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One thing that should concern all Americans is the growing anger from the Left that is promoting or resorting to violence since Trump was elected.  I fully understand Trump used fiery rhetoric at rallies in 2016 and condemn those too, but the trend since Trumps election against Republicans is prevalent and downright scary. 

 

1. June 14 2017-A Progressive maniac opens fire at a GOP baseball practice which could have killed all Republican members there had the Capitol Police not been present, including my local Congressman who is a family friend.

 

2. November 4, 2017-A neighbor who sympathizes with the left assaulted Rand Paul breaking his ribs among other injuries he suffered. 

 

3. June 2018-Democrat Maxine Waters calls on Liberals to not allow Republicans to eat or sleep and stated "If you see anybody from the Cabinet in a restsurant, dept store, or gas station, get out and create a crowd and push back on them and tell them they are not welcome anymore, anywhere."

 

4. June 2018-Sarah Sanders told to leave restaurant where she and family were enjoying a meal.

 

5. July 2018-Cory Booker delivers speech encouraging crowd to "Get up in the face" of Congress officials they dont agree with.

 

6. Mitch McConell chased out of restaurant by angry left mob.

 

7. GOP House Candidate Rudy Peters attacked by man with switchblade by man screaming "Fu*k Trump."

 

8. Ted Cruz and wife chased out of restaurant by angry left mob.

 

9. October 2018-Hillary Clinton promotes the lack of civility on the Left and states that civility can start again onky if the Dems take control. In other words its ok for Progressives to continue to be uncivil if they are not in power.

 

10. October 2018-Former Obama Atty General states that, "when the opposition goes low, we kick them."

 

This is just a short list and does not include the over the top tactics we have seen from some comedians and members of Hollywood as well as in recent weeks in DC with the Kavanugh hearings. We have also seen Antifa and other left wing radical groups use their tactics to shut down free speech by Conservative voices like Ben Shapiro and others. I am fully supportive of peaceful protests in our nation but it appears that key voices in the left are pushing for intimidation and confrontation instead of peaceful protests. I am in full agreement with Rand Paul that somebody is going to get seriously injured or killed if this trend continues....and he is speaking from experience.

 

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All very unacceptable.  I just wish our own President would not promote violence over political issues.

 

Trump warns evangelicals of 'violence' if GOP loses in the midterms

But..but...but...he's a street fighter.

 

Watch Donald Trump’s History of Violence

 

But...the right loves him for it.

 

A look at the data on domestic terrorism and who’s behind it

 

 

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8 minutes ago, BigRedBuster said:

 

 

 

Stop deflecting BRB...I stated above I did not condone Trumps rhetoric in 2016 and am talking about a TREND among MANY different voices on the Democratic side SINCE Trumps election. If you want to deflect to bash Trump why dont you just create a new thread titled "I hate Trump" and include everything you are angry about. Now if you care to respond to the 10 examples I provided feel free to do so in this thread.   

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I guess I don't get the point of this topic.  What would you like for those of us on the left that are not doing the things described above to do?  

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32 minutes ago, HuskerNation1 said:

 

Stop deflecting BRB...I stated above I did not condone Trumps rhetoric in 2016 and am talking about a TREND among MANY different voices on the Democratic side SINCE Trumps election. If you want to deflect to bash Trump why dont you just create a new thread titled "I hate Trump" and include everything you are angry about. Now if you care to respond to the 10 examples I provided feel free to do so in this thread.   

I'm not deflecting at all.  I specifically said that the violence you listed is unacceptable.  

 

However, Trump is the leader of our country and he should be setting the tone in the country.  Instead of trying to calm violence for political purposes, I've shown where he has promoted it.  He also has warned America about violence if the GOP loses.  Why would he need to do that????  I've also shown reasons for taking Trump's warning serious when you consider how violent the right has been.

 

 

Your post is nothing more than to try to condemn one side by acting like the left is so violent that we all should be supporting the right politically...you know....because they are sitting around singing Kumbaya.  

 

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9 minutes ago, BigRedBuster said:

I'm not deflecting at all.  I specifically said that the violence you listed is unacceptable.  

 

However, Trump is the leader of our country and he should be setting the tone in the country.  Instead of trying to calm violence for political purposes, I've shown where he has promoted it.  He also has warned America about violence if the GOP loses.  Why would he need to do that????  I've also shown reasons for taking Trump's warning serious when you consider how violent the right has been.

 

 

Your post is nothing more than to try to condemn one side by acting like the left is so violent that we all should be supporting the right politically...you know....because they are sitting around singing Kumbaya.  

 

 

Trumps comments in the CNN article you posted was referring to all the recent violence from the Left...he was not calling on taking violent actions or intimidation as was the case in the 10 examples I provided.  

 

How many Democrats in Congress have been shot at or attacked at their home in the past couple years. How many Democrats in Congress have been chased out of restaurants? Please share with me those examples you have.  

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Just now, HuskerNation1 said:

How many Democrats in Congress have been shot at or attacked at their home in the past couple years. How many Democrats in Congress have been chased out of restaurants? Please share with me those examples you have.  

 

Totally unacceptable.  Why do you think hate crimes have risen recently?

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25 minutes ago, StPaulHusker said:

I guess I don't get the point of this topic.  What would you like for those of us on the left that are not doing the things described above to do?  

 

Call on your Democratic leaders to condemn it...acknowledge its a growing problem with the left... with both elected officials and activists.  Thats a starting point. 

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3 minutes ago, HuskerNation1 said:

 

Call on your Democratic leaders to condemn it...acknowledge its a growing problem with the left... with both elected officials and activists.  Thats a starting point. 

Those Democratic leaders aren't any less your leaders than my leaders.

 

I don't know where you live.  But, I don't have any Democrats representing me in Washington and I'm not a Democrat.

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4 minutes ago, BigRedBuster said:

Why do you think there is a spike in hate crimes?  This is a great topic and a growing concern of mine.  Thanks for starting it.

 

FBI: US hate crimes rise for second straight year

 

You are attempting to intermix a different topic to create confusion and derail the topic at hand. If you are concerned about hate crime start a new thread on it. This thread is focused on violence and intimidation TARGETING elected Republicans that leading voices on the left are inciting.  

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Just now, BigRedBuster said:

Those Democratic leaders aren't any less your leaders than my leaders.

 

I don't know where you live.  But, I don't have any Democrats representing me in Washington and I'm not a Democrat.

 

As an American you can contact any elected leader with your concerns...and it appears you understand how to engage in forums and social media...you can use those avenues to condemn this behavior.   

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Just now, HuskerNation1 said:

 

You are attempting to intermix a different topic to create confusion and derail the topic at hand. If you are concerned about hate crime start a new thread on it. This thread is focused on violence and intimidation TARGETING elected Republicans that leading voices on the left are inciting.  

Oh....I thought maybe it would be about political violence and when a President promotes it....I thought that would be a good point of discussion.

 

Let me ask you this.  When a normally non-violent kid on a play ground gets confronted by a bully, does that normally non-violent kid ever have any type of violent reaction towards the bully?

 

So....we have a society where this violence is not the norm.  We throw a bully into the mix that has promoted violence towards the other side.  Now....as unacceptable as it is......do you see any reason why a normal response from the other side might be violent?

 

Again....It is not acceptable and I don't condone it.

2 minutes ago, HuskerNation1 said:

 

As an American you can contact any elected leader with your concerns...and it appears you understand how to engage in forums and social media...you can use those avenues to condemn this behavior.   

I've said I condemn it.  I've never supported it.  I've said that to anyone in any discussion I've ever had about it.

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I want to start by saying that these tactics are irresponsible in some cases and reprehensible in others. 

 

32 minutes ago, HuskerNation1 said:

One thing that should concern all Americans is the growing anger from the Left that is promoting or resorting to violence since Trump was elected.  I fully understand Trump used fiery rhetoric at rallies in 2016 and condemn those too, but the trend since Trumps election against Republicans is prevalent and downright scary. 

 

1. June 14 2017-A Progressive maniac opens fire at a GOP baseball practice which could have killed all Republican members there had the Capitol Police not been present, including my local Congressman who is a family friend.  This is one of the reprehensible examples. Person with a mental illness snaps and opens fire. I think this is more of a mental health issue than a party line attack. You can't start blaming the entire party for a lone wolf, or party's would be held responsible for other things done in their name by the mentally unstable.

 

2. November 4, 2017-A neighbor who sympathizes with the left assaulted Rand Paul breaking his ribs among other injuries he suffered. This guy's an a$$hole. An unintelligent human who had nothing left in his argument against Paul and resorted to his baser more primal instincts.

 

3. June 2018-Democrat Maxine Waters calls on Liberals to not allow Republicans to eat or sleep and stated "If you see anybody from the Cabinet in a restsurant, dept store, or gas station, get out and create a crowd and push back on them and tell them they are not welcome anymore, anywhere." I'm okay with having debate with members of government, but there is a time and place. Walters just seems to be stoking a fire here and asking for an issue to come up. Rhetoric like this needs to be tempered. Be passionate but reasonable.

 

4. June 2018-Sarah Sanders told to leave restaurant where she and family were enjoying a meal. This one I think goes back to the business' right to refuse service to whom ever they want. Just like the Colorado baker. For religious reasons, declined to bake a gay wedding cake. Maybe Sanders behaved in a way that went against the business owners belief system. Their choice to deal with the consequences of denying service.

 

5. July 2018-Cory Booker delivers speech encouraging crowd to "Get up in the face" of Congress officials they dont agree with. See 3. Time and place and try to be patient if the person you are speaking to is ignoring you. 

 

6. Mitch McConell chased out of restaurant by angry left mob. Again, see 3. 

 

7. GOP House Candidate Rudy Peters attacked by man with switchblade by man screaming "Fu*k Trump." See 1. 

 

8. Ted Cruz and wife chased out of restaurant by angry left mob. See 3

 

9. October 2018-Hillary Clinton promotes the lack of civility on the Left and states that civility can start again onky if the Dems take control. In other words its ok for Progressives to continue to be uncivil if they are not in power. I'll start by saying Clinton and her husband seemed shady for a while. Didn't vote for her. She thought she was going to be the next president, partly because the person she was running against seemed to be an uncivil, brash, New York business man. She saw that opponent tap into a deep anger in a portion of our populous that had never been explored before. Usually the person acting more civil would win out. They seem more reasoned, more thoughtful. She lost and doesn't see a reason to maintain that same decorum if it's going to cost you a job. I don't want any of our leaders acting the way I've witnessing. I don't think it's good to drum up that kind of movement because an individual can have angry thoughts. That same person will usually understand that to behave in such a way and act on their angrier impulses would be frowned upon by society. Put that person in a group who all have been lathered up in anger, and there is a strength in numbers mentality. It makes it worse if those doing the lathering are leaders. Both sides need to stop "energizing" their bases in these ways. 

 

10. October 2018-Former Obama Atty General states that, "when the opposition goes low, we kick them." This was taken from an interview from CNN. There was more to the quote. Basically stating "turning the other cheek" isn't going to work anymore.  "When I say we kick them, I don't mean we do anything inappropriate, we don't do anything illegal, but we have to be tough and we have to fight," he said later.

 

This is just a short list and does not include the over the top tactics we have seen from some comedians and members of Hollywood as well as in recent weeks in DC with the Kavanugh hearings. We have also seen Antifa and other left wing radical groups use their tactics to shut down free speech by Conservative voices like Ben Shapiro and others. I am fully supportive of peaceful protests in our nation but it appears that key voices in the left are pushing for intimidation and confrontation instead of peaceful protests. I am in full agreement with Rand Paul that somebody is going to get seriously injured or killed if this trend continues....and he is speaking from experience.

 

 

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BRB....You are trying to blame Trump for the actions of others in the ten factual examples I provided. You have already shared how much you hate Trump, but I think that is clouding your judgment here.  We are seeing GOP members of Congress....not Democratic members of Congress....being targeted over and over. We have the former Dem Presidential nominee just this week stating it was ok to not be civil, and the former Atty General for the last Dem President stating to kick Republicans. 

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1 minute ago, HuskerNation1 said:

You have already shared how much you hate Trump,

And...you've shared how much you hate the left.  And...this isn't clouding your judgement?

 

I'm simply adding to the conversation.  I'm trying to figure out why this rise in violence started somewhere in 2016.  Any ideas?

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Just now, HuskerNation1 said:

BRB....You are trying to blame Trump for the actions of others in the ten factual examples I provided. You have already shared how much you hate Trump, but I think that is clouding your judgment here.  We are seeing GOP members of Congress....not Democratic members of Congress....being targeted over and over. We have the former Dem Presidential nominee just this week stating it was ok to not be civil, and the former Atty General for the last Dem President stating to kick Republicans

Again, this is out of context. I don't think either side is behaving in a way I'd want my children to emulate. I hate "what-aboutism" and "but he started it", but this did get particularly nasty when Donald Trump started acting this way and was then reinforced by cheering crowds.

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Just now, BigRedBuster said:

And...you've shared how much you hate the left.  And...this isn't clouding your judgement?

 

I have never said I hate the left...meanwhile you have specifically called him multiple names just in the past week and talked about how much you cannot stand the guy. Again if you are interested in staying on topic I will be happy to have dialogue. 

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1 minute ago, Mike Mcdee said:

Again, this is out of context. I don't think either side is behaving in a way I'd want my children to emulate. I hate "what-aboutism" and "but he started it", but this did get particularly nasty when Donald Trump started acting this way and was then reinforced by cheering crowds.

 

We're supposed to be calling politicians and telling them to stop promoting violence....I wonder if HuskerNation1 is calling Trump and telling him to stop inciting his rally crowds.

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1 minute ago, HuskerNation1 said:

I have never said I hate the left.

I've never said I hate Trump.  Interestingly...it's a word I refuse to use when it pertains to a person.  It's just a personal moral issue I have.

 

2 minutes ago, HuskerNation1 said:

meanwhile you have specifically called him multiple names

 

Did I offend the poor little snowflake?  You really are offended that I call Trump names?  Really???  This is the guy who got elected and gets cheered at rallies when he makes up childish names for people.

3 minutes ago, HuskerNation1 said:

Again if you are interested in staying on topic I will be happy to have dialogue. 

 

I'm trying to stay on topic.  You are making this about me instead of the political violence the topic is about.

 

I asked earlier in a post.   Why do you think this violence started rising in 2016?

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2 minutes ago, BigRedBuster said:

 

We're supposed to be calling politicians and telling them to stop promoting violence....I wonder if HuskerNation1 is calling Trump and telling him to stop inciting his rally crowds.

 

Hey I have voiced my concerns with Trumps tweets and responded when I dont agree with he guy. There are many things he has said I dont always agree with. But again...please share with me when Democratic Senators have been shot at, attacked at their homes or chased out of restaurants while eating with their families. 

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1 minute ago, HuskerNation1 said:

But again...please share with me when Democratic Senators have been shot at, attacked at their homes or chased out of restaurants while eating with their families. 

I've condemned those actions.  Did you call Trump and tell him to stop?

 

Any comments in the other thread?

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2 minutes ago, BigRedBuster said:

I've never said I hate Trump.  Interestingly...it's a word I refuse to use when it pertains to a person.  It's just a personal moral issue I have.

 

 

Did I offend the poor little snowflake?  You really are offended that I call Trump names?  Really???  This is the guy who got elected and gets cheered at rallies when he makes up childish names for people.

 

I'm trying to stay on topic.  You are making this about me instead of the political violence the topic is about.

 

I asked earlier in a post.   Why do you think this violence started rising in 2016?

 

Why has violence targeting GOP officials risen since the Dems lost power after the 2016 election?  Hmm...let me think about that. Could it be that the Left and Resistance movement has refused to accept the will of the American people and instilled this in the minds of the American left. We are already hearing talks of impeaching Trump and now Kavanaugh. 

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1 minute ago, HuskerNation1 said:

We are already hearing talks of impeaching Trump and now Kavanaugh. 

Impeachment is violence?

1 minute ago, HuskerNation1 said:

and Resistance movement

Is this the "resistance" that I'm a part of?

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4 minutes ago, BigRedBuster said:

I've condemned those actions.  Did you call Trump and tell him to stop?

 

Any comments in the other thread?

 

If your sole focus is to blame Trump and stay off topic I am not going to respond anymore.  There are plenty of anti-Trump threads in here already I am sure your venom toward Trump can be used there.  Move along now...

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2 minutes ago, HuskerNation1 said:

Could it be that the Left and Resistance movement has refused to accept the will of the American people and instilled this in the minds of the American left.

It couldn't be at all that the candidate who won promoted violence within his followers.

 

Interesting.

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Just now, HuskerNation1 said:

 

If your sole focus is to blame Trump and stay off topic I am not going to respond anymore.  There are plenty of anti-Trump threads in here already I am sure your venom toward Trump can be used there.  Move along now...

I've condemned the left for their violence.  I'm not sure what more you want me to say.  :dunno

 

Don't you think it beneficial to discuss the cause of why the rhetoric in this country has risen to the levels it has?

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Just in case anyone wonders where this topic comes from:

 

 

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Trump Is Going to Hit the ‘Violent Democrats’ Button Hard—and It’ll Work

Last week, in his meeting with evangelical leaders, Donald Trump unveiled what I expect will be his closing argument in this campaign, and yes, you should worry about it.

 

The argument is to link the idea of a Democratic victory to violence. Yes, it’s grotesque and insane, and insanely irresponsible, and all kinds of things. But it also might work.

 

Democrats should not underestimate this—should not underestimate, that is, the possibility that this midterm might not follow the normal script. If you haven’t been worrying too much about this, I’d advise you add it to your list.

 

 

Apparently, "violence" includes telling Cons they can't eat at your restaurant, but any kind of opposition will do.  The goal is to demonize your political opponent, and it works for a group of impressionable people.  Whatever Donald says they believe, and here's an example.

 

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2 minutes ago, knapplc said:

Just in case anyone wonders where this topic comes from:

 

 

 

Apparently, "violence" includes telling Cons they can't eat at your restaurant, but any kind of opposition will do.  The goal is to demonize your political opponent, and it works for a group of impressionable people.  Whatever Donald says they believe, and here's an example.

 

 

This is an article written by somebody opposed to Trump in which Trump never called on his supporters to use violence. Moreover most of the 10 items I noted above had already occurred before he made these comments.  

 

How many Dems have been shot at, attacked, or chased out of restaurants?

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2 hours ago, HuskerNation1 said:

10. October 2018-Former Obama Atty General states that, "when the opposition goes low, we kick them."

 

I'm sure somewhere you were clutching your pearls when a former congressman advocated gun violence if Trump lost the election.  Right?

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48 minutes ago, HuskerNation1 said:

 

Call on your Democratic leaders to condemn it...acknowledge its a growing problem with the left... with both elected officials and activists.  Thats a starting point. 

 

 

 

This is kind of funny, because you expressed something similar a few days ago, and when I gave you dozens of sources and context that fleshed out what you're asking for...

 

you just ignored it.

 

So, here it is again:

 

On 10/9/2018 at 5:18 PM, Landlord said:

 

 

 

You're just not looking.

 

 

 

Obama Condemns 'Criminal' Ferguson Violence

 

"There are productive ways of responding... and there are destructive ways of responding... those are criminal acts. People should be prosecuted if they engage in criminal acts."

 

Obama Condemns 'Vicious, Calculated and Despicable' Dallas Shootings

 

“We are horrified over these events and we stand united with the people and the police department in Dallas,” he continued. The U.S. police have “an extraordinarily difficult job,” ge said, and “today is a wrenching reminder of the sacrifices they make for us.”

 

Obama: 'Nothing justifies violence against law enforcement'

 

"President Obama said the fatal shootings of three Louisiana police were "the work of cowards who speak for no one," telling reporters late Sunday afternoon, "Nothing justifies violence against law enforcement.” He added, "My fellow Americans, only we can prove, through words and through deeds, that we will not be divided, and we’re going to have to keep doing it again and again and again. That’s how this country gets united. That’s how we bring people of good will together." In the statement, Obama condemned the attacks "in the strongest sense of the word. These are attacks on public servants, on the rule of law, and on civilized society, and they have to stop," Obama said."

 

Obama condemns violence at Trump rally

 

"We saw in San Jose these protesters starting to pelt stuff [at] Trump supporters. That's not what our democracy is about," Obama said. "That's not what you do. There's no room for violence. There's no place for shouting. There's no room for a politics that fails to at least listen to the other side — even if you vehemently disagree. Because I believe if you've got the better argument, then you don't need to do that. Just go out there and organize and persuade."

 

Black Lives Matter condemns Dallas, pushes forward with protests

 

'"Black activists have raised the call for an end to violence, not an escalation of it. Yesterday's attack was the result of the actions of a lone gunman. To assign the actions of one person to an entire movement is dangerous and irresponsible. We continue our efforts to bring about a better world for all of us," BLM wrote.'

 

‘Shooting police is not a civil rights tactic’: Activists condemn killing of officers

 

“There are more questions right now than answers,” Mckesson said of the shooting in Baton Rouge. “The movement began as a response to violence, it was a call to end violence, and that call to end violence was true two years ago, was true 10 days ago, and is true today. Our call has been a call for justice, a living breathing justice,” he said. “A just world is a world where people don’t experience the trauma in the first place.”

 

“We all denounce the killing of police officers,” Al Sharpton said. “We don’t want to see this movement, which began with the killing of Eric Garner, smeared as an anti-police movement. We certainly don’t condone violence.”

 

Black Lives Matter Leader Condemns Violence at St. Paul Protest

 

Rashad Turner, who leads Black Lives Matter in St. Paul, tells TIME that he blames much of the violence on people who he says weren’t from the area.

“There were people outside of the community I didn’t recognize,” he says. “They were doing stupid stuff, and it’s something we don’t tolerate.”

 

Pelosi condemns ‘violent actions’ of antifa protesters

 

“Our democracy has no room for inciting violence or endangering the public, no matter the ideology of those who commit such acts,” Pelosi said in a statement released late Tuesday. “The violent actions of people calling themselves antifa in Berkeley this weekend deserve unequivocal condemnation, and the perpetrators should be arrested and prosecuted.”

 

Bernie Sanders Condemns Threats Against Ann Coulter Speech At Berkeley

 

“To me, it’s a sign of intellectual weakness,” he said. “If you can’t ask Ann Coulter in a polite way questions which expose the weakness of her arguments, if all you can do is boo, or shut her down, or prevent her from coming, what does that tell the world?”

“What are you afraid of ― her ideas? Ask her the hard questions,” he concluded. “Confront her intellectually. Booing people down, or intimidating people, or shutting down events, I don’t think that that works in any way.”

 

Clinton condemns attacks on Trump supporters

 

“I condemn all violence in our political arena,” Clinton told CNN’s Jake Tapper in an interview broadcast Friday. “I condemned it when Donald Trump was inciting it and congratulating people who were engaging in it. I condemn it by those who are taking violent protests to physical assault against Donald Trump.”

Clinton said the violence has to end but accused the real estate mogul of setting “a very bad example.” Trump has called his rallies “lovefests,” though he has also encouraged his supporters to “knock the crap out of” anyone they see carrying tomatoes and offered to pay the legal fees of supporters who are charged with violence at his rallies.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Okay, so this first video we don't know who it is, where it is, or when it is. Do we? From Hannity's video it supposedly is in NYC following the Eric Garner case, but is this or isn't it BLM? Who decides? How do we know? 

 

The second video....I mean. It seems pretty glaringly obvious that it's a non-literal vent session. There is no 'threat' to kill white people here. Sounds like someone expressing frustration. Also seems no more harmful than plenty of comments made in these P&R threads which are very clearly not to be taken literally.

 

Third video, again, who are these people? Are they officially associated with BLM in any capacity, or is it because there are people in BLM shirts there (not speaking) that the group is now representative of the movement? Once again, I don't see or hear anyone advocating for murder (maybe the guy at the beginning was saying something about a 'pistol' but I couldn't actually make it out). I've got issue with this approach, as it seems to encourage non-peaceful conflict/protest (weirdly enough, something Obama and many others also always encourage?), but so far I'm not exactly sure what actionable/demonstrable thing you're upset at Obama for not criticizing specifically.

 

The first part of the Hannity video is the most egregious of all these examples of anything directly related to BLM, and I'm not a fan of it.

 

I guess I'm still missing what you are expecting out of Obama? Something along the lines of, "Not only do I condemn violence and hate and support peace and justice, but also you 100 marchers in St. Paul on August 29, you shouldn't chant things like that"? 

 

At any rate, since the one video of marchers chanting that they wanted dead cops was specifically during the Eric Garner grand jury events, here's some remarks from Obama specifically related to that/at the time:

 

 

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"And there’s going to be, I’m sure, additional statements by law enforcement. My tradition is not to remark on cases where there may still be an investigation. But I want everybody to understand that this week, in the wake of Ferguson, we initiated a task force whose job it is to come back to me with specific recommendations about how we strengthen the relationship between law enforcement and communities of color and minority communities that feel that bias is taking place; that we are going to take specific steps to improve the training and the work with state and local governments when it comes to policing in communities of color; that we are going to be scrupulous in investigating cases where we are concerned about the impartiality and accountability that’s taking place. 

  

"And as I said when I met with folks both from Ferguson and law enforcement and clergy and civil rights activists, I said this is an issue that we’ve been dealing with for too long and it’s time for us to make more progress than we’ve made. And I’m not interested in talk; I’m interested in action. And I am absolutely committed as President of the United States to making sure that we have a country in which everybody believes in the core principle that we are equal under the law. 

  

"So I just got off the phone with my Attorney General, Eric Holder. He will have more specific comments about the case in New York. But I want everybody to know here, as well as everybody who may be viewing my remarks here today, we are not going to let up until we see a strengthening of the trust and a strengthening of the accountability that exists between our communities and our law enforcement. 

  

"And I say that as somebody who believes that law enforcement has an incredibly difficult job; that every man or woman in uniform are putting their lives at risk to protect us; that they have the right to come home, just like we do from our jobs; that there’s real crime out there that they’ve got to tackle day in and day out -- but that they’re only going to be able to do their job effectively if everybody has confidence in the system. 

  

"And right now, unfortunately, we are seeing too many instances where people just do not have confidence that folks are being treated fairly. And in some cases, those may be misperceptions; but in some cases, that’s a reality. And it is incumbent upon all of us, as Americans, regardless of race, region, faith, that we recognize this is an American problem, and not just a black problem or a brown problem or a Native American problem. 

  

"This is an American problem. When anybody in this country is not being treated equally under the law, that’s a problem. And it’s my job as President to help solve it."

 

 

Seems quite in line with the idea of, '...his voice was needed to deescalate the growing anti-cop rhetoric...'

 

Then, right after him, from his attorney general:

 

 

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"I know that substantial numbers of people in New York and across the country will be disappointed and frustrated by the outcome of the state grand jury proceeding today. I know many will plan to voice their disappointment publicly through protests. This is the right of all Americans. But as I have said before, throughout our history, the most successful movements have been those that adhered to the principles of nonviolence. I urge all those inclined to demonstrate tonight and in the days ahead to remain peaceful in their demonstrations, and not to engage in activities that deflect our attention from the very serious matters our nation must confront."

 

 

And if you don't think that is enough, here is a quote from Obama three days before that clip of protestors calling for dead cops:

 

 

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“As long as they’re peaceful, I think they’re necessary,” Obama said during an interview that aired on BET Monday. “When they turn violent then they turn counterproductive.” 

  

“Power concedes nothing without a fight, that’s true , but it’s also true that a country’s conscious has to be triggered by some inconvenience,” Obama said. “The value of peaceful protests, activism … is it reminds the society this is not yet done.”

 

 

If that's not enough, the other video from Hannity's clip is from a protest march in St. Paul. Per news reports I found, that march started and ended completely peacefully, with no injuries or arrests. Additionally, Rashad Turner, organizer of Black Lives St. Paul, reminded protesters to remain peaceful. "Our opponents will claim victory if they push someone over the line. I don't know about you, but let's not give them the satisfaction."

 

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7 minutes ago, HuskerNation1 said:

 

Hey I have voiced my concerns with Trumps tweets and responded when I dont agree with he guy. There are many things he has said I dont always agree with. But again...please share with me when Democratic Senators have been shot at, attacked at their homes or chased out of restaurants while eating with their families. 

I'm pretty sure that Gabby Giffords was shot at and hit with real live bullets from a deranged right winger. She lived. There were 6 other people that didn't, including a child. Again, I don't really blame the GOP for this guys action. 

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2 hours ago, HuskerNation1 said:

2. November 4, 2017-A neighbor who sympathizes with the left assaulted Rand Paul breaking his ribs among other injuries he suffered. 

 

Perhaps the neighbor was just taking Rand at his own words?

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26 minutes ago, HuskerNation1 said:

There are many things he has said I dont always agree with. But again...please share with me when Democratic Senators have been shot at, attacked at their homes or chased out of restaurants while eating with their families. 

 

1 hour ago, HuskerNation1 said:

Stop deflecting HuskerNation1...I stated above I did not condone ANTIFAs methods and am talking about a TREND among MANY different voices on the Republican side SINCE Trumps election. If you want to deflect to bash the Left why dont you just create a new thread titled "I hate the Left" and include everything you are angry about. Now if you care to respond to the 13 examples I provided feel free to do so in this thread.   

 

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2 hours ago, HuskerNation1 said:

1. June 14 2017-A Progressive maniac opens fire at a GOP baseball practice which could have killed all Republican members there had the Capitol Police not been present, including my local Congressman who is a family friend.

Maybe you've heard of Gabrielle Giffords, who had an assassination attempt on her and was shot in the head by a Conservative maniac during a rally.  People actually did die on this one, though.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gabrielle_Giffords

 

It's not just the Left

 

 

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54 minutes ago, Mike Mcdee said:

I'm pretty sure that Gabby Giffords was shot at and hit with real live bullets from a deranged right winger. She lived. There were 6 other people that didn't, including a child. Again, I don't really blame the GOP for this guys action. 

 

I condemn that attack but evidence showed he was not an angry right winger.

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Everything is about the angry violent left. Maybe there is a reason the left is angry? Maybe there is a reason people of color are angry at law enforcement and women are angry at men. Maybe theres a reason I called you out on white supremicist rhetoric a few days ago and maybe the reason for all of this isn't political at all. Maybe people are just fed up with the blatent oppresion Trump and his followers seem to stand for

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26 minutes ago, StPaulHusker said:

Maybe you've heard of Gabrielle Giffords, who had an assassination attempt on her and was shot in the head by a Conservative maniac during a rally.  People actually did die on this one, though.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gabrielle_Giffords

 

It's not just the Left

 

 

 

Jared Loughner has been described as an independent and a liberal my friends close to him.  Its just not accurate to state otherwise.

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/heavy.com/news/2017/06/jared-loughner-political-affiliation-democrat-republican-liberal-politics-conservative-new-york-times-you-tube-lee-sarah-palin/amp/

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1 minute ago, Nebfanatic said:

Everything is about the angry violent left. Maybe there is a reason the left is angry? Maybe there is a reason people of color are angry at law enforcement and women are angry at men. Maybe theres a reason I called you out on white supremicist rhetoric a few days ago and maybe the reason for all of this isn't political at all. Maybe people are just fed up with the blatent oppresion Trump and his followers seem to stand for

 

Thank you for acknowledging the Left and their extreme anger we are seeing in 2018. 

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In reference to Landlords post 9056 above...stop slandering me. You just put up a statement attributed to me that I never said...or are you going to deny that you did this?

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2 hours ago, StPaulHusker said:

I guess I don't get the point of this topic.  What would you like for those of us on the left that are not doing the things described above to do?  

 

I kind of get a "why aren't peaceful Muslims condemning terrorism!?" vibe from it personally.

 

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1 minute ago, HuskerNation1 said:

 

Umm...stop slandering me. You just put up a statement attributed to me that I never said...or are you going to deny that you did this?

Don't worry, we know you wouldn't say those things.

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9 minutes ago, HuskerNation1 said:

 

Jared Loughner has been described as an independent and a liberal my friends close to him.  Its just not accurate to state otherwise.

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/heavy.com/news/2017/06/jared-loughner-political-affiliation-democrat-republican-liberal-politics-conservative-new-york-times-you-tube-lee-sarah-palin/amp/

 

It's debatable how he leaned before he became a mass murder.  Based on who his target was, I will stand by what i wrote.

 

You do recognize that someone from the Left experienced the same violence as Scalise, right?  You seem to have glossed over that very important part.

 

 

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6 minutes ago, StPaulHusker said:

 

It's debatable how he leaned before he became a mass murder.  Based on who his target was, I will stand by what i wrote.

 

You do recognize that someone from the Left experienced the same violence as Scalise, right?  You seem to have glossed over that very important part.

 

 

 

Yes I condemn all violence against our elected officials which is why the Lefts 2018 rhetoric and antics are so conerning...someone else is going to get shot.

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Just now, HuskerNation1 said:

 

Yes I condone all violence against our elected officials which is why the Lefts 2018 rhetoric and antics are so conerning...someone else is gping to get shot.

Well at least the truth comes out that you condone the violence.  Now we can move on

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Just now, HuskerNation1 said:

 

Yes I condone all violence against our elected officials which is why the Lefts 2018 rhetoric and antics are so conerning...someone else is gping to get shot.

 

 

If we just had someone who was in a position to bring people together and speak out at rallies against violence towards the other side.

 

Maybe some day.

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29 minutes ago, HuskerNation1 said:

 

I condemn that attack but evidence showed he was not an angry right winger.

 

The protestors in the streets weren't black lives matter. Your dismissals mean nothing because you condemn out to the other side of your mouth the same things you defend. 

 

 

 

21 minutes ago, HuskerNation1 said:

In reference to Landlords post 9056 above...stop slandering me. You just put up a statement attributed to me that I never said...or are you going to deny that you did this?

 

No I will not deny it. You and I and everyone else knows exactly what I did and why I did it. You probably even know along with the rest of us how effective it was at revealing your inconsistency and hyper partisan bias. 

 

 

Still waiting on you to address the several links and context given to Obama and Democrats condemning violence and anti cop rhetoric and BLM not being violent. Stillllllllll waiting....

3 minutes ago, HuskerNation1 said:

Yes I condone all violence against our elected officials 

 

 

If only Freud were here.

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2 minutes ago, StPaulHusker said:

Well at least the truth comes out that you condone the violence.  Now we can move on

 

Sorry typing too fast meant to say dont condone/condemn and corrected it.

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