Gawd Should Stop Livin' On the Dadgum Dole, RRRRRGH!

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Ok, fans of politics and religion, let me begin this discussion with the assumption that Gawd* does, in fact, exist. As an agnostic**, I know, I know, it's a stretch, and stay with me oh ye' fans of Richard Dawkins, Sam Harris, and the late, great Chris Hitchens(R.I.P.), but I assume the existence of Gawd since so many millions and billions of the human family swear He/She does exist and I can't make my argument w/o such admission.

 

You know, during this campaign season, so much back and forth about taxes and the efficacy thereof and then there's the renewed topic of so-called "religious freedom", you know, that's where religious people can be free to hate whomever their respective holy books say they are allowed to hate, e.g., gays, infidels, goyim, adulterous women, dark skinned people, etc. Well, I think religious people should be allowed the freedom to hate in any way they feel comfortable about and I also think they should be free to accept the blowback/social consequences thereof. But what I really want to talk about here is the fact that all the various holy rollers and their Gawds somehow feel their freedom includes living off the dole of society at large. Yeah, you know what I'm talking about: the free ride, free lunch, that is, the avoidance of all tax responsibility to the communities and society at large that serves them so faithfully: Gawd should stop livin' off the dadgum dole, rrrrgh!

 

Check it out, kind reader. All your dadgum religious institutions basically pay zip in taxes to anyone, anywhere. No property tax, no income tax, no tax on any investments, no tax on any donations, basically no tax at all, save maybe some sales tax on the grape juice and crackers or marshmellow jello and finger sandwiches and Koolaid they offer up on the cheap every other Sunday or so. A the same time, the community provides the normal public services availed to any business or institution--utilities, fire services, public schools for much of their congregations, police protection, etc.

 

You know, there's the ongoing vicious attack on the poor receiving the meager social services availed to them so as they not starve and be homeless in the capitalistic socioeconomic order, the constant call for hungry children to exhibit more "market discipline" while corporate welfare abounds. But you never hear a blip about Gawd and his innumerable "houses" living of the same dole, or worse. I mean, how much property do these holy rollers own? They say the Catholic Church is one of the biggest land/property holders in the world, pays zip in property taxes, yet the Pope and all his robe clad buddies live around some of the most opulent material wealth on the planet. We can extrapolate this phenomenon to the millions of other churches, synagogues, mosques, ashrams, monasteries, summer youth camps, big box Bible beating arenas, or religious based schools like Yale and Harvard. Yale, was founded by wealthy land/slave owning clergy and businessmen as a school to train clergymen and part of the deal was they would never pay property or income tax. Well, a couple hundred years later and Yale is the biggest property owner in New Haven and to this day have yet to pay 1 penny in property tax, yet are a massive burden on the local tax payers and public services provided thereof, in part, causing New Haven to be one of the newly poorest cities in the country--except for Yale.

 

Why is Gawd so dadgum cheap?! I thought Gawd made everything and therefore, at least tacitly, owns everything, which means Gawd owns money, and if He/She owns money, why the heck can't Gawd and His/Her followers pitch in and carry their significant weight in relation to the rest of society--especially to those of us who don't particularly believe in Him/Her?

 

This is a call to more religious freedom! That is, more freedom for the religious to pitch into the tax pool and stop being subsidized by everybody else! I mean, what does Gawd and all His followers give to the rest of us other than some useless, imaginary thoughts called prayers, or some crazy, illogical, fantastical, fairy tale books and stories to read? And the aforementioned prejudice at every turn. Seriously, I, for one, am sick and tired of giving Gawd and His Peeps a free ride. And since when has Gawd ever protected anybody? Like, never, just ask the Charleston 9, oh wait, they aren't here to talk about it.

 

Jeebus, we could probably pay off the national debt, or pay for lots of cool stuff, like free college tuition for all, health care for all, with all the revenue generated if we just taxed Gawd like everybody else. But no, Gawd and His holy rollers want their religious freedom to hate gays or women wanting choices and stuff, while gays and women have to help pay for their free ride.

 

 

So, when all you holy roller, "goodly" Christian(or otherwise) "souls" out there start griping about this and that "entitlement", and "why is the golldang gub'ment stealin' from me?", yada yada yada, all I can say is, "speak to the Hand", the Hand of Gawd, that is, and tell that Hand to stop taking a hand out and start payin' His/Her fair share to the rest of his so-called creation.

 

Tell your Gawd to stop livin' off the dadgum dole!

 

 

(*Gawd: Mur'can Deep South pronunciation of the term, "God", the alleged all creative, all knowing, all powerful Being of the Universe)

 

(**Agnostic: an honest person that neither believes or disbelieves in the existence of Gawd, since the latter has never been unequivocally shown to either exist or not exist. An agnostic admits to not knowing.)

[BigRedBuster]

I read about 10 words and decided....naaaa...no desire to have a discussion with someone on a subject that just want's to be insulting and condescending. Someone else can dive it....I'm out.

[Saunders]

[cm husker]

I think that tax exempt status should be removed from churches, if it's removed from all 501©(3) organizations.

 

And I definitely think that donations to college athletic programs should not be deductible, while we are at it.

 

 

But that OP makes me wondering about the stability of the OP. I feel like it came directly out of the 21st century digital version of the little red book.

[AR Husker Fan]

And I definitely think that donations to college athletic programs should not be deductible, while we are at it.

Whoa! Now you really ARE messing with religion!

[Scratchtown]

I think that tax exempt status should be removed from churches, if it's removed from all 501©(3) organizations.

 

And I definitely think that donations to college athletic programs should not be deductible, while we are at it.

 

 

But that OP makes me wondering about the stability of the OP. I feel like it came directly out of the 21st century digital version of the little red book.

Cornographic is the least stable person on the board. Especially when it comes to organized religion and politics. It's a damn shame because both of those things can cause a person to go insane fighting a fight that really has no punch to it.

 

It's just a rant, thats not changing anyone's mind. Therfore, it should just stop.

[NUance]

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[84HuskerLaw]

Not paying taxes is far from being on the public dole. How one concludes that not paying taxes is the same as receiving welfare indicates the 'logical' thinking of a liberal.

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Not paying taxes is far from being on the public dole. How one concludes that not paying taxes is the same as receiving welfare indicates the 'logical' thinking of a liberal.

Because if they are receiving all the public services for free, and get to do business for free, yet wield political influence, then they're on the dole, as in billions worth every year. I'm sorry if the concept is too complicated for you.

 

[cm husker]

Not paying taxes is far from being on the public dole. How one concludes that not paying taxes is the same as receiving welfare indicates the 'logical' thinking of a liberal.

It's exactly the same thing, actually.

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Tax exempt church mansion:

 

[cornographic]

I think that tax exempt status should be removed from churches, if it's removed from all 501©(3) organizations.

 

And I definitely think that donations to college athletic programs should not be deductible, while we are at it.

 

 

 

We actually agree on something, that's a first.

[cm husker]

Can you post the link to that actual picture?

 

 

I don't think this is a straight forward issue. Like so many things, the socialist/anti-religious take an extreme example to justify a wide ranging policy position that would impact a lot of people.

 

The question here is solely property because all of the employees, including the religious leaders, are taxed on their income. It's not as though all religious activity is tax free.

 

That said, I would do away with the 501©(3) deductions of any type, lower rates for everyone based on those saving and let people decide where they want to spend their dollars.

 

As to the taxation of church property, I don't have a problem in theory requiring churches to pay a property tax commiserate with the level of services they receive. I'd be curious to see what that figure really is for the typical church.

 

I do know that the $71,000,000,000 is manipulated and probably based on the total value of all property and not just what would be payable as a % of real property.