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Here's what some experts are saying: Trump’s arguments for necessity of border wall have already been broadly debunked Experts say there is no security crisis, but there is a simple way to fix immigration — and it's not a wall “It simply isn’t true”: former top terrorism official says there’s no terror crisis at the border Migration Policy Institute Senior Fellow Fact-Checks Trump's Border Wall Claims

So one guy working there is now how we determine whether to build multi-billion dollar walls? I respect his opinion, but I think the evidence shows he's wrong.

The wall isn't going to do anything to even slow down immigration. As noted above, the vast majority of undocumented immigrants arrived in the US legally and the vast majority of illegal drug smuggling occurs at legal ports of entry, which the wall doesn't help with either of those. Plus, the wall can be easily breached: All Eight Border Wall Prototypes Fail Breach Tests Test of steel prototype for border wall showed it could be sawed through

Things unravelling more quickly now. Read the thread, it's amazing:

Good advice. I wasn't much of a veggie eater until I met my wife and she roasted them in the oven. Also, the stores have started carrying more variety, better quality, and more local (shorter times harvest to table), which can all make a big difference. For example, carrots, brussel sprouts, and garlic from the grocery store are mediocre to poor, but the same things from the local farms are amazing. Good luck!

If you are/were a Trump supporter, are you starting to have doubts or changed your mind about him?

Of course: https://www.comm.pitt.edu/argument-claims-reasons-evidence

From no collusion to collusion isn't a crime to others committed collusion to... it's totes ok for the President to commit crimes?

My pet peeve is when people don't use supporting evidence for the discussion points in a thread.

Wrong thread

And if we fear Islam, then we're losing the war on ideas.

Probably because it doesn't help with mass shootings, which is one of the main media drivers for gun control coverage.

Amazing that her historic incompetence is still not enough for change. Getting likely that the UK gets booted from the EU and that will finally be the end of May and the conservative government.

Remember that it's not effective unless it convinces someone who might have voted for Bernie, so throwing meat to their base might help Fox News ratings but won't matter for the election. The Hillary attacks partly worked because she's so evasive and isn't transparent at all. She also did monumentally stupid stuff like hosting her own email server and then having a changing story about it and giving speeches to Wall Street and refusing to release the transcript of those speeches. As for Bernie, it remains to be seen if the socialism attack will work or not - I think it's a worn out attack with minimal impact on voting.

You could be right, but I think Bill Clinton was a good politician (not a good person and I disagree with his policies but good at getting votes) and Hillary not so much. A big part of her problem is that she's just not likable in the way Obama and Bill Clinton are/were. She may have even been good at governing, so maybe I really mean she isn't a good campaigner.

I think the standard political talking point of appealing to swing voters implies a centrist or moderate stance that may not actually match how the swing voters are made up. Hillary discovered her center/moderate stance didn't appeal but that could also be because she's just not a good politician. Also, getting out the vote (typically the base of your party) has always been a winning strategy for Democrats, so the best candidate is going to be one that energizes the voters IMO, and we've seen Bernie is good at that. The GOP is going to smear any candidate, so that's a terrible reason for picking or not picking a nominee. One advantage Bernie has is that he's leaned into the "socialist" label instead of running from it like Dems have done in the past, so it's not nearly as effective. The GOP called Obama a socialist and will do the same to any Dem candidate, which is losing it's effectiveness because they're basically the-boy-who-cried-wolf at this point. I think what you'll see instead is the Dem establishment smear Bernie as a sexist, but it's really hard for the GOP to use that as an attack.

I saw a presentation on xenophobia and the places that are the most anti-immigrant tend to not have many immigrants.

From your keyboard to all conservatives' ears.

You could be right, but Bernie is the most popular politician in America right now for a reason. And the establishment media attacks against him won't be as effective this time IMO since he's not a newcomer.

@Enhance @Moiraine

I still think Bernie will win if he runs. He's got the name recognition now.

He's got to be hopped up on something, doesn't he?

So a Canadian hospital is actually the best in the world, but we keep hearing how single-payer will make America's medical system worse. Hmmm...