Looking Back At The Last Coaching Hire

[Saunders]

 

Right, and how do you know these things? Likely, because somebody told you, and most likely, it was told to them as well.

No.

 

So you were there?

[teachercd]

 

 

So "ego" is the ONLY reason someone would doubt the Bielema-to-Nebraska story?

 

I did not know that.

Why would people not want to believe that we were talking to other coaches about coaching here?

 

Because specifically mentioned coaches weren't approached? I mean... that's kinda a good reason, right?

 

No, not really. There was zero mention of Riley until he was hired but clearly he was being approached...I think most of us thought SE was talking to coaches about the job.

[knapplc]

 

FootballScoop reported that a "multitude" of sources told them Eichorst approached Bielema first.

 

http://footballscoop.com/news/nebraskas-short-list-played/

 

This was quickly followed by Perlman scoffing at that report in the quote I provided above.

 

People can choose to believe whatever they want, or whatever suits their worldview. There's a lot of turmoil and one-upsmanship going on between the Roussel brothers.

Sun, Nov 30 - Bo Fired

Mon, Dec 1 - Eichorst flies to SF

Tue, Dec 2 - Eichorst, Perlman, Riley meet in SF. Riley offered job and accepts

Wed, Dec 3 - Eichorst flies back to Lincoln, deal is finalized

Thurs, Dec 4 - Brandt tweet about Burt "being offered yesterday", Football Scoop linked article above, Riley announced by UNL at 11:30am

 

So if you are to believe that Burt was offered on Wednesday, Dec 3, then why the hell was Eichorst/Perlman in SF negotiating with Riley Tuesday and offering him the job?

 

espn and owh articles with the SF timeline:

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/12009292/behind-scenes-quiet-search-brought-mike-riley-nebraska-cornhuskers​

http://www.omaha.com/huskers/in-san-francisco-meeting-eichorst-and-perlman-find-our-guy/article_d024a272-7cb1-11e4-97d9-7f8f570d3d6e.html

 

I see where you're going with this, but the process to replace Bo started after the Wisconsin game. The time frame is much longer.

[Red Five]

Furthermore, why is it such a big deal that people don't want to believe that it's possible that we were talking to Bielema about being a coach here? Eichorst has a history with him. He was successful in the Big Ten running the type of schemes that many of our fans think is the right recipe for our situation. There are multiple reports that it was true and the only two people who deny it are the two people who have the most reason to "lie" about it.

 

Really the only reason to not want to believe this is because of some inflated ego thinking that we absolutely got the first guy on our list and no one would ever turn down the chance to coach here.

For the record, I think that Burt would probably do a good job here. He's and asshat like Bo though, so his act may have worn thin.

 

I think that it gets brought up negatively because its just adds more ammo to those that hate everything about Perlman and Eichorst.

[Mavric]

 

 

So "ego" is the ONLY reason someone would doubt the Bielema-to-Nebraska story?

 

I did not know that.

Why would people not want to believe that we were talking to other coaches about coaching here?

 

Because specifically mentioned coaches weren't approached? I mean... that's kinda a good reason, right?

 

 

And how do you know they weren't approached?

[GBRedneck]

 

 

So "ego" is the ONLY reason someone would doubt the Bielema-to-Nebraska story?

 

I did not know that.

Why would people not want to believe that we were talking to other coaches about coaching here?

 

Because specifically mentioned coaches weren't approached? I mean... that's kinda a good reason, right?

 

Bielema's agent is Neil Cornrich. The same guy also advises Eichorst. It's a fact that Bielema's people talked to Ecihorst's people about the job. Even if those "people" are the same person.

[Mavric]

 

 

FootballScoop reported that a "multitude" of sources told them Eichorst approached Bielema first.

 

http://footballscoop.com/news/nebraskas-short-list-played/

 

This was quickly followed by Perlman scoffing at that report in the quote I provided above.

 

People can choose to believe whatever they want, or whatever suits their worldview. There's a lot of turmoil and one-upsmanship going on between the Roussel brothers.

Sun, Nov 30 - Bo Fired

Mon, Dec 1 - Eichorst flies to SF

Tue, Dec 2 - Eichorst, Perlman, Riley meet in SF. Riley offered job and accepts

Wed, Dec 3 - Eichorst flies back to Lincoln, deal is finalized

Thurs, Dec 4 - Brandt tweet about Burt "being offered yesterday", Football Scoop linked article above, Riley announced by UNL at 11:30am

 

So if you are to believe that Burt was offered on Wednesday, Dec 3, then why the hell was Eichorst/Perlman in SF negotiating with Riley Tuesday and offering him the job?

 

espn and owh articles with the SF timeline:

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/12009292/behind-scenes-quiet-search-brought-mike-riley-nebraska-cornhuskers​

http://www.omaha.com/huskers/in-san-francisco-meeting-eichorst-and-perlman-find-our-guy/article_d024a272-7cb1-11e4-97d9-7f8f570d3d6e.html

 

I see where you're going with this, but the process to replace Bo started after the Wisconsin game. The time frame is much longer.

 

 

But that's not what ADSE said.

[Red Five]

 

 

FootballScoop reported that a "multitude" of sources told them Eichorst approached Bielema first.

 

http://footballscoop.com/news/nebraskas-short-list-played/

 

This was quickly followed by Perlman scoffing at that report in the quote I provided above.

 

People can choose to believe whatever they want, or whatever suits their worldview. There's a lot of turmoil and one-upsmanship going on between the Roussel brothers.

Sun, Nov 30 - Bo Fired

Mon, Dec 1 - Eichorst flies to SF

Tue, Dec 2 - Eichorst, Perlman, Riley meet in SF. Riley offered job and accepts

Wed, Dec 3 - Eichorst flies back to Lincoln, deal is finalized

Thurs, Dec 4 - Brandt tweet about Burt "being offered yesterday", Football Scoop linked article above, Riley announced by UNL at 11:30am

 

So if you are to believe that Burt was offered on Wednesday, Dec 3, then why the hell was Eichorst/Perlman in SF negotiating with Riley Tuesday and offering him the job?

 

espn and owh articles with the SF timeline:

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/12009292/behind-scenes-quiet-search-brought-mike-riley-nebraska-cornhuskers​

http://www.omaha.com/huskers/in-san-francisco-meeting-eichorst-and-perlman-find-our-guy/article_d024a272-7cb1-11e4-97d9-7f8f570d3d6e.html

 

I see where you're going with this, but the process to replace Bo started after the Wisconsin game. The time frame is much longer.

 

 

I would agree with that, although I don't have any details. I'm just more disproving the Brandt tweet. If Burt was offered on Wednesday, why did Eichorst already offer Riley the job on Tuesday?

[84HuskerLaw]

So in the immortal words of Hillary Clinton, America's most successful liar, "What difference does it make?"

You are discussing a history of rumors and inuendos about a subject that nobody will likely ever realy know what may or may not have happened. I would think it is safe to say that in the course of a head coaching 'search' and hiring process, the searching party would consider a significant number of candidates. The search in most organization is often endless and always on going. You would like to keep your options open as much as possible as a good manager. If a great potential hire is out there in the market place, whether employed or not, you keep your mind open to the possibilities.

 

Whether or not a given candidate is the FIRST to be contacted or the FIRST to be interviewed, he or she may NOT be the 'First Choice". You interview in whatever order they may come or be available. You may interview a number of candidates even if you don't necessarily have much or even any interest in them. You never want to show your hand as to your degree of interest or not because you do not know the relative interest, availability, etc. Often a prospect may look good on paper in the resume but in person you find something completely different or vice versa.

 

Whether Huston Nutt was or was not among Pederson's list of favorites or even possibilities we will never know. He may well have sent the airplane to pick him up for an interview or discussion or whatever. That does NOT mean he was really interested. Sometimes you have to show flexibility and legitimate 'search' when you have a particular prospect 'first' in your mind. There is strategy and negotiations and etc.

 

Think of it like searching for a new car at the dealership. If you go in there and give away your absolute interest in one certain make, model, color, etc that happens to be sitting in the show room, the salesman will know he can clip you for a bunch of extra bucks as he has the one and only that you are seeking. As a potential buyer you don't show your cards until the numbers have been discussed.

[Saunders]

 

FootballScoop reported that a "multitude" of sources told them Eichorst approached Bielema first.

 

http://footballscoop.com/news/nebraskas-short-list-played/

 

This was quickly followed by Perlman scoffing at that report in the quote I provided above.

 

People can choose to believe whatever they want, or whatever suits their worldview. There's a lot of turmoil and one-upsmanship going on between the Roussel brothers.

 

Sun, Nov 30 - Bo Fired

Mon, Dec 1 - Eichorst flies to SF

Tue, Dec 2 - Eichorst, Perlman, Riley meet in SF. Riley offered job and accepts

Wed, Dec 3 - Eichorst flies back to Lincoln, deal is finalized

Thurs, Dec 4 - Brandt tweet about Burt "being offered yesterday", Football Scoop linked article above, Riley announced by UNL at 11:30am

 

So if you are to believe that Burt was offered on Wednesday, Dec 3, then why the hell was Eichorst/Perlman in SF negotiating with Riley Tuesday and offering him the job?

 

espn and owh articles with the SF timeline:

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/12009292/behind-scenes-quiet-search-brought-mike-riley-nebraska-cornhuskers​

http://www.omaha.com/huskers/in-san-francisco-meeting-eichorst-and-perlman-find-our-guy/article_d024a272-7cb1-11e4-97d9-7f8f570d3d6e.html

 

Football scoop, Gil Brandt, and Bruce Feldman (who's arguably one of the best FB journalists out there) all started reporting it on the 3rd.

[Mavric]

So "ego" is the ONLY reason someone would doubt the Bielema-to-Nebraska story?

 

I did not know that.

 

By the way, I wasn't meaning the ego of the person in how they view themselves. I meant the view of the Husker program - that they might think the programs has/carries more clout that it actually does.

[StPaulHusker]

This whole thing has spiraled into a lot of things.

 

But no one can prove that Eichorst LIED about the 2 things that Saunders was saying he lied about. If you choose to not believe him, that's your opinion. That doesn't prove he lied.

[knapplc]

I would agree with that, although I don't have any details. I'm just more disproving the Brandt tweet. If Burt was offered on Wednesday, why did Eichorst already offer Riley the job on Tuesday?

Where would Gil Brandt have gotten such a story? He has no ties to Nebraska, but he knows Bielema from his Wisconsin days.

 

Knowing Bielema is a sought-after coach wouldn't help in contract negotiations, would it?

 

Did Bert get a new contract in 2015?

 

Did it push his salary over $4 million?

 

 

 

 

Nah. It's probably an ego thing.

[GBRedneck]

This whole thing has spiraled into a lot of things.

 

But no one can prove that Eichorst LIED about the 2 things that Saunders was saying he lied about. If you choose to not believe him, that's your opinion. That doesn't prove he lied.

He has plausible deniability on the Bert offer. But not on the policy change. That was a bold faced lie.

[Red Five]

 

 

FootballScoop reported that a "multitude" of sources told them Eichorst approached Bielema first.

 

http://footballscoop.com/news/nebraskas-short-list-played/

 

This was quickly followed by Perlman scoffing at that report in the quote I provided above.

 

People can choose to believe whatever they want, or whatever suits their worldview. There's a lot of turmoil and one-upsmanship going on between the Roussel brothers.

 

Sun, Nov 30 - Bo Fired

Mon, Dec 1 - Eichorst flies to SF

Tue, Dec 2 - Eichorst, Perlman, Riley meet in SF. Riley offered job and accepts

Wed, Dec 3 - Eichorst flies back to Lincoln, deal is finalized

Thurs, Dec 4 - Brandt tweet about Burt "being offered yesterday", Football Scoop linked article above, Riley announced by UNL at 11:30am

 

So if you are to believe that Burt was offered on Wednesday, Dec 3, then why the hell was Eichorst/Perlman in SF negotiating with Riley Tuesday and offering him the job?

 

espn and owh articles with the SF timeline:

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/12009292/behind-scenes-quiet-search-brought-mike-riley-nebraska-cornhuskers​

http://www.omaha.com/huskers/in-san-francisco-meeting-eichorst-and-perlman-find-our-guy/article_d024a272-7cb1-11e4-97d9-7f8f570d3d6e.html

 

Football scoop, Gil Brandt, and Bruce Feldman (who's arguably one of the best FB journalists out there) all started reporting it on the 3rd.

 

Maybe they were all hearing it from Burt's side to get that raise knapp is talking about?