TheSker Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 4 minutes ago, Guy Chamberlin said: So you're actually doubling down on this? Sure....... Quote Link to comment
Moiraine Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 39 minutes ago, TheSker said: I'm not interested in continually defending nor berating Pelini. His winning percentage is good, and many people (Scott Frost included) defend the job Pelini did here. Yes you are. You do it often. Frost also said Pelini couldn't get over the hump, and I'm sure (/s) he would agree that Wisconsin scoring 70 points on us was 1 player's fault. 1 Quote Link to comment
TheSker Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 5 minutes ago, Moiraine said: Yes you are. You do it often. Frost also said Pelini couldn't get over the hump, and I'm sure (/s) he would agree that Wisconsin scoring 70 points on us was 1 player's fault. I'm sure too. He absolutely said Pelini couldn't get over the hump. Probably the only negative thing he said about Pelini, right? Right? Quote Link to comment
Moiraine Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 9 minutes ago, TheSker said: I'm sure too. He absolutely said Pelini couldn't get over the hump. Probably the only negative thing he said about Pelini, right? Right? Do you really think that's a good argument? To state the obvious, there are different standards for what a person should/will say when they're the head football coach in front of the cameras vs a person talking about their team on an internet forum. Especially when said person was coached by the guy and has a personal relationship with him. Quote Link to comment
Guy Chamberlin Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 Right. And last I checked, a coach who can't get a team over the hump at the University of Nebraska should probably be fired. So that's a pretty big negative. I'm not saying Bo Pelini hurt the program more than Daniel Davie did --- no one who witnessed Davie's single handed betrayal of the team would ever say that -- but Bo was mysteriously bad on defense during his last four seasons. 1 Quote Link to comment
TheSker Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 1 minute ago, Moiraine said: Do you really think that's a good argument? To state the obvious, there are different standards for what a person should/will say when they're the head football coach in front of the cameras vs a person talking about their team on an internet forum. Especially when said person was coached by the guy and has a personal relationship with him. No "argument" needed...... Especially when Frost knows "the guy" pretty well. I'm glad the Riley era is over and Frosty is here. You? Quote Link to comment
TheSker Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 2 minutes ago, Guy Chamberlin said: -- but Bo was mysteriously bad on defense during his last four seasons. Honestly and seriously Guy, I couldn't agree more. I think Pelini's coaching skills are very good. Barrett Ruud credits Pelini for his teaching skills. Pelini obviously did well out of the chute for YSU. I don't think Pelini is fond of recruiting. Ultimately, the NFL might be his place again. 2 Quote Link to comment
Redux Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 Different players, different seasons, same problems. Bo Pelini isn't a bad coach, he's just overly stubborn and couldn't recruit the talent needed to run his system. If you can't do it, you build a staff that can. He refused to do that. That's a MASSIVE him problem and one of the MANY reasons he is at fault for letting Wisconsin embarass us over and over and over. 3 Quote Link to comment
TheSker Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 9 minutes ago, Redux said: Different players, different seasons, same problems. Not true. Pelini had among the worst defensive performances, yet among the best single season defenses. Quote Link to comment
Redux Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 10 minutes ago, TheSker said: Not true. Pelini had among the worst defensive performances, yet among the best single season defenses. Problems: -Adjusting to overcome one play that continuously torches them -Having depth to rotate in if one player is struggling -Having healthy depth (7 effing years of saying "If only we were healthy....) -Having necessary talent to execute scheme You could look at any of the 7 years and point to a game or 4 where those problems absolutely crushed us. 2 Quote Link to comment
Redux Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 2008- 1st year growing pains 2009- No QB, no offense (really sad since one of best defenses in history) 2010- Big 12 screwed us and and and Martinez got hurt 2011- New league growing pains, and Martinez got hurt 2012- Defense got hurt 2013- Martinez got hurt 2014- Eichorst screwed us Sound about right? 1 Quote Link to comment
TheSker Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 18 minutes ago, Redux said: Problems: -Adjusting to overcome one play that continuously torches them Well, there is that whole jet sweep thing. What else ya got? Quote Link to comment
Redux Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 14 hours ago, TheSker said: Well, there is that whole jet sweep thing. What else ya got? Yes.....the jet sweep would be the big example of him not being able to adjust or defend against a single play. Are you confused or agreeing that it was one of his staple problems. I'm guessing confused. 1 Quote Link to comment
TheSker Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 1 minute ago, Redux said: Yes.....the jet sweep would be the big exame of him not being able to adjust or defend against a single play. The question is.....is it the ONLY example you have? Quote Link to comment
deedsker Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 Ohio State's zone read for the 30th time. 2 Quote Link to comment
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