Israeli military gets revenge.

[NUance]

Palestinian death toll rises to 76 as Israel hits Gaza over rocket fire

BY NIDAL AL-MUGHRABI AND JEFFREY HELLER GAZA/JERUSALEM Thu Jul 10, 2014 10:25am EDT

(Reuters) - At least 76 Palestinians, most of them civilians, have been killed in Israel's Gaza offensive, Palestinian officials said on Thursday, and militants kept up rocket attacks on Tel Aviv and other cities in warfare showing no signs of ending soon.

Eight Palestinian family members, including five children, were killed in an early morning air strike that destroyed at least two homes in Khan Younis in southern Gaza, the Palestinian Health ministry said.

Israel's military made no comment on what would be the deadliest strike since the offensive began on Tuesday.

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So, in response to three Israeli teenagers getting killed last month the Israel military has now launched 750 retaliatory rocket strikes killing around 76 Palestinians, including a family of eight with five children. Last week a group of Israelis (private citizens; not soldiers) kidnapped a 16 year old Palestinian boy and burned him to death. Will someone please explain how this is any different than terrorism? Why do we continue to put our own country in jeopardy by supporting Israel? I guess I just don't understand what sort of stranglehold Israel has on America that would warrant us to continue funding and supporting them in the face of activities like this.

 

The longer this goes on, the more I'm convinced that neither side is in the right. Both sides have dirty hands. We should cut Israel loose and let them fend for themselves. And fund themselves too. If Israel was on their own in the Middle East I'll bet they'd find a way to make peace in short order.

 

 

edit: Deleted "Murders family of eight" from the thread title. Israel has now gone far, far beyond revenge for the three Israeli teenagers by murdering a family of eight, and blowing up a bunch of teenage boys playing soccer on the beach. /sad

 

[knapplc]

The two things that make severing ties with Israel difficult are, first, the ungodly amounts of money they and their supporters dump into our political system. They're in the back pockets of every single major Senator and Congressman, and most (if not all) presidents. Nixon, Carter, Clinton, George W, and Obama have all visited Israel. A brief google shows congressional visits to Israel by then-Senator Obama, Rand Paul, Ted Cruz, Jim Risch, Pat Toomey, Rick Perry, Hillary Clinton, Kelly Ayotte, Joe Donnelly, Stephen Lynch, etc. The list is long, and that's just on the front page of a google search. These people make a beeline to where the money comes from, pledging support, pledging arms and alliances.

 

The second reason it would be difficult, if not outright dangerous, to cut Israel loose are their nukes. Leave Israel to its own devices and they probably last another couple of decades, even against the massed might of their neighbors. They've kicked ass in several major conflicts over the past near-century, but can that last without strong support from the West? Doubtful. If Israel falls, what happens to the nukes? Who, in that region, do we trust with them? And what is the likelihood that one or more of the former Israeli nukes finds its way to a U.S. interest, if not directly to our soil?

[NUance]

The two things that make severing ties with Israel difficult are, first, the ungodly amounts of money they and their supporters dump into our political system. They're in the back pockets of every single major Senator and Congressman, and most (if not all) presidents. Nixon, Carter, Clinton, George W, and Obama have all visited Israel. A brief google shows congressional visits to Israel by then-Senator Obama, Rand Paul, Ted Cruz, Jim Risch, Pat Toomey, Rick Perry, Hillary Clinton, Kelly Ayotte, Joe Donnelly, Stephen Lynch, etc. The list is long, and that's just on the front page of a google search. These people make a beeline to where the money comes from, pledging support, pledging arms and alliances.

 

The second reason it would be difficult, if not outright dangerous, to cut Israel loose are their nukes. Leave Israel to its own devices and they probably last another couple of decades, even against the massed might of their neighbors. They've kicked ass in several major conflicts over the past near-century, but can that last without strong support from the West? Doubtful. If Israel falls, what happens to the nukes? Who, in that region, do we trust with them? And what is the likelihood that one or more of the former Israeli nukes finds its way to a U.S. interest, if not directly to our soil?

 

Yeah, what a mess. We can't rein them in. And we can't cut them loose. How did we let ourselves get into this pickle anyway?

[TAKODA]

 

The two things that make severing ties with Israel difficult are, first, the ungodly amounts of money they and their supporters dump into our political system. They're in the back pockets of every single major Senator and Congressman, and most (if not all) presidents. Nixon, Carter, Clinton, George W, and Obama have all visited Israel. A brief google shows congressional visits to Israel by then-Senator Obama, Rand Paul, Ted Cruz, Jim Risch, Pat Toomey, Rick Perry, Hillary Clinton, Kelly Ayotte, Joe Donnelly, Stephen Lynch, etc. The list is long, and that's just on the front page of a google search. These people make a beeline to where the money comes from, pledging support, pledging arms and alliances.

 

The second reason it would be difficult, if not outright dangerous, to cut Israel loose are their nukes. Leave Israel to its own devices and they probably last another couple of decades, even against the massed might of their neighbors. They've kicked ass in several major conflicts over the past near-century, but can that last without strong support from the West? Doubtful. If Israel falls, what happens to the nukes? Who, in that region, do we trust with them? And what is the likelihood that one or more of the former Israeli nukes finds its way to a U.S. interest, if not directly to our soil?

 

Yeah, what a mess. We can't rein them in. And we can't cut them loose. How did we let ourselves get into this pickle anyway?

 

 

It's Bo's fault! jk...

 

Sometimes we just have to play the cards we are dealt. Their wars in the East have been going on for 1000's of years and it will probably go on until the end, whenever that is!

[LukeinNE]

Let me get this progression straight:

 

1. Palestinian thugs kidnap and murder three innocent Israelis.

2. Hamas and Fatah openly approve of this barbarism.

3. Israel launches a heavy-handed manhunt to recover the boys.

4. Innocent Palestinian is murdered by Israelis.

5. Israel, as civilized countries tend to do, arrests, rather than celebrates the murderers.

6. Hamas launches hundreds of rockets at Israel's civilian population.

7. Rockets falling from the sky being detrimental to national security, Israel responds.

8. Israel is evil and the only reason nobody but a chosen few sages can see it is that teh Jewz have bought our media and our politicians.

 

That about right?

[Abdullah the Butcher]

Hamas is firing rockets into Israel and Israel is retaliating, read the f'ing article.

 

 

Israel says it has struck more than 750 targets in an offensive intended to halt persistent rocket fire at its own civilian population, which escalated after Israeli forces arrested hundreds of Hamas activists in the occupied West Bank following the abduction of the Jewish teenagers.

 

It accuses Hamas Islamists of deliberately putting innocent Palestinians in harm's way by placing weaponry and gunmen in residential areas.

[NUance]

Hamas is firing rockets into Israel and Israel is retaliating, read the f'ing article.

 

 

Israel says it has struck more than 750 targets in an offensive intended to halt persistent rocket fire at its own civilian population, which escalated after Israeli forces arrested hundreds of Hamas activists in the occupied West Bank following the abduction of the Jewish teenagers.

 

It accuses Hamas Islamists of deliberately putting innocent Palestinians in harm's way by placing weaponry and gunmen in residential areas.

 

 

 

Do know what the Iron Dome is, how it works, and who largely paid for it? By contrast, the rockets Hamas is firing are little more than oversized Roman candles; there have been no Israeli deaths due to the Hamas rockets. Perhaps you should read the f'ing article yourself. Here, let me help you:

 

Rocket salvoes on Israel - the military said 442 projectiles have been fired since Tuesday, including nearly 100 on Thursday alone - have caused no fatalities or serious injuries. That has been due in part to interception by Israel's partly U.S.-funded Iron Dome aerial defence system.

 

[carlfense]

Hamas fires rockets and kills no one = terrorism.

Israel fires rockets and kills many = justice.

[Abdullah the Butcher]

So because Israel has a better anti rocket defense they should do nothing?

[LukeinNE]

Hamas fires rockets and kills no one = terrorism.

Israel fires rockets and kills many = justice.

 

That Hamas lacks the ability to carry out their genocidal inclinations is irrelevant to the classification of their (and Israel's) actions.

[carlfense]

That Hamas lacks the ability to carry out their genocidal inclinations is irrelevant to the classification of their (and Israel's) actions.

I'm not defending Hamas. Are you defending Israel?

[LukeinNE]

 

That Hamas lacks the ability to carry out their genocidal inclinations is irrelevant to the classification of their (and Israel's) actions.

I'm not defending Hamas. Are you defending Israel?

 

 

That depends on what they stand accused of.

[carlfense]

That depends on what they stand accused of.

Sure. From the OP:

 

The longer this goes on, the more I'm convinced that neither side is in the right. Both sides have dirty hands. We should cut Israel loose and let them fend for themselves. And fund themselves too. If Israel was on their own in the Middle East I'll bet they'd find a way to make peace in short order.

[Abdullah the Butcher]

 

That depends on what they stand accused of.

Sure. From the OP:

The longer this goes on, the more I'm convinced that neither side is in the right. Both sides have dirty hands. We should cut Israel loose and let them fend for themselves. And fund themselves too. If Israel was on their own in the Middle East I'll bet they'd find a way to make peace in short order.

No they wouldn't because you have crazy a$$hole$ like ISIS and Hamas who don't want anything but jihad.

[carlfense]

No they wouldn't because you have crazy a$$hole$ like ISIS and Hamas who don't want anything but jihad.

Nothing says you want peace quite like 750 rocket strikes.