small arms. As one commentator said, boys with toys want to play with them. The entire police force in Germany fired 89 bullets in total last year...while we're doing this. http://www.wired.com...oom%29&pid=1303 Link to comment
ZRod Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 Acquired almost three years ago, their highest achievement has been helping with a flood last year and with a shooting a couple of weeks ago. Right, because a boat or a helicopter was probably too little show of force for the floods. We need an amphibious assault vehicle to show mother nature that we're serious! Link to comment
strigori Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 If my timeline is right, this trend started after the bank robbers in CA used assault rifles and body armor, and the cops had .22s for the most part. And a complete inability to aim for the head... No many if not most cruisers have a M-16 variant instead of just a shotgun. Link to comment
HSKR Posted June 27, 2012 Share Posted June 27, 2012 That thing really needs a blackshirts insignia on that side of it. Then it would be perfect. Link to comment
walksalone Posted June 27, 2012 Share Posted June 27, 2012 I guess I'd have an easier time with that if it were a city with a large population or exceedingly high crime rate... Link to comment
Excel Posted June 27, 2012 Share Posted June 27, 2012 We have the technology....just do it already. Link to comment
ZRod Posted June 27, 2012 Share Posted June 27, 2012 I guess I'd have an easier time with that if it were a city with a large population or exceedingly high crime rate... That's exactly what I was thinking. There is almost no reason why any place in Nebraska outside of Omaha and possibly Lincoln would need that vehicle. Lincoln is even a stretch to me, but I don't think the state p has any need for those vehicles. It's a waste of money and frankly It's a little frightening to think the state police are militarizing. I'm not a conspiracy guy but it's kind of scary to think about, reminds me of all those books/movies/games where the state takes over and rules the people. Link to comment
strigori Posted June 27, 2012 Share Posted June 27, 2012 I guess I'd have an easier time with that if it were a city with a large population or exceedingly high crime rate... That's exactly what I was thinking. There is almost no reason why any place in Nebraska outside of Omaha and possibly Lincoln would need that vehicle. Lincoln is even a stretch to me, but I don't think the state p has any need for those vehicles. It's a waste of money and frankly It's a little frightening to think the state police are militarizing. I'm not a conspiracy guy but it's kind of scary to think about, reminds me of all those books/movies/games where the state takes over and rules the people. Nah, I wouldn't worry about the states taking over people. Mega corps are the ones more likely to do it. Link to comment
walksalone Posted June 27, 2012 Share Posted June 27, 2012 I guess I'd have an easier time with that if it were a city with a large population or exceedingly high crime rate... That's exactly what I was thinking. There is almost no reason why any place in Nebraska outside of Omaha and possibly Lincoln would need that vehicle. Lincoln is even a stretch to me, but I don't think the state p has any need for those vehicles. It's a waste of money and frankly It's a little frightening to think the state police are militarizing. I'm not a conspiracy guy but it's kind of scary to think about, reminds me of all those books/movies/games where the state takes over and rules the people. Nah, I wouldn't worry about the states taking over people. Mega corps are the ones more likely to do it. I'm not worried about the militarization, I'm more concerned about that being a big ass waste of money. All that really is, is a police chief being able to show off to other chief's, that "his" is bigger than theirs... Link to comment
krill Posted June 27, 2012 Author Share Posted June 27, 2012 I'm not worried about the militarization, I'm more concerned about that being a big ass waste of money. All that really is, is a police chief being able to show off to other chief's, that "his" is bigger than theirs... Thing is PD's are acquiring this surplus equipment at little or no cost from the pentagon, but it cost a lot to maintain helicopters and armored vehicles. So it's like a double whammy to tax payers. I don't understand why the heavy equipment is not being transferred to the national guard for use by trained personnel or sold to friendly nations that actually need it for military use. If I were living in a town the size of Hastings, and the PD acquired an armored personnel carrier, I'd find it more than alarming. I also have no doubt that survivalist groups are seeing this as a loophole for Posse Comitatus laws and something really bad is gona happen, outweighing any possible good a PD having this equipment may do. Link to comment
walksalone Posted June 27, 2012 Share Posted June 27, 2012 I'm not worried about the militarization, I'm more concerned about that being a big ass waste of money. All that really is, is a police chief being able to show off to other chief's, that "his" is bigger than theirs... Thing is PD's are acquiring this surplus equipment at little or no cost from the pentagon, but it cost a lot to maintain helicopters and armored vehicles. So it's like a double whammy to tax payers. I don't understand why the heavy equipment is not being transferred to the national guard for use by trained personnel or sold to friendly nations that actually need it for military use. If I were living in a town the size of Hastings, and the PD acquired an armored personnel carrier, I'd find it more than alarming. I also have no doubt that survivalist groups are seeing this as a loophole for Posse Comitatus laws and something really bad is gona happen, outweighing any possible good a PD having this equipment may do. Yeah, people sometimes fail to realize, to keep a Blackhawk up for an hour of flight time for example, costs a couple thousand dollars. It's not like you can take that APC to midas to get the brakes and exhaust checked out... 1 Link to comment
carlfense Posted June 27, 2012 Share Posted June 27, 2012 I'm not worried about the militarization, I'm more concerned about that being a big ass waste of money. All that really is, is a police chief being able to show off to other chief's, that "his" is bigger than theirs... Thing is PD's are acquiring this surplus equipment at little or no cost from the pentagon, but it cost a lot to maintain helicopters and armored vehicles. So it's like a double whammy to tax payers. I don't understand why the heavy equipment is not being transferred to the national guard for use by trained personnel or sold to friendly nations that actually need it for military use. If I were living in a town the size of Hastings, and the PD acquired an armored personnel carrier, I'd find it more than alarming. I also have no doubt that survivalist groups are seeing this as a loophole for Posse Comitatus laws and something really bad is gona happen, outweighing any possible good a PD having this equipment may do. Yeah, people sometimes fail to realize, to keep a Blackhawk up for an hour of flight time for example, costs a couple thousand dollars. It's not like you can take that APC to midas to get the brakes and exhaust checked out... Link to comment
Omaha-Husker Posted June 27, 2012 Share Posted June 27, 2012 I am pretty sure one of those things were in Alliance during the standoff. Link to comment
strigori Posted June 27, 2012 Share Posted June 27, 2012 Unless some of these towns have a much higher number of police per capita than Omaha, wouldn't one of those things pretty much carry the whole police force? Yeah that thing was at the standoff, my question is where was the sniper. An APC for one dude with a gun is a bit of overkill. Link to comment
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