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4 minutes ago, commando said:

archy is 100% in support of trump wanting any border improvements avoided until after the election.  to hell with what the border patrol says they want.

Despite your statement being complete bulls#!t, let’s talk about the border patrol and what they want.  
 

They want a border wall and Commando does not.   To hell with what the border patrol says they want amirite!!!  Commando doesn’t want to solve the problem in an election year to blame republicans.   Is that how we do it?   Fun stuff. 

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2 minutes ago, Archy1221 said:

Despite your statement being complete bulls#!t, let’s talk about the border patrol and what they want.  
 

They want a border wall and Commando does not.   To hell with what the border patrol says they want amirite!!!  Commando doesn’t want to solve the problem in an election year to blame republicans.   Is that how we do it?   Fun stuff. 

Commando actually supports a bill that Republicans said they wanted and that vastly strengthens our border security.

 

But....we must help Trump in the election.

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i wonder who has the majority (and thus..the responsibility) to fix the border right now if we listen to the former president?  of course the former guy now orders congress to do nothing so here we are...

 

 

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4 minutes ago, Archy1221 said:

Despite your statement being complete bulls#!t, let’s talk about the border patrol and what they want.  
 

They want a border wall and Commando does not.   To hell with what the border patrol says they want amirite!!!  Commando doesn’t want to solve the problem in an election year to blame republicans.   Is that how we do it?   Fun stuff. 

some sections of wall are needed...but america can't afford to build a wall from california to texas...unless you really want to see what a budget deficit  can look like

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9 minutes ago, Archy1221 said:

Despite your statement being complete bulls#!t, let’s talk about the border patrol and what they want.  
 

They want a border wall and Commando does not.   To hell with what the border patrol says they want amirite!!!  Commando doesn’t want to solve the problem in an election year to blame republicans.   Is that how we do it?   Fun stuff. 

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/new-immigration-bill-senate-bipartisan-border-patrol-endorsement-rcna137354

 

“While not perfect, the Border Act of 2024 is a step in the right direction and is far better than the current status quo,” Brandon Judd, president of the council, said in the statement. “This is why the National Border Patrol Council endorses this bill and hopes for its quick passage.”

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18 minutes ago, BigRedBuster said:
31 minutes ago, Archy1221 said:

 

Most of the immigrants coming across are young males.  The bill says that these will not be released and it gives money to increase detention centers.  But...you keep totally ignoring that part.  It also strengthens the asylum laws so fewer people can claim asylum. 

The bill says 5,000 encounters can happen before the border gets shut down (and Murphy says it actually won’t!).  So riddle me this…….

 

why do we need to wait till 5,000 encounters happen for the US to do what it should in the first place?  You know one fun fact….the 5,000 number isn’t even 5,000 because it doesn’t include non-contingent country illegal immigrants.   You still never even attempt to answer this question.  The next question you can answer is if they have the ability to shut down illegals immigration once 5,000 encounters a day happens, why not do that now?  
 

Those single males you speak of, guess what they are gonna all of a sudden have?   Yep you guessed it, a “wife” or a “kid” 

 

As far as the border patrol goes, guess what else they want????   Yep you are right, a completed border wall.   But not Buster!  So when do we listen to the border patrol and when do we not?  

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3 minutes ago, Archy1221 said:

The bill says 5,000 encounters can happen before the border gets shut down (and Murphy says it actually won’t!).  So riddle me this…….

 

why do we need to wait till 5,000 encounters happen for the US to do what it should in the first place?  You know one fun fact….the 5,000 number isn’t even 5,000 because it doesn’t include non-contingent country illegal immigrants.   You still never even attempt to answer this question.  The next question you can answer is if they have the ability to shut down illegals immigration once 5,000 encounters a day happens, why not do that now?  
 

Those single males you speak of, guess what they are gonna all of a sudden have?   Yep you guessed it, a “wife” or a “kid” 

 

As far as the border patrol goes, guess what else they want????   Yep you are right, a completed border wall.   But not Buster!  So when do we listen to the border patrol and when do we not?  

Because it's a stupid question meant only to stop the bill to help Trump.  Republicans asked for this.  It really doesn't matter if the number is 2000, or 3000 or 5000.  The bill gives the border patrol major help in securing the border.  That's why the endorse it.  The only reason Republicans are against it now is because the leader of your party said "NO" to help him in an election.

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Just now, BigRedBuster said:

Because it's a stupid question meant only to stop the bill to help Trump.  Republicans asked for this.  It really doesn't matter if the number is 2000, or 3000 or 5000.  The bill gives the border patrol major help in securing the border.  That's why the endorse it.  The only reason Republicans are against it now is because the leader of your party said "NO" to help him in an election.

yep....the republican party (correction....MAGA party) only exists now to be trump fluffers

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8 minutes ago, commando said:

some sections of wall are needed...but america can't afford to build a wall from california to texas...unless you really want to see what a budget deficit  can look like

America could certainly afford to build it all the way across, it’s just not needed all the way across.   
 

Some sections of the immigration bill are needed…Some are not.   Let’s get rid of the ones that are not and get a bill passed 

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1 minute ago, Archy1221 said:

America could certainly afford to build it all the way across, it’s just not needed all the way across.   
 

Some sections of the immigration bill are needed…Some are not.   Let’s get rid of the ones that are not and get a bill passed 

But.....we must wait till after the election to pass the bill Republicans wanted.

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