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Well at this point I would do one of two things. 1. Burn Smothers redshirt and let him finish the last 3 games to get experience going forward. Part ties with Martinez. 2. Let Martinez finish out the year so you still have 4 years of Smothers at QB. Frost seems to be going with option 3 sink with Martinez, and bring him back another year as well. Frost says Smothers they aren't looking to redshirt him and seems like he is getting better but isn't there yet. This is the end of his 2nd full season. Maybe we need to take a serious look at the QB coach as well.

I agree with this. I am more along the lines two more years. Want to see a least one more year with a different QB if Martinez comes back, and instead of firing everyone fire guys on the offensive side first including line coach

So Smothers isn't a competent backup? That's a serious question cause Idk it was my understanding he was doing well and if he is and they aren't trying to redshirt him, then Frost had one and failed to utilize him. The reason I'm asking is I do support Frost getting more time but I think this QB situation is potentially a viable reason to replace him, but I would prefer not to start over with a new coach if we can as I am seeing good stuff on defense I like the wr and TEs and Yant is looking good. Heck Frost has drawn up some great plays to get receivers wide open down field but Martinez has missed them consistently

So I'm guessing Smothers isn't any good either since Frost won't play him. I was thinking it was because they were trying to save his redshirt, but Frost said they were not trying to save his redshirt. So either Smothers is bad and we needed to recruit better or Frost is making another bullheaded decision by not playing Smothers. I mean if you still feel like Martinez is the better player fine but don't leave him in the game when he's having a complete meltdown for everyone to see, I felt sorry for Martinez

Adrian has also been a consistent factor as well. I mentioned this before cause I saw a couple other people use the term and I agree. I think Adrian has the yips. It's not uncommon in sports and it is fixable, not sure Adrian can but it is fixable. The thing about the yips it is contagious, other player then begin pressing to account for it and more mistakes like jumping offside happens and it snowballs. I am very convinced this is what's happening on the offensive side of things and it is very fixable, we may need to move on from Martinez, but I have seen enough improvement from the team as a whole that's I still have confidence in Frost.

Actually not so fast. Spencer Petras is kind of a game manager doesn't loose you games. Can't say the say for Martinez. I mean look at the records especially in close games.

Frost doesn't know how to coach the 2 min drill? Did you watch the teams he coached at Oregon and UCF. Frost may have his faults that's not one of them. I think it's more of the case Martinez just folds under pressure, and I wouldn't say Martinez hasn't learned anything at times he looks like a Heisman trophy candidate and just look at his record breaking numbers. Right now it's looking a lot more like a phycological issue rather than a coaching issue

Great point! +1

Good exactly why we need to give Frost more time. Once we turn the corner and learn how to win which we will this team can be scary good. Frost still has the best chance out of any viable coaching option I've seen to turn the program around.

I think if they can get a couple close wins they will get confidence and I can see it snowballing into something really. I think a lot of people see and is why people are willing to give Frost a little more time dispite his record

The stats show they are performing though that was the point of the post. It's good performance not translating to wins.

Yeah

To be fair I have seen way way worse, but agree none the less.

Yeah Frost has got to unhitch his wagon from Martinez going forward if he wants to survive especially if Martinez wants to return another year. Frost would definitely not survive another year of Martinez.

Well the foundation to Husker football has always been the blackshirts and that side of the ball is definitely gotten better. Unfortunately Frost seems all to willing to fall on the sword for Martinez on the Offensive side of the ball.

You've had the same QB and team captain for the last four years making the same bonehead decisions of course that's going to trickle down to the team. So some is definitely on the coaches for not holding the QB position accountable. I wonder if some of that stems from some of the criticism Frost received as a player. He seems to really be digging in. If he's not going to hold the QB position accountable the rest of the team will not be accountable.

Hedley you have made some fantastic post and arguments as I have read many of them. As for recruiting Adrian the coaches job is to recruit talent which Adrian has than teach and develop that talent which they have. Adrian Martinez knows what to do and has shown that, but when it comes down to it he misses or just doesn't do what he is supposed to do at that point its on him. Where I disagree which you is you place a low percentage on the players in year four. Cause if you put a low percentage on the player that means there is no accountability which I think there needs to be even more accountability for a year four player especially one that is a captain.

Even if you can't put it all on Adrian it's a very high percentage. He went into complete meltdown mode yesterday, and has done it several times in close games this season. 4 of 6 losses all by less than 1 possession. Martinez turned the ball over on his last possession. Any time you put in a backup you can expect a drop off in skill or talent, but you need to have someone in case of injury of in our case the starter is in meltdown mode. Frost has brought in backups Cereal, McCaffrey who was certainly not a starter but a backup. Now has Smothers seems to be a good QB I am not sure if they are trying red shirt him cause last year was a convid year, that I would understand, but with the transfer portal it is a little more tricky having a backup when your backup knows they can go start somewhere else.

Starting to maybe agree with that. I'm still in the camp that if he's willing to move on from from Martinez and make a few changes staff wise we give him more time especially with $20 million owed also says to the next head coach we are willing to give you all the fair opportunity you need to succeed. This might be a moot point as I'm not sure Frost is willing to do any of that.

Disagree with him 1000% it's is Adrian Martinez fault he talks about ints and missing open wr that's on Martinez 1000% let's be honest. Where I do agree with him is Martinez with 4 ints and 2 fumbles let's not forget that still sees the field, and that is on Frost. Win or lose he is not holding #2 to the same standards as the rest of the team.

Yeah I don't know why he keeps putting him at there but it is on Frost to have a viable back up, but I'm not sure there are any plays Martinez can execute. He mis reads zone reads all the time. Even on direct snaps he fumbles the ball look at Michigan. Frost refuses to turn the page on Martinez it's going to be his downfall

Frost didn't throw 4 ints and fumble twice yesterday, and miss a half a dozen open wr and complete less than half his passes. In fact he was the one calling the plays that got all those players wide open. The losses this season are on Martinez always have been just don't know why Frost keeps sending him out there time to move on from Martinez not Frost.

Lol that means you had Adrian Martinez address them I bet that went well. Would have loved to seen and heard that.

God I really hopes he leaves. He does almost as much damage as he does good.

I thought Logan Smothers looked pretty good, but are they trying to red shirt him? Would he be eligible for a red shirt, cause if not I think you let him finish the season.