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You guys are pu&&y. I like Bo even more.

 

Look at almost any thread, and if you think you "fans" are not more negative and childish the Bo, your delusional. SE sounds like a complete loser.

 

Bring it.

I agree about liking Bo more from this, I know that's not popular...and I am glad he's gone, but still nice to see someone who doesn't just do the "company" good-bye and act like everything was fine. Why do we have to be so "PC" all the time, it's like everyone freaks out when someone speaks their mind. If he was working at McDonalds and left that job with a rant like this, we would all say "good job" but when it's a university position and comes with a million dollar salary everyone thinks he has to act a certain way...I like his passion.
Big difference between passion and being a childish jerk off who had the support of one of the most loyal fan bases in the country even after he crapped on us by calling us fair weather and telling us to f ourselves.
Had the support of one of the most loyal fan base? You must be joking. There was a clear divide. (and for the last time, he wasn't refering to all fans in the quote you mention).

How bad of a coach are you if you can't win unless 100% of the fan base supports you?

 

And which came first: The poor performances (on and off the field) or the erosion of fan support?

 

Again, what you Bolievers don't get is that it that your theory rests on the ridiculous proposition that half the fan base and the media and the administration arbitrarily and coincidentally all woke up one morning and decided to hate on Bo for no good reason, and that this spontaneous, widespread disdain for Bo manifested as poor results on the field that would not have otherwise occurred. It's truly insane.

Except that's not what I believe (and i doubt anyone believes). I just dont think it's easy to consistently win national championships, and that going 9-3 isn't the end of the world. Most fan bases would be good with having no less then 9 wins in each of the past 7 years. Look at Michigan, Florida, Texas, Usc, miami, etc. and compare how they have performed over that same period. Do you think they don't want to win? The point is its hard.

 

Yes, a lot of those loses hurt. Hurt bad (especially the ones against Wisconsin). But each of those teams also had tough losses. Look at Wisconsin on the championship game this year vs a third string QB with no real prior experience. 59-0. You don't think that hurt the fans of Wisconsin? That's the point.

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Sounds like it's all good:

 

"We have discussed the report with coach. We are confident that Coach will conduct himself accordingly moving forward"

 

http://www.vindy.com/news/2014/dec/18/ysu-issues-statement-pelinis-controversial-nebrask/

Sounds to me like the AD and President of Youngstown State are both p*****s and c***s. If they had any balls whatsoever, they would have stood up for Pelini. It seems clear to me that they don't support the program, those cowardly punk b****es. That statement sounds like it was written by a bunch of f*****g lawyers. No one with amy g*****n core values would know that's a bunch of b******t. If they don't like Pelini, they should do him a favor and just get rid of him.

Nice.

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You guys are pu&&y. I like Bo even more.

 

Look at almost any thread, and if you think you "fans" are not more negative and childish the Bo, your delusional. SE sounds like a complete loser.

 

Bring it.

I agree about liking Bo more from this, I know that's not popular...and I am glad he's gone, but still nice to see someone who doesn't just do the "company" good-bye and act like everything was fine. Why do we have to be so "PC" all the time, it's like everyone freaks out when someone speaks their mind. If he was working at McDonalds and left that job with a rant like this, we would all say "good job" but when it's a university position and comes with a million dollar salary everyone thinks he has to act a certain way...I like his passion.
Big difference between passion and being a childish jerk off who had the support of one of the most loyal fan bases in the country even after he crapped on us by calling us fair weather and telling us to f ourselves.
Had the support of one of the most loyal fan base? You must be joking. There was a clear divide. (and for the last time, he wasn't refering to all fans in the quote you mention).

How bad of a coach are you if you can't win unless 100% of the fan base supports you?

 

And which came first: The poor performances (on and off the field) or the erosion of fan support?

 

Again, what you Bolievers don't get is that it that your theory rests on the ridiculous proposition that half the fan base and the media and the administration arbitrarily and coincidentally all woke up one morning and decided to hate on Bo for no good reason, and that this spontaneous, widespread disdain for Bo manifested as poor results on the field that would not have otherwise occurred. It's truly insane.

Except that's not what I believe (and i doubt anyone believes). I just dont think it's easy to consistently win national championships, and that going 9-3 isn't the end of the world. Most fan bases would be good with having no less then 9 wins in each of the past 7 years. Look at Michigan, Florida, Texas, Usc, miami, etc. and compare how they have performed over that same period. Do you think they don't want to win? The point is its hard.

 

Yes, a lot of those loses hurt. Hurt bad (especially the ones against Wisconsin). But each of those teams also had tough losses. Look at Wisconsin on the championship game this year vs a third string QB with no real prior experience. 59-0. You don't think that hurt the fans of Wisconsin? That's the point.

 

 

I'm glad you brought up Wisconsin. How many CCGs has that program won over the past few years? How many Rose Bowl appearances? Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Michigan play in the Sugar Bowl during Hoke's tenure? Did Mack Brown play for a couple national titles and win one on the way?

 

Sure the blowout losses happen. But for most coaches, they are offset by championships or other tangible barometers of success. For Bo, there was nothing to offset those games. And the blowouts kept coming. Wisconsin's had one epic Pelini-style meltdown in the how long? Pelini was good for at least one a year.

 

Literally the only thing you could say about him is 9 wins. But at what cost? I would gladly take 10 straight 8-4 seasons if it meant no more than a rare blowout and, more importantly, a head coach that doesn't act like a complete asshat.

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My understanding it is a private conversation to his former players at an off campus meeting... My understanding non team required... So private meeting at a private site...

 

The guy got fired letting off steam. I think most people see it for what it is.

So let's call it for what it is. In his farewell speech, Bo attempted to turn his entire team against the administration and athletic department.

 

He led a chorus of sniggers as he called his boss, the NU athletic director, every name in the book. (Real cowardice, by the way)

 

He told players that this place is a (redacted), in part because of "a lot of the former players", among just about everything else.

 

After all the talk about what a miserable place it was, he suggested Nebraska players take a long hard look at if they'll be happy here and to transfer if they won't.

 

All of this is beyond horrifying. And plainly it was not the first time he's talked about this, or like this, to his team. That's the man the University of Nebraska employed for seven years to lead a group of over a hundred of its student-athletes, and to represent UNL in the homes of countless high school students around the country.

 

There's a lot of good things about Bo, too, but there's no getting around that this is who he is, and this is how he's treated this place and the charge he was given. I wish it weren't the case, but it is, and Bo alone is responsible for who he is.

So I'm just wondering, why is Bo telling his players to do what is best for them a bad thing? I still can't figure that one out.
Bo had his players first, not the university.

Actually, that's the controversy right there.

 

Seven years into the Bo Pelini era and Nebraska was not even contending for its division, one of the weakest in college football.

 

Brought in as a defensive specialist, Nebraska under Pelini racked up 7 of the 10 worst defensive performances in Husker history.

 

Fans and media had a problem with this.

 

At which point THEY became the problem. At least that's how it was presented to Husker players.

 

Yes, he had the players backs. Nobody else believed in them the way Bo Pelini did. If you want to know what we did wrong in our latest big game meltdown, don't look in the mirror, and for godsakes don't blame the coaches who love you so much. Blame unreasonable fan expectation and the AD who actively wants you to lose. And the World-Herald.

 

By his own admission, Bo had bunkered in at a place he openly hated and couldn't wait to leave. His best revenge would have been success, but he couldn't pull it off. All he could do was poison the well.

 

The irony, Dagerow, is that in this final rant Bo Pelini put Bo Pelini first. And that wasn't in the best interest of either the players or the fans, who loved this team long before Bo Pelini got here and will love them long after he's gone.

 

Oh that's right. He's gone.

 

Nevermind.

You made a number of good points there.

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You guys are pu&&y. I like Bo even more.

 

Look at almost any thread, and if you think you "fans" are not more negative and childish the Bo, your delusional. SE sounds like a complete loser.

 

Bring it.

I agree about liking Bo more from this, I know that's not popular...and I am glad he's gone, but still nice to see someone who doesn't just do the "company" good-bye and act like everything was fine. Why do we have to be so "PC" all the time, it's like everyone freaks out when someone speaks their mind. If he was working at McDonalds and left that job with a rant like this, we would all say "good job" but when it's a university position and comes with a million dollar salary everyone thinks he has to act a certain way...I like his passion.
Big difference between passion and being a childish jerk off who had the support of one of the most loyal fan bases in the country even after he crapped on us by calling us fair weather and telling us to f ourselves.
Had the support of one of the most loyal fan base? You must be joking. There was a clear divide. (and for the last time, he wasn't refering to all fans in the quote you mention).

How bad of a coach are you if you can't win unless 100% of the fan base supports you?

 

And which came first: The poor performances (on and off the field) or the erosion of fan support?

 

Again, what you Bolievers don't get is that it that your theory rests on the ridiculous proposition that half the fan base and the media and the administration arbitrarily and coincidentally all woke up one morning and decided to hate on Bo for no good reason, and that this spontaneous, widespread disdain for Bo manifested as poor results on the field that would not have otherwise occurred. It's truly insane.

Except that's not what I believe (and i doubt anyone believes). I just dont think it's easy to consistently win national championships, and that going 9-3 isn't the end of the world. Most fan bases would be good with having no less then 9 wins in each of the past 7 years. Look at Michigan, Florida, Texas, Usc, miami, etc. and compare how they have performed over that same period. Do you think they don't want to win? The point is its hard.

 

Yes, a lot of those loses hurt. Hurt bad (especially the ones against Wisconsin). But each of those teams also had tough losses. Look at Wisconsin on the championship game this year vs a third string QB with no real prior experience. 59-0. You don't think that hurt the fans of Wisconsin? That's the point.

I'm glad you brought up Wisconsin. How many CCGs has that program won over the past few years? How many Rose Bowl appearances? Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Michigan play in the Sugar Bowl during Hoke's tenure? Did Mack Brown play for a couple national titles and win one on the way?

 

Sure the blowout losses happen. But for most coaches, they are offset by championships or other tangible barometers of success. For Bo, there was nothing to offset those games. And the blowouts kept coming. Wisconsin's had one epic Pelini-style meltdown in the how long? Pelini was good for at least one a year.

 

Literally the only thing you could say about him is 9 wins. But at what cost? I would gladly take 10 straight 8-4 seasons if it meant no more than a rare blowout and, more importantly, a head coach that doesn't act like a complete asshat.

You are selectively pointing out things to highlight your point. I could easily do the same and show you substantially more heart ache for the teams I mentioned above.

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How do you feel about him lying about the circumstances of Osborne's departure?

 

I don't believe for one second that he lied about that. Did he go off the rails in other areas? Yeah. But, there was quite a bit of smoke regarding Harvey when Osborne abruptly announced his retirement. Harvey has quite the ego, and we know Tom won't throw anyone under the bus.
So you think Osborne is lying?

He resigned in leu of being forced out. It's a technicality, but it's not a lie.

 

Q: Were you forced out as A.D.?

Osborne: I wasnt forced out. I resigned. And thats the end of the story.

 

I don't trust Harvey at all, and I have little trust in Shawn.

And the fact that they didn't consult with Osborne before firing Bo should give you an indication of the amount of respect they have for his opinion.

 

Osborne is retired, why do we need to keep consulting his opinion? And what happens when the inevitable happens and he buys the farm? Do we then hire a Medium to contact him in the spirit word when we need to make decisions?

 

He's retired, let the man be.

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You guys are pu&&y. I like Bo even more.

 

Look at almost any thread, and if you think you "fans" are not more negative and childish the Bo, your delusional. SE sounds like a complete loser.

 

Bring it.

I agree about liking Bo more from this, I know that's not popular...and I am glad he's gone, but still nice to see someone who doesn't just do the "company" good-bye and act like everything was fine. Why do we have to be so "PC" all the time, it's like everyone freaks out when someone speaks their mind. If he was working at McDonalds and left that job with a rant like this, we would all say "good job" but when it's a university position and comes with a million dollar salary everyone thinks he has to act a certain way...I like his passion.
Big difference between passion and being a childish jerk off who had the support of one of the most loyal fan bases in the country even after he crapped on us by calling us fair weather and telling us to f ourselves.
Had the support of one of the most loyal fan base? You must be joking. There was a clear divide. (and for the last time, he wasn't refering to all fans in the quote you mention).

How bad of a coach are you if you can't win unless 100% of the fan base supports you?

 

And which came first: The poor performances (on and off the field) or the erosion of fan support?

 

Again, what you Bolievers don't get is that it that your theory rests on the ridiculous proposition that half the fan base and the media and the administration arbitrarily and coincidentally all woke up one morning and decided to hate on Bo for no good reason, and that this spontaneous, widespread disdain for Bo manifested as poor results on the field that would not have otherwise occurred. It's truly insane.

Except that's not what I believe (and i doubt anyone believes). I just dont think it's easy to consistently win national championships, and that going 9-3 isn't the end of the world. Most fan bases would be good with having no less then 9 wins in each of the past 7 years. Look at Michigan, Florida, Texas, Usc, miami, etc. and compare how they have performed over that same period. Do you think they don't want to win? The point is its hard.

 

Yes, a lot of those loses hurt. Hurt bad (especially the ones against Wisconsin). But each of those teams also had tough losses. Look at Wisconsin on the championship game this year vs a third string QB with no real prior experience. 59-0. You don't think that hurt the fans of Wisconsin? That's the point.

I'm glad you brought up Wisconsin. How many CCGs has that program won over the past few years? How many Rose Bowl appearances? Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Michigan play in the Sugar Bowl during Hoke's tenure? Did Mack Brown play for a couple national titles and win one on the way?

 

Sure the blowout losses happen. But for most coaches, they are offset by championships or other tangible barometers of success. For Bo, there was nothing to offset those games. And the blowouts kept coming. Wisconsin's had one epic Pelini-style meltdown in the how long? Pelini was good for at least one a year.

 

Literally the only thing you could say about him is 9 wins. But at what cost? I would gladly take 10 straight 8-4 seasons if it meant no more than a rare blowout and, more importantly, a head coach that doesn't act like a complete asshat.

You are selectively pointing out things to highlight your point. I could easily do the same and show you substantially more heart ache for the teams I mentioned above.

 

 

I'll wait. Also, I'm not sure what point you think you're making (going to make?) with Michigan and Florida, both of whom just fired their coach.

 

I will say that the one thing you do have going for you is the way Bo was snatched up by an elite Division 1, "Power 5" program that couldn't believe Nebraska turned him loose so they could snatch him up. I'll admit that is a sticking point for my argument.

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Give this a listen.

 

https://social.newsinc.com/media/json/69017/28272743/singleVideoOG.html?videoId=28272743&type=VideoPlayer/16x9&widgetId=2&trackingGroup=69017

 

There's more here.

 

http://www.omaha.com/huskers/blogs/tbl-roundtable-jay-moore-sam-mckewon-tom-shatel-discuss-pelini/article_7b35eeca-870a-11e4-9d9a-6ff9ae540697.html?mode=jqm

 

 

McKewon, Moore and Shatel really nail this.

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