Decoy73

I guess this confirms that the NU Administration reads and learns from Huskerboard.

Of course they wouldn’t. Not trying to be a prick, but it’s just that your point has been discussed ad nauseam already.

Oh. I guess that clears it up.

McDonough is full of sh!t.

Why wasn't Held an option on question #2?

He’d be better than he is with a better position coach.

Yes. I saw that too. Thanks.

To either move on from Frost or not is a decision thats going to be made by Trev, Chancellor Green and President Carter.

There's reason to believe that with a new QB (transfer who's a passer first), and new O-Line, RB and ST coaches, NU could get over the hump and lets say win half of these close games against top 10 teams. As well as not losing to the likes of IL, MN and PU. There's also reason to believe that what we've seen this season is pretty much what we're going to get going forward and a new staff should be brought in. I can see both sides and IMO nobody is "wrong" in wanting Trev to go one way or the other. I do know that we are "close" and that "close" is this program's ceiling as it's put together now. If we play well, it will be a good, tough game against Wisky and we will beat Iowa.

I’m more concerned about the offense needing to get a lot better than the D taking a step back.

Would you still feel that way if he replaces 2-3 offensive coaches and snags a good transfer QB?

How about, don’t?

In all seriousness, though... This seems odds too. If all they're doing is announcing that he's to be kept, why wait? Just send out the statement now. Unless they want to make sure OSU doesn't get ugly? Maybe? But, at this point if they base anything off of the OSU score, then that would be pretty ridiculously stupid. Something seems off...Maybe we'll know more by Monday...

Gus Johnson, I believe.

That’s my interpretation too, but I think timing seems off with this theory. Like they announce the home run hire and then “oh and by the way HCSF won’t be back.” Both the fire and the hire in the same press release would be pretty unprecedented.

You’ve previously stated that it won’t necessarily matter, and I get the reasoning for that, but with that being said. Do you see significant changes on the offensive side of the ball occurring this off-season? Whether it be coaching and/or transfers, especially at QB?

I agree. Unless something has been or is about to be decided regardless of remaining 3 outcomes. Which, I guess would be contrary to what our consensus of the last games mattering is now??

These numbers are crazy. I guess I haven’t been keeping up with all this. Big money being spent, for sure.

A recruit is there for 4-5 and 5 year contacts often get renewed annually so there’s always 4-5 left. We’ve been told this is to reassure recruits. So how is 7 better? I think the 7 year for HCSF was to show him we were giving him more time than the norm to rebuild. There’s a good case to be made that 2020 shouldn’t “count “ as far as expectations go. Remember we didn’t get a spring session. So one could argue we fired him ( if it happens) after 3 “normal “ years.

I’ve been reading Herbie’s Hangout for several weeks now. Good stuff.

Then why do a 7 year contract? What additional “value “ was sought?

Not what I said. But a 7 year deal (vs the standard 5) gives the impression of getting longer to “rebuild.” So my point why did we even do it? If we’re firing after 4 based on W/L, then a 5 year deal would have been better. IMO a shorter initial contact provides for a better sense of urgency.

I agree about the winning and understand why many are calling for a change. But I’m asking why 7 vs the standard 5 year deal? If we fire him, and maybe that’s the right choice, then NU and their 7 year deal essentially was misleading Coach by giving the impression that plenty of time was going to be allowed to right the ship.

If Frost ends up getting let go, and there’s enough reason to do so, then I hope one of the first questions asked at the presser is why in the hell did a 7 year contract get approved when he was hired? Did they not consider what has transpired in regards to his abysmal W/L record as a possibility? How does a near unprecedented 7 year contract not scream “take your time “? If there was any sense of urgency with HCSF, he may have made coaching changes last year. I’m guessing he figured he was safe at least through 5. So if he’s canned, then the 7 year deal was a big “F” up that Chancellor Green needs to show some accountability for, IMO.

For better or worse, I’d say the first two years were not spent learning, but more waiting for his system to take hold and get us rolling over everybody else. I think 13-0 and COTY contributed to this sort of stubbornness. Even though he has since been humbled, it should have been plainly apparent to him in 2018 that he was going to have to do the adjusting. Not the B1G.