Conga3 Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 The outrage I see some folks having disheartens me. It's like they don't want to know WHY the judge sentenced the kid to probation or IF the sentence is even out of the ordinary to begin with. -- Curiosity is being replaced with convenience. this is kind of funny, though. because you are just as guilty as relying on 'convenience' than curiosity. you are reading more into what has been reported, yet you have not demonstrated any reason to doubt that reporting other than it is possible that the judge did not consider the bogus 'affluenza' or that the judge would have sentenced the way he did regardless. My point is we don't know what the judge weighed in his decision. We only have the prosecutors/victims version of events and our own biases to fill in the blanks. I'm curious to know if the sentence is typical of the situation or if it was extraordinary. I'm curious to know if the judge explained his ruling. Link to comment
sd'sker Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 I'm curious to know if the sentence is typical of the situation or if it was extraordinary. I'm curious to know if the judge explained his ruling. but you are assuming that the 'affluenza' was not necessarily relevant to his sentencing and that this may be a standard sentence? would that be your bias filling in the blank? carlfense did post an example of a sentence a juvenile received for manslaughter by the same judge. Link to comment
carlfense Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 Your opinion assumes the judge is weak minded and was swayed by the power and wealth of the family and the defense testimony of some sort of "rich-kid" disease, and the prosecutor's version of events might as well be gospel. .5 out of 4 isn't too bad, right? Link to comment
Conga3 Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 I'm curious to know if the sentence is typical of the situation or if it was extraordinary. I'm curious to know if the judge explained his ruling. but you are assuming that the 'affluenza' was not necessarily relevant to his sentencing and that this may be a standard sentence? would that be your bias filling in the blank? carlfense did post an example of a sentence a juvenile received for manslaughter by the same judge. It's hard to self-diagnose your own biases, so maybe. I generally have respect for judges and very little respect for news reporters. A judge weighs many things we'll never know about that are revealed in a case. A news reporter grabs whatever tidbit makes the best headline and shapes a story around it. --- This has been picked up nationally, so much more is coming out... Maybe we'll see a transcript of the ruling..or the judge's explanation. Link to comment
carlfense Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 My point is we don't know what the judge weighed in his decision. Which is different (and certainly more defensible) than what you were claiming previously. I'm curious to know if the judge explained his ruling. She (I think) has not and I would be somewhat surprised if she does in the future. Link to comment
Conga3 Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 My point is we don't know what the judge weighed in his decision. Which is different (and certainly more defensible) than what you were claiming previously. I'm curious to know if the judge explained his ruling. She (I think) has not and I would be somewhat surprised if she does in the future. She could have a crush on Anderson Cooper - so who knows. Link to comment
Conga3 Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 Anderson Cooper 3 part interview with the psychologist. (almost 30 minutes long) http://edition.cnn.com/2013/12/12/health/affluenza-youth/index.html?hpt=hp_inthenews Pretty decent interview. AC asks the emotional and leading questions that the common folk want answered - and the DR does a good job at providing answers when he could. Link to comment
StPaulHusker Posted December 13, 2013 Author Share Posted December 13, 2013 While the victims families will mourn the loss of their loved ones for the rest of their lives, all this kid has to do is obey the law for the next 10 years. Which is what he should be doing anyway. But clearly that is difficult to do when you come from a family of money. Seems like an even trade. Link to comment
Conga3 Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 While the victims families will mourn the loss of their loved ones for the rest of their lives, all this kid has to do is obey the law for the next 10 years. Which is what he should be doing anyway. But clearly that is difficult to do when you come from a family of money. Seems like an even trade. You prefer lex talionis? Link to comment
StPaulHusker Posted December 13, 2013 Author Share Posted December 13, 2013 While the victims families will mourn the loss of their loved ones for the rest of their lives, all this kid has to do is obey the law for the next 10 years. Which is what he should be doing anyway. But clearly that is difficult to do when you come from a family of money. Seems like an even trade. You prefer lex talionis? I prefer the punishment fit the crime. I don't think that is too much to ask. 1 Link to comment
Stumpy1 Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 My roommate in college had a cousin that got 3 yrs in prison for vehicular manslaughter in Texas. The story on it was he was heading home from an outing with some friends and ran head on into a car coming the other way. The other driver died from injuries and was the one that swerved in front of my friends cousin. He got charged with the crime because he had alcohol in his system even though it was within tolerance to drive. The other guy was shown to be twice the legal limit. I really want to believe in the justice system but more and more stories are coming out like the one this thread is about that make me doubt it. Link to comment
tschu Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 The proper sentence would have been more like what that Schlichtemeier kid got a couple of years ago for the drunken I-29 motorcycle massacre accident. 50 years in prison. Link to comment
C N Red Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 "Affluenza?" Thats the dumbest sh#t ive ever heard and any psycowhatever that uses it as an excuse for a kid should be flogged. Copout bullsh#t! Say what it really is! Poor parenting. Can parents really stop their 16 yo from getting wasted and driving? Not really. But, can the parents instill in the kid work ethic and make sure they dont have a sense of entitlement? Yes. Parents are so easy on their kids these days its ridiculous. I refuse to be that parent. I show tough love. Teach a lesson when its due and show love when its due. My mom accuses me of being too hard ass and i have to remind her i am parenting just the way her and my dad did me and i feel i turned out okay. It seems when you become a grandparent you soften i guess. Link to comment
AR Husker Fan Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 Judge orders Texas teen Ethan Couch to rehab for driving drunk, killing 4 Link to comment
Mavric Posted April 13, 2016 Share Posted April 13, 2016 "You're not getting out of jail today," State District Judge Wayne Salvant told the Texas teen, sentencing him to 720 days — one 180-day sentence for each of the four victims he killed in a June 2013 drunk-driving accident. Couch, who turned 19 on Monday, received 10 years' probation in juvenile court following the car crash. He was accused of violating the terms of his juvenile probation after a video surfaced online last December that appeared to show him at a party where alcohol was served. He and his mother fled to Mexico, evading authorities for several weeks. Link Link to comment
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