Thousands of barrels of oil leak from pipeline

[BigRedBuster]

If you start with a barrel of crude oil, how many barrels of refined products do you end up with?

[HSKR]

What point? The fact that the guy broke the law by not calling into diggers hotline. It is his own stupidity that he got in the trouble he did. As far as property goes, what do you have to say about other utility companies using these same lands to put their lines through. Easement is easement whether it is for oil or fibers.

 

The local people and possibly even the land owner themselves usually get benefit from the other utilities. Very few people in the entire United States will get a benefit from this pipe line.

 

and how exactly do they benefit when the same oil is rolling down the railroad instead? More noise, stopped traffic and diesel exhaust to breath?

[NUance]

If you start with a barrel of crude oil, how many barrels of refined products do you end up with?

One barrel of crude oil contains 42 gallons. Here is what it makes: LINK

 

product__/__gallons

Gasoline __19.3

Distillate Fuel Oil (Inc. Home Heating and Diesel Fuel) 9.83

Kerosene Type Jet Fuel 4.24

Residual Fuel Oil 2.10

Petroleum Coke 2.10

Liquified Refinery Gases 1.89

Still Gas 1.81

Asphalt and Road Oil 1.13

Petrochemical Feed Supplies 0.97

Lubricants 0.46

Kerosene 0.21

Waxes 0.04

Aviation Fuel 0.04

Other Products 0.34

Processing Gain 2.47

[BigRedBuster]

If you start with a barrel of crude oil, how many barrels of refined products do you end up with?

One barrel of crude oil contains 42 gallons. Here is what it makes: LINK

 

product__/__gallons

Gasoline __19.3

Distillate Fuel Oil (Inc. Home Heating and Diesel Fuel) 9.83

Kerosene Type Jet Fuel 4.24

Residual Fuel Oil 2.10

Petroleum Coke 2.10

Liquified Refinery Gases 1.89

Still Gas 1.81

Asphalt and Road Oil 1.13

Petrochemical Feed Supplies 0.97

Lubricants 0.46

Kerosene 0.21

Waxes 0.04

Aviation Fuel 0.04

Other Products 0.34

Processing Gain 2.47

 

 

If I added that right, you get 46.93 gallons out of 42 gallons.

[sd'sker]

If you start with a barrel of crude oil, how many barrels of refined products do you end up with?

One barrel of crude oil contains 42 gallons. Here is what it makes: LINK

 

product__/__gallons

Gasoline __19.3

Distillate Fuel Oil (Inc. Home Heating and Diesel Fuel) 9.83

Kerosene Type Jet Fuel 4.24

Residual Fuel Oil 2.10

Petroleum Coke 2.10

Liquified Refinery Gases 1.89

Still Gas 1.81

Asphalt and Road Oil 1.13

Petrochemical Feed Supplies 0.97

Lubricants 0.46

Kerosene 0.21

Waxes 0.04

Aviation Fuel 0.04

Other Products 0.34

Processing Gain 2.47

 

 

If I added that right, you get 46.93 gallons out of 42 gallons.

that's why it is so valuable.

[knapplc]

Pretty sure that overage is due to the additives they put in for volatility/stability, etc. I'd bet those numbers are pretty accurate.

[BigRedBuster]

So, let's say 100% of imports are then refined and exported. I know that isn't going to be the case because it all gets mixed with domestic oil......but play along.

 

Then, we automatically would be a net exporter of petroleum products and still, very few people in the US would benefit from this.

[Stumpy1]

BigRedBuster...is your beef with the pipeline because of the possibility of the oil being exported? If so, I can agree. If it is about building the pipeline in general, then be prepared to be pissed cause another pipeline is going to start construction in the next 2 months that will supply Lincoln with its gas and diesel. The current lines are being abandoned because the lines that feed them are going to be turned into Natural Gas lines.

[BigRedBuster]

BigRedBuster...is your beef with the pipeline because of the possibility of the oil being exported? If so, I can agree. If it is about building the pipeline in general, then be prepared to be pissed cause another pipeline is going to start construction in the next 2 months that will supply Lincoln with its gas and diesel. The current lines are being abandoned because the lines that feed them are going to be turned into Natural Gas lines.

 

 

Yes...I have a problem because most if not all will be exported. They are basically using our land to export their oil with no benefit to the land owners or the US in general.

 

Now, I don't have a problem with a pipeline like you describe where it is used as infrastructure to benefit people in the US.

[carlfense]

Just Greed and Politics. Pipeline defects have been identified along a 60-mile stretch of the southern segment of the Keystone XL pipeline, north of the Sabine River in Texas (Winnsboro, Texas). 
Sections of pipe have dents, faulty welds, and pin-holes in some sections enough to see daylight through.

The installers have been digging up parts of the new southern segment of the Keystone pipeline that only recently have been installed. 
It seems that the existing leg of the Keystone has spilled more oil in its first year than any other first-year pipeline in U.S. history (HuffPost).

 

With the tens of billions of dollars this pipeline will make for these companies each year, you’d think they’d spend a little extra to build it right.

 

. . .

 

All in all, the cost/benefit is not in America’s favor.

 

http://www.forbes.co...ne-xl-pipeline/

 

And now KXL has lost that bastion of liberalism . . . Forbes.

[Conga3]

Just Greed and Politics. Pipeline defects have been identified along a 60-mile stretch of the southern segment of the Keystone XL pipeline, north of the Sabine River in Texas (Winnsboro, Texas). 
Sections of pipe have dents, faulty welds, and pin-holes in some sections enough to see daylight through.

The installers have been digging up parts of the new southern segment of the Keystone pipeline that only recently have been installed. 
It seems that the existing leg of the Keystone has spilled more oil in its first year than any other first-year pipeline in U.S. history (HuffPost).

 

With the tens of billions of dollars this pipeline will make for these companies each year, you’d think they’d spend a little extra to build it right.

 

. . .

 

All in all, the cost/benefit is not in America’s favor.

 

http://www.forbes.co...ne-xl-pipeline/

 

And now KXL has lost that bastion of liberalism . . . Forbes.

Wow. Mindless bloviating. Don't bother clicking link.

 

The summary is -- There is no news to report on the XL Pipeline...but I've got opinions! - author

 

If you want to read the ramblings of hack, click the link.

 

Come on Carlfense... filter out some of this stuff.

[carlfense]

Wow. Mindless bloviating. Don't bother clicking link.

 

The summary is -- There is no news to report on the XL Pipeline...but I've got opinions! - author

 

If you want to read the ramblings of hack, click the link.

 

Come on Carlfense... filter out some of this stuff.

You knew about the defects in the southern stretch of the XL?

[Conga3]

Wow. Mindless bloviating. Don't bother clicking link.

 

The summary is -- There is no news to report on the XL Pipeline...but I've got opinions! - author

 

If you want to read the ramblings of hack, click the link.

 

Come on Carlfense... filter out some of this stuff.

You knew about the defects in the southern stretch of the XL?

The Forbes author is getting his 'news' from an 'article' written way back in May. It wasn't even really news back then. A newly installed pipeline stretching 60 miles was inspected for anomalies, and those found were attended to. News? Not hardly. Pipelines require inspection, maintenance and repair - even NEW pipeline.

 

It'd be news if, 'The first time EVER, a 60 mile pipeline was installed without any welding anomalies.'

 

The original article tried to make a gloom and doom scenario, focusing on the "concerned landowners" observing the repairs -- stating the last pipeline built had leaks (confusing readers probably thinking the new pipeline is leaking already) -- without any sort of background on accepted norms in the industry, comments from industry experts, or regulatory officials.

 

The Forbes article, takes that old article --- already containing a bunch of mindless and lazy extrapolation -- and multiplies it profusely. The author would have you believe...that since a new pipe is already being repaired (normal OP) and another pipe had leaked, disaster will ensue because GREED.

 

It's not a news article. It's simply the ramblings of some bent blogger looking to rehash emotional keyword phrases to get hits and fill publishing quotas.

 

Lazy and irresponsible.

[Stumpy1]

All new oil and refined product pipelines have to be inspected before put into service. If they are not; PHSMA, EPA, DOT, OSHA and a lot of others will have a heyday with the company installing and the company that owns the pipeline. Pipelines that are used to transport " hazardous " materials need to be inspected yearly for defects. This is a new rule that they implemented in 2010 I believe. It used to be every 5 years, which in my eyes was to long.

[carlfense]

The Forbes author is getting his 'news' from an 'article' written way back in May. It wasn't even really news back then. A newly installed pipeline stretching 60 miles was inspected for anomalies, and those found were attended to. News? Not hardly. Pipelines require inspection, maintenance and repair - even NEW pipeline.

 

It'd be news if, 'The first time EVER, a 60 mile pipeline was installed without any welding anomalies.'

 

The original article tried to make a gloom and doom scenario, focusing on the "concerned landowners" observing the repairs -- stating the last pipeline built had leaks (confusing readers probably thinking the new pipeline is leaking already) -- without any sort of background on accepted norms in the industry, comments from industry experts, or regulatory officials.

 

The Forbes article, takes that old article --- already containing a bunch of mindless and lazy extrapolation -- and multiplies it profusely. The author would have you believe...that since a new pipe is already being repaired (normal OP) and another pipe had leaked, disaster will ensue because GREED.

 

It's not a news article. It's simply the ramblings of some bent blogger looking to rehash emotional keyword phrases to get hits and fill publishing quotas.

 

Lazy and irresponsible.

And what about this part?


It seems that the existing leg of the Keystone has spilled more oil in its first year than any other first-year pipeline in U.S. history.

If you read/remembered that article from May you've got a better memory than I.