Saunders Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 (edited) I don't really disagree with the overall point that we need better athletes. This is a given. But what gets me, is that 1 year ago Eichhorst said we have the talent to win a championship now. He said a major reason we fired Bo was he didn't think he could guide us to a championship. Yet, here we are a year later, and they invite all the media out and put on a nice PR event. Whether or not it was their intent, it comes across as covering their backsides for a bad year. Yep But even worse, they threw the players under the bus in order to "cover their backsides". And even worse than that... and the part I cant even hardly think about... is they appear to have used Boyds reputation and standing... the one guy who really does have a great reputation in the program... in their attempt to "cover their backsides". I really feel bad for Boyd. If this had only been about performance testing and making those numbers public again then it wouldn't have been a problem. Virtually everyone agrees that's a good thing. But when they injected the other needless and inflammatory stuff about needing to recruit "more talented" players and the stuff about the current players needing too much developing and coaching... in order to "cover their backsides for a bad year"... that's when the public relations scheme crashed in a ball of flames. Anytime you and your ilk don't like the message, you call the messenger a liar. Its BS and its getting old. You do realize that the "messenger" said this a year ago... "At the end of the day, I think we have kids in our program that are capable of winning championships." http://www.cornnation.com/2014/11/30/7310255/nebraska-huskers-football-bo-pelini-shawn-eichorst-press-conference So... what were you saying about lying again? So he realized he was wrong, big f'ing deal. That does not make him a liar. I have no doubt the Pelini fortress was hard to see inside. Think you can find that mountain after tripping over the mole hole? So you're changing the rules again? Eichorst says after firing Pelini that he thinks we have the players to win championships. Then Boyd comes in and puts actual measurements to that thought and shows we don't. It doesn't make a guy a liar. I haven't seen anything out of Boyd's stuff that says we can't at least win a conference championship. He says we don't have as good of players as we did in the 90's, no duh. Now, people are taking this article, and running with it "SEE, SEE, WE DON'T HAVE THE PLAYERS!!!!" It's simply not true. So either way, Eichorst is not a liar. Glad we agree on that. Nah, he still lied about Bert, and his policy of not commenting during the season. Edited December 22, 2015 by Mavric Split out of the Epley thread Quote Link to comment
StPaulHusker Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 I don't really disagree with the overall point that we need better athletes. This is a given. But what gets me, is that 1 year ago Eichhorst said we have the talent to win a championship now. He said a major reason we fired Bo was he didn't think he could guide us to a championship. Yet, here we are a year later, and they invite all the media out and put on a nice PR event. Whether or not it was their intent, it comes across as covering their backsides for a bad year. Yep But even worse, they threw the players under the bus in order to "cover their backsides". And even worse than that... and the part I cant even hardly think about... is they appear to have used Boyds reputation and standing... the one guy who really does have a great reputation in the program... in their attempt to "cover their backsides". I really feel bad for Boyd. If this had only been about performance testing and making those numbers public again then it wouldn't have been a problem. Virtually everyone agrees that's a good thing. But when they injected the other needless and inflammatory stuff about needing to recruit "more talented" players and the stuff about the current players needing too much developing and coaching... in order to "cover their backsides for a bad year"... that's when the public relations scheme crashed in a ball of flames. Anytime you and your ilk don't like the message, you call the messenger a liar. Its BS and its getting old. You do realize that the "messenger" said this a year ago... "At the end of the day, I think we have kids in our program that are capable of winning championships." http://www.cornnation.com/2014/11/30/7310255/nebraska-huskers-football-bo-pelini-shawn-eichorst-press-conference So... what were you saying about lying again? So he realized he was wrong, big f'ing deal. That does not make him a liar. I have no doubt the Pelini fortress was hard to see inside. Think you can find that mountain after tripping over the mole hole? So you're changing the rules again? Eichorst says after firing Pelini that he thinks we have the players to win championships. Then Boyd comes in and puts actual measurements to that thought and shows we don't. It doesn't make a guy a liar. I haven't seen anything out of Boyd's stuff that says we can't at least win a conference championship. He says we don't have as good of players as we did in the 90's, no duh. Now, people are taking this article, and running with it "SEE, SEE, WE DON'T HAVE THE PLAYERS!!!!" It's simply not true. So either way, Eichorst is not a liar. Glad we agree on that. Nah, he still lied about Bert, and his policy of not commenting during the season. Do you have proof of Bielema? And changing a policy is not lying. Quote Link to comment
Saunders Posted December 22, 2015 Author Share Posted December 22, 2015 I don't really disagree with the overall point that we need better athletes. This is a given. But what gets me, is that 1 year ago Eichhorst said we have the talent to win a championship now. He said a major reason we fired Bo was he didn't think he could guide us to a championship. Yet, here we are a year later, and they invite all the media out and put on a nice PR event. Whether or not it was their intent, it comes across as covering their backsides for a bad year. Yep But even worse, they threw the players under the bus in order to "cover their backsides". And even worse than that... and the part I cant even hardly think about... is they appear to have used Boyds reputation and standing... the one guy who really does have a great reputation in the program... in their attempt to "cover their backsides". I really feel bad for Boyd. If this had only been about performance testing and making those numbers public again then it wouldn't have been a problem. Virtually everyone agrees that's a good thing. But when they injected the other needless and inflammatory stuff about needing to recruit "more talented" players and the stuff about the current players needing too much developing and coaching... in order to "cover their backsides for a bad year"... that's when the public relations scheme crashed in a ball of flames. Anytime you and your ilk don't like the message, you call the messenger a liar. Its BS and its getting old. You do realize that the "messenger" said this a year ago... "At the end of the day, I think we have kids in our program that are capable of winning championships." http://www.cornnation.com/2014/11/30/7310255/nebraska-huskers-football-bo-pelini-shawn-eichorst-press-conference So... what were you saying about lying again? So he realized he was wrong, big f'ing deal. That does not make him a liar. I have no doubt the Pelini fortress was hard to see inside. Think you can find that mountain after tripping over the mole hole? So you're changing the rules again? Eichorst says after firing Pelini that he thinks we have the players to win championships. Then Boyd comes in and puts actual measurements to that thought and shows we don't. It doesn't make a guy a liar. I haven't seen anything out of Boyd's stuff that says we can't at least win a conference championship. He says we don't have as good of players as we did in the 90's, no duh. Now, people are taking this article, and running with it "SEE, SEE, WE DON'T HAVE THE PLAYERS!!!!" It's simply not true. So either way, Eichorst is not a liar. Glad we agree on that. Nah, he still lied about Bert, and his policy of not commenting during the season. Do you have proof of Bielema? And changing a policy is not lying. https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=bret%20bielema%20nebraska And "changing policy?" Oh come on..... Even Tom Shatel called it for what it was. Quote Link to comment
StPaulHusker Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 I don't really disagree with the overall point that we need better athletes. This is a given. But what gets me, is that 1 year ago Eichhorst said we have the talent to win a championship now. He said a major reason we fired Bo was he didn't think he could guide us to a championship. Yet, here we are a year later, and they invite all the media out and put on a nice PR event. Whether or not it was their intent, it comes across as covering their backsides for a bad year. Yep But even worse, they threw the players under the bus in order to "cover their backsides". And even worse than that... and the part I cant even hardly think about... is they appear to have used Boyds reputation and standing... the one guy who really does have a great reputation in the program... in their attempt to "cover their backsides". I really feel bad for Boyd. If this had only been about performance testing and making those numbers public again then it wouldn't have been a problem. Virtually everyone agrees that's a good thing. But when they injected the other needless and inflammatory stuff about needing to recruit "more talented" players and the stuff about the current players needing too much developing and coaching... in order to "cover their backsides for a bad year"... that's when the public relations scheme crashed in a ball of flames. Anytime you and your ilk don't like the message, you call the messenger a liar. Its BS and its getting old. You do realize that the "messenger" said this a year ago... "At the end of the day, I think we have kids in our program that are capable of winning championships." http://www.cornnation.com/2014/11/30/7310255/nebraska-huskers-football-bo-pelini-shawn-eichorst-press-conference So... what were you saying about lying again? So he realized he was wrong, big f'ing deal. That does not make him a liar. I have no doubt the Pelini fortress was hard to see inside. Think you can find that mountain after tripping over the mole hole? So you're changing the rules again? Eichorst says after firing Pelini that he thinks we have the players to win championships. Then Boyd comes in and puts actual measurements to that thought and shows we don't. It doesn't make a guy a liar. I haven't seen anything out of Boyd's stuff that says we can't at least win a conference championship. He says we don't have as good of players as we did in the 90's, no duh. Now, people are taking this article, and running with it "SEE, SEE, WE DON'T HAVE THE PLAYERS!!!!" It's simply not true. So either way, Eichorst is not a liar. Glad we agree on that. Nah, he still lied about Bert, and his policy of not commenting during the season. Do you have proof of Bielema? And changing a policy is not lying. https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=bret%20bielema%20nebraska And "changing policy?" Oh come on..... Even Tom Shatel called it for what it was. So you believe Bret Bielema over Shawn Eichorst? Okay. Suit yourself. And do you know what lying means? Him speaking about Riley during the season isn't lying. The guy is allowed to change his mind on things. Whether we agree it was a good move or not. It doesn't make it a lie. Quote Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 I don't really disagree with the overall point that we need better athletes. This is a given. But what gets me, is that 1 year ago Eichhorst said we have the talent to win a championship now. He said a major reason we fired Bo was he didn't think he could guide us to a championship. Yet, here we are a year later, and they invite all the media out and put on a nice PR event. Whether or not it was their intent, it comes across as covering their backsides for a bad year. Yep But even worse, they threw the players under the bus in order to "cover their backsides". And even worse than that... and the part I cant even hardly think about... is they appear to have used Boyds reputation and standing... the one guy who really does have a great reputation in the program... in their attempt to "cover their backsides". I really feel bad for Boyd. If this had only been about performance testing and making those numbers public again then it wouldn't have been a problem. Virtually everyone agrees that's a good thing. But when they injected the other needless and inflammatory stuff about needing to recruit "more talented" players and the stuff about the current players needing too much developing and coaching... in order to "cover their backsides for a bad year"... that's when the public relations scheme crashed in a ball of flames. Anytime you and your ilk don't like the message, you call the messenger a liar. Its BS and its getting old. You do realize that the "messenger" said this a year ago... "At the end of the day, I think we have kids in our program that are capable of winning championships." http://www.cornnation.com/2014/11/30/7310255/nebraska-huskers-football-bo-pelini-shawn-eichorst-press-conference So... what were you saying about lying again? So he realized he was wrong, big f'ing deal. That does not make him a liar. I have no doubt the Pelini fortress was hard to see inside. Think you can find that mountain after tripping over the mole hole? So you're changing the rules again? Eichorst says after firing Pelini that he thinks we have the players to win championships. Then Boyd comes in and puts actual measurements to that thought and shows we don't. It doesn't make a guy a liar. I haven't seen anything out of Boyd's stuff that says we can't at least win a conference championship. He says we don't have as good of players as we did in the 90's, no duh. Now, people are taking this article, and running with it "SEE, SEE, WE DON'T HAVE THE PLAYERS!!!!" It's simply not true. So either way, Eichorst is not a liar. Glad we agree on that. Nah, he still lied about Bert, and his policy of not commenting during the season. Do you have proof of Bielema? And changing a policy is not lying. https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=bret%20bielema%20nebraska And "changing policy?" Oh come on..... Even Tom Shatel called it for what it was. So you believe Bret Bielema over Shawn Eichorst? Okay. Suit yourself. And do you know what lying means? Him speaking about Riley during the season isn't lying. The guy is allowed to change his mind on things. Whether we agree it was a good move or not. It doesn't make it a lie. True. Quote Link to comment
knapplc Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=bret%20bielema%20nebraska And "changing policy?" Oh come on..... Even Tom Shatel called it for what it was. So you believe Bret Bielema over Shawn Eichorst? Okay. Suit yourself. And do you know what lying means? Him speaking about Riley during the season isn't lying. The guy is allowed to change his mind on things. Whether we agree it was a good move or not. It doesn't make it a lie. The second link in that google search features Perlman laughing about the Bielema rumor, giving the best explanation of why we never contacted him about the job: "To all you doubters. You don't hire a coach (Bielema) who just moved a year ago. If he came could you be confident he'd stay? YOLO" I thought we put this Bielema thing to bed a long time ago. Now that's become "true" again because of a message board argument? Yikes. What's next, "county scholarships" coming back for another go-round? 1 Quote Link to comment
Saunders Posted December 22, 2015 Author Share Posted December 22, 2015 I don't really disagree with the overall point that we need better athletes. This is a given. But what gets me, is that 1 year ago Eichhorst said we have the talent to win a championship now. He said a major reason we fired Bo was he didn't think he could guide us to a championship. Yet, here we are a year later, and they invite all the media out and put on a nice PR event. Whether or not it was their intent, it comes across as covering their backsides for a bad year. Yep But even worse, they threw the players under the bus in order to "cover their backsides". And even worse than that... and the part I cant even hardly think about... is they appear to have used Boyds reputation and standing... the one guy who really does have a great reputation in the program... in their attempt to "cover their backsides". I really feel bad for Boyd. If this had only been about performance testing and making those numbers public again then it wouldn't have been a problem. Virtually everyone agrees that's a good thing. But when they injected the other needless and inflammatory stuff about needing to recruit "more talented" players and the stuff about the current players needing too much developing and coaching... in order to "cover their backsides for a bad year"... that's when the public relations scheme crashed in a ball of flames. Anytime you and your ilk don't like the message, you call the messenger a liar. Its BS and its getting old. You do realize that the "messenger" said this a year ago... "At the end of the day, I think we have kids in our program that are capable of winning championships." http://www.cornnation.com/2014/11/30/7310255/nebraska-huskers-football-bo-pelini-shawn-eichorst-press-conference So... what were you saying about lying again? So he realized he was wrong, big f'ing deal. That does not make him a liar. I have no doubt the Pelini fortress was hard to see inside. Think you can find that mountain after tripping over the mole hole? So you're changing the rules again? Eichorst says after firing Pelini that he thinks we have the players to win championships. Then Boyd comes in and puts actual measurements to that thought and shows we don't. It doesn't make a guy a liar. I haven't seen anything out of Boyd's stuff that says we can't at least win a conference championship. He says we don't have as good of players as we did in the 90's, no duh. Now, people are taking this article, and running with it "SEE, SEE, WE DON'T HAVE THE PLAYERS!!!!" It's simply not true. So either way, Eichorst is not a liar. Glad we agree on that. Nah, he still lied about Bert, and his policy of not commenting during the season. Do you have proof of Bielema? And changing a policy is not lying. https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=bret%20bielema%20nebraska And "changing policy?" Oh come on..... Even Tom Shatel called it for what it was. So you believe Bret Bielema over Shawn Eichorst? Okay. Suit yourself. And do you know what lying means? Him speaking about Riley during the season isn't lying. The guy is allowed to change his mind on things. Whether we agree it was a good move or not. It doesn't make it a lie. I believe the multitude of sources that are saying it happened. Quote Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 I don't really disagree with the overall point that we need better athletes. This is a given. But what gets me, is that 1 year ago Eichhorst said we have the talent to win a championship now. He said a major reason we fired Bo was he didn't think he could guide us to a championship. Yet, here we are a year later, and they invite all the media out and put on a nice PR event. Whether or not it was their intent, it comes across as covering their backsides for a bad year. Yep But even worse, they threw the players under the bus in order to "cover their backsides". And even worse than that... and the part I cant even hardly think about... is they appear to have used Boyds reputation and standing... the one guy who really does have a great reputation in the program... in their attempt to "cover their backsides". I really feel bad for Boyd. If this had only been about performance testing and making those numbers public again then it wouldn't have been a problem. Virtually everyone agrees that's a good thing. But when they injected the other needless and inflammatory stuff about needing to recruit "more talented" players and the stuff about the current players needing too much developing and coaching... in order to "cover their backsides for a bad year"... that's when the public relations scheme crashed in a ball of flames. Anytime you and your ilk don't like the message, you call the messenger a liar. Its BS and its getting old. You do realize that the "messenger" said this a year ago... "At the end of the day, I think we have kids in our program that are capable of winning championships." http://www.cornnation.com/2014/11/30/7310255/nebraska-huskers-football-bo-pelini-shawn-eichorst-press-conference So... what were you saying about lying again? So he realized he was wrong, big f'ing deal. That does not make him a liar. I have no doubt the Pelini fortress was hard to see inside. Think you can find that mountain after tripping over the mole hole? So you're changing the rules again? Eichorst says after firing Pelini that he thinks we have the players to win championships. Then Boyd comes in and puts actual measurements to that thought and shows we don't. It doesn't make a guy a liar. I haven't seen anything out of Boyd's stuff that says we can't at least win a conference championship. He says we don't have as good of players as we did in the 90's, no duh. Now, people are taking this article, and running with it "SEE, SEE, WE DON'T HAVE THE PLAYERS!!!!" It's simply not true. So either way, Eichorst is not a liar. Glad we agree on that. Nah, he still lied about Bert, and his policy of not commenting during the season. Do you have proof of Bielema? And changing a policy is not lying. https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=bret%20bielema%20nebraska And "changing policy?" Oh come on..... Even Tom Shatel called it for what it was. So you believe Bret Bielema over Shawn Eichorst? Okay. Suit yourself. And do you know what lying means? Him speaking about Riley during the season isn't lying. The guy is allowed to change his mind on things. Whether we agree it was a good move or not. It doesn't make it a lie. I believe the multitide of sources that are saying it happened. So...multiple message boards had it posted so it's true? Quote Link to comment
knapplc Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 I believe the multitide of sources that are saying it happened. No "multitude" exists. The only actual factual sources could be from the Nebraska Athletic Dept or Bielema's agent. Quote Link to comment
Saunders Posted December 22, 2015 Author Share Posted December 22, 2015 I believe the multitide of sources that are saying it happened. No "multitude" exists. The only actual factual sources could be from the Nebraska Athletic Dept or Bielema's agent. Oh come on knapp, you know how the hiring game works in this day and age. Do you think Callahan as SP's first choice too? Quote Link to comment
GBRedneck Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=bret%20bielema%20nebraska And "changing policy?" Oh come on..... Even Tom Shatel called it for what it was. So you believe Bret Bielema over Shawn Eichorst? Okay. Suit yourself. And do you know what lying means? Him speaking about Riley during the season isn't lying. The guy is allowed to change his mind on things. Whether we agree it was a good move or not. It doesn't make it a lie. The second link in that google search features Perlman laughing about the Bielema rumor, giving the best explanation of why we never contacted him about the job: "To all you doubters. You don't hire a coach (Bielema) who just moved a year ago. If he came could you be confident he'd stay? YOLO" I thought we put this Bielema thing to bed a long time ago. Now that's become "true" again because of a message board argument? Yikes. What's next, "county scholarships" coming back for another go-round? Funny how Harvey got the memo about hiring coaches who just moved a year ago, but missed the one on firing 9 win coaches. Not to mention that Harvey is a lawyer, so it's easy to tell when he's lying. Just look for lip movement. Quote Link to comment
StPaulHusker Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 I don't really disagree with the overall point that we need better athletes. This is a given. But what gets me, is that 1 year ago Eichhorst said we have the talent to win a championship now. He said a major reason we fired Bo was he didn't think he could guide us to a championship. Yet, here we are a year later, and they invite all the media out and put on a nice PR event. Whether or not it was their intent, it comes across as covering their backsides for a bad year. Yep But even worse, they threw the players under the bus in order to "cover their backsides". And even worse than that... and the part I cant even hardly think about... is they appear to have used Boyds reputation and standing... the one guy who really does have a great reputation in the program... in their attempt to "cover their backsides". I really feel bad for Boyd. If this had only been about performance testing and making those numbers public again then it wouldn't have been a problem. Virtually everyone agrees that's a good thing. But when they injected the other needless and inflammatory stuff about needing to recruit "more talented" players and the stuff about the current players needing too much developing and coaching... in order to "cover their backsides for a bad year"... that's when the public relations scheme crashed in a ball of flames. Anytime you and your ilk don't like the message, you call the messenger a liar. Its BS and its getting old. You do realize that the "messenger" said this a year ago... "At the end of the day, I think we have kids in our program that are capable of winning championships." http://www.cornnation.com/2014/11/30/7310255/nebraska-huskers-football-bo-pelini-shawn-eichorst-press-conference So... what were you saying about lying again? So he realized he was wrong, big f'ing deal. That does not make him a liar. I have no doubt the Pelini fortress was hard to see inside. Think you can find that mountain after tripping over the mole hole? So you're changing the rules again? Eichorst says after firing Pelini that he thinks we have the players to win championships. Then Boyd comes in and puts actual measurements to that thought and shows we don't. It doesn't make a guy a liar. I haven't seen anything out of Boyd's stuff that says we can't at least win a conference championship. He says we don't have as good of players as we did in the 90's, no duh. Now, people are taking this article, and running with it "SEE, SEE, WE DON'T HAVE THE PLAYERS!!!!" It's simply not true. So either way, Eichorst is not a liar. Glad we agree on that. Nah, he still lied about Bert, and his policy of not commenting during the season. Do you have proof of Bielema? And changing a policy is not lying. https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=bret%20bielema%20nebraska And "changing policy?" Oh come on..... Even Tom Shatel called it for what it was. So you believe Bret Bielema over Shawn Eichorst? Okay. Suit yourself. And do you know what lying means? Him speaking about Riley during the season isn't lying. The guy is allowed to change his mind on things. Whether we agree it was a good move or not. It doesn't make it a lie. I believe the multitide of sources that are saying it happened. Look, you show me proof that he was offered and I will give you all my +1's for a year. But if you can't, it's just hearsay and one word against another and doesn't make it a lie. It's just you believing someone more than someone else. 2 Quote Link to comment
StPaulHusker Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 I believe the multitide of sources that are saying it happened. No "multitude" exists. The only actual factual sources could be from the Nebraska Athletic Dept or Bielema's agent. Oh come on knapp, you know how the hiring game works in this day and age. Do you think Callahan as SP's first choice too? The plane to pick up Houston Nutt was a dead giveaway Quote Link to comment
Saunders Posted December 22, 2015 Author Share Posted December 22, 2015 So you believe Bret Bielema over Shawn Eichorst? Okay. Suit yourself. And do you know what lying means? Him speaking about Riley during the season isn't lying. The guy is allowed to change his mind on things. Whether we agree it was a good move or not. It doesn't make it a lie. I believe the multitide of sources that are saying it happened. So...multiple message boards had it posted so it's true? I trust a guy like Gil Brandt. http://footballscoop.com/news/nebraskas-short-list-played/ Quote Link to comment
StPaulHusker Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 So you believe Bret Bielema over Shawn Eichorst? Okay. Suit yourself. And do you know what lying means? Him speaking about Riley during the season isn't lying. The guy is allowed to change his mind on things. Whether we agree it was a good move or not. It doesn't make it a lie. I believe the multitide of sources that are saying it happened. So...multiple message boards had it posted so it's true? I trust a guy like Gil Brandt. http://footballscoop.com/news/nebraskas-short-list-played/ Funny how they talked to BB's agent and then shortly after, he gets a pay raise and extension at Arkansas Quote Link to comment
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