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Eeeeeekuls 24 Onsiders 28 University of Nebraska at Lincoln total rushing yardage: 207 University of Nebraska at Lincoln total passing yardage: 229

A lot of newbies. A lot of kids. What was cool was seeing the hordes of red clad fans of all ages downtown again. We got there early and it was quiet. After an hour and a half in the Zoo Bar we headed out and it was like the old days. Glad to see that after two years and especially after all we’ve been through as Husker fans. At the stadium the atmosphere was subdued during most of the first half, but got old time loud as we began to get something on the scoreboard. And yes, the rumors are true: Frost did order an onside kick after one of our scores. Failed of course.

Loud. Heart sunk first half. Then hell broke loose enough times in a row to turn it into the old feeling of a Nebraska game, if you know what I mean. But yes.. LOUD.

It was great to have you and all the others in green. You guys have one tough team!

...headed downtown to our usual pre-game haunt, then to our usual band of goofies in the South Stadium. First time in two years.. couldn't make it last season. We'll be the loudest "Go Big Red" and "Husker Power" screechers in the stadium. Be there or be square! GBR!!

We can be 500 on the year!

I noticed that the vast majority of you guys in this thread about how you're feeling have not been to the score prediction thread in Contest Crib: That's a pretty good place to express your feelings about the upcoming game.

Zow wow etc. A lot of north teams have that color in the mix. North Moscow soccer ("FC Lokomotiv Moscow" in a way) for example and stuff. This is something too.

I don't see anything new in today's extremist attitudes. It was the same when I grew up (long ago). Conservatives were firmly entrenched in their racism and misogyny. Those were the cornerstones of conservative political thought, taken for granted. Liberals were seen as a threat to everything great about America. Liberal's stated viewpoints sounded like efforts to dismantle society in general. And remember the slogans the media focused on? Liberals: "Off the pigs!" (Kill police). Conservatives: "We'd rather be dead than red." (Equating social reforms as Communism). It was crazy then and it's crazy now. What it all had in common then is still the commonality today: Media focus on extremism. Back then the newspapers blared huge above the fold headlines about the strange people running around with placards and writing silly books (Jerry Ruben, Abbie Hoffman et al). TV showed Goldwater and other conservatives with H-bomb mushroom clouds in the background. Same old same ole cycle now: We get things sold back to us by the news and entertainment media. And from that point it balloons from imaginary fears to reality. And on.

Maybe SF will win out the season and we'll all realize how wrong we've been and start editing our disparaging posts. Plus maybe prices of everything will gradually go down. The Russians will back out of Ukraine. Former "president" Trump will apologize to the nation and the world and drop out of the public eye forever. My cat will stop coughing up hairballs when we have company over for dinner. Kids will aspire to be machinists, builders, and will look upon older generations with respect and strive to learn from them and help them when ever they can. Mexican cartels will stop what they're doing and turn themselves in. Joe Biden will ingest copious amounts of Ex-Lax and in a few days start making sense. Drought areas will get slow steady rainfall. Flooding areas will dry up and normalize. Would you praying types mind getting going on that stuff?

As a portion of the fan base I've been waffling between fun/joy and dread at the prospect of going to this week's game against North Dakota. Now that's messed up, not even being able to look forward to what should be a cakewalk for the Huskers. I know I can look forward to a Guinness at The Zoo Bar, but sheesh I should be able to feel good about this game. And I don't.

It's been over 20 years. You're going to see some drama in these fan places.

Well, a fan base is a lot of people, in Nebraska anyway. The "state of the fan base" then means the average feeling about things here. The feelings of the majority? Yes. I've not seen an inclusive poll yet, taken across a large number of us Husker fans, except for a few in here and other boards. If there's a consensus it's a back and forth one and yes it's leaning heavily to getting rid of Frost, finally. His defenders seem to be either quiet now or openly changing their minds. So, the state of the fan base may now be (once again) wondering if we can EVER get somebody who can year in and year out do what T.O. and B.D. did.

1. No 2. Yes 3. Maybe

Mr. Joseph could well do better than Frost has. That ain’t sayin’ much, of course.

I wonder how many "who should our next hc be" threads are going to be coming along in years to come. Thinking about those possibilities took me back to the logic and speculations of past threads like this; pretty much identical as I recall. On some forums around the interwebs we did get past the days of noticing Solich's turn around from the 7 - 7 season to 9 - 3 and then the firing. And the Calahan nonsense and of course the Pelini mud and ironies. Then the "great guy" Riley dragging us completely into the muck of more losses than wins per season, etc. Next, speculation about a local hero who was solid and a champ at the school where he was coaching turned to reality and Moos announced to the world that Buckeye and Wolverine coaches were secretly shaking in their boots. Now, again, we've got our ship sitting upright as Frost keeps telling us, apparently not noticing that it's sitting upright on the bottom of the ocean. And, again like last year, we're speculating as to how long he should be at the helm this season. I feel that he should have been canned instead of had his contract changed. But at least we get a smaller bite our of our revenue butts so maybe the best thing happened. Perhaps Trev could have tendered a warning to him about that first game in O' and Mac Land: Win this or we're letting you go, my friend. I have no idea who to inflict our problems on, but I do like Fickle's age and record. And I'm still afraid that this losing culture we've developed would overwhelm the best of them. It'd have to be somebody who sees that and wants to do the myriad things it'd take to go against that, defeat it, and make us what we deserve as Nebraska fans.

I wonder why it's agreed that Luke Fickle would not leave Cinc. I'm saying I wonder because I just want to know, not because I fully disagree. Couldn't we attract him with all that Nebraska has to offer that Cincinnati does not, such as our amazing fan base, and plenty of monetary incentives? Etc?

I think we can come out victorious in a Grand Pillow Fight. Fighting Parakeets (with that silly U.S.P.S. logo) 24 Oddly Coached Gassed Corn Guys 34 Our rushing 289 Our passing 299

I too expected something else, going by the words spoken by Frost and others on practice observances. Good practice does not necessarily mean a good game, we see (again). I guess their practices are better than under Riley. But their games still are not better.

Yes, it happened. But, not to harp too much on the different eras in football, but things were quite different back then in many different ways. I'd love to see a staff come in here and uncork a Devaney or Dr. Tom winning percentage over many seasons, but the task was hard enough back then and is a whole different ball game these days of transfers/lack of school patriotism/loyalties to fame and money rather than long term team spirit as a driving force etc. 'Bama is literally riding a tide of all the good things right now. Nebraska is washed out to sea.

Yeah. And this is how you lose to a lousy or mediocre team: Nebraska’s possessions after the onside kick nonsense that will live in infamy: punt, punt, interception, punt, punt, interception. Total plays: 23. Total yards: 85. Points: zero. Northwestern possessions after being gifted a comeback opportunity: touchdown, punt, missed field goal, touchdown, punt, punt, ran out the clock. Total plays: 40. Total yards: 214. Points: 14.

^^^^That post got laughed at by somebody, but I find it interesting. Big caveat is that the successful coaches ("without previous HC experience") are of a different era, during (T.O.) our best times, and following on that inertia (Frank, Pelini). In the ensuing years and coaching cycles we literally changed the culture here 180 degrees. Now a new coach will not be coming in to ride the tide of Nebraska power and legitimacy, but will be coming into a decades long losing culture. I guess I get a bit sad when I come around to understanding that, and to the realization that no new coaching staff will be able to retrieve what we once had. Some of us are in the acceptance stage of the grief dynamic that begins with denial.

Honestly, don't blame this loss or most others we've had for so long over the years on O-line or QB etc or Frost's bone-headed calls now and then. We score enough points and gain enough yards to win. It's the D giving up more points, over and over again. IMO. The freaking D. I want Frost gone, too. I do think he's part of the problem. But gain.. that yardage we made. The points. That's good stuff. But the D fails us over and over again by a point or two or three. Another L is the result. Again.

In the post game presser Frost admitted to calling the onside kick. I'd like to hear him admit to some other important mistakes, such as keeping his friend Chinander in spite of the history of allowing just enough points to lose close games at this school.

Yeah. What did we learn? We can do this or that okay.. for a while. Then it's fail city. That, my friends, is COACHING.