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Not trying to hijack the thread here but, My question would be this then, how many games do you see them winning normally? And I am guessing that you believe that the SEC is just clearly that much tougher than any other conference. I only ask because you said you see them winning that many once every 5-6 years. Mizzou has won that many or more every year for the last 6 seasons and 8 was recently the low mark only on the 3 seasons where they started a new QB who was a true Soph. They have increased the talent they have taken every year and the depth has improved leaps since the start of that run. Also I am assuming that you believe that if NE was in the SEC they also would be a 5-6-7 win team and once every 5-6 years reach 8-10 wins?

I was working drive through in HS and our drive through had a section by the window that was covered. It was an extension of the building with a roof and brick pillers holding up the structure. It was the cause of two incendents while I worked there. #1 someone got pissed or something while waiting in late night drive through. They were the next car to the window, but the jolted out of line quickly towards the open parking lot. They hit one of the brick pillars on the drivers side front of their car. It smashed in the car and broke the pillar. Dude was wasted. He bailed out and hid in the toyata car lot next door. The police easily found him after they showed up. #2 because of the earlier accendent the owners decided to upgrade the cover with new signage , a new roof and basically just make it like new. Well before the work could be finished we had a big storm. While I was working the window a just of wind took a fairly big piece of sheet metal that was part of some of the new signage and ripped it off the building. It went flipping of the building towards the cars in drive through. It just happend to hit about 1/3 of the way up the hood of a 500 series BMW and scratched the holy hell out of this guys hood. He was obviously pissed and I was the first person that got to feel his wrath. Nothing too crazy other than that. But the drive through is the only single place in the world that I have seen more boobies than any where besides maybe a strip club. Whether it was on a dare, someone who was adventurous, loose fitting clothes whatever. I still saw um. Oh.......how i miss those days

2nd.. i think it involved a lighter, a brown bag, and a lot of poop I'll tell the story at the next boozer. You'll have to be there in person to hear it.

who knew that knapp was such a rebel and all around general bad@**?!?!?

My Mom is a Boomer. If I messed up, she would beat my ass. I do agree though. It all starts with the parents. Well obviously its not everyone. My boomer dad installed a fear of god in me. I wasnt afraid of jail or the police, i was afraid of my dads reaction if I had to deal with either of those two. My parents had rules and we were to obey them. If you lived within those rules you had a lot of freedom. I am raising my boys the same way.

not to start a debate or totally derail this thread, but we have no one to blame but ourselves. It started with my parents’ generation (baby boomers). The hippie, relaxed, lazy & non structured parenting that lives by the motto "i want to be my kids friend". For whatever reason all those parents were so put off by some discipline and structure that they decided it was okay to let their kids run amok. Now all those kids (gen x, my generation) have grown to be self entitled turds who don’t believe in winning or losing, or fair and unfair. They want everything equal, give everyone a trophy. You failed the test...oh lets let you retake it, or we curve the grading scale. Johnny got cut from the BB team...lets sue the school. Bunch of freaking pansies. My kids know structure, my kids know punishment. My kids WILL know failure. And hopefully because of all that they will know success. and teachercd, if either of my boys did something like that, first I would spank them. They would lose privileges and most importantly they would personally apologize to that poor women for their behavior.

Methmobile. Not a big fan of the wheels or the goofy MIZZOU stuff, but I compliment you on a pretty sweet ride if it is, indeed, yours. Am I the only one who finds humor and irony in you referencing drugs to me, when you go by the name "The Dude". Methmobile. well yeah, but at the time it was in question that it may be MY mobile.

I was sorry to see him drop Mizzou. First guy that I am aware of that the SEC hurt us. He should be a good one. Some guys on a mizzou board that are in the know seem to think its down to you guys and KSU with OSU having an outside chance. good luck

Could be, but if they continue to win 8-10 games a year, then it should only get better and our normally top 30 classes will be top 15. And about Hannon, I know that Hannon is friends with MR, but he has alot of friends at Mizzou. Including good friends who are commited in this same class. Not too mention that he is great friends with Jamone Boyd (3 star DE) and the two have mentioned they are strongly considering playing together. Boyd to my knowledge doesnt hold a NE offer, but does from Arky, KSU and Mizzou. Not to mention both of his parents, not to mention that he is interested in Journalism (and its freaking Mizzou), not to mention its the home state, not to mention a number of other "clues" or things in our favor.... Basically what I am saying is people will see what they will as too why their team will have an advantage. I can give more reasons for him to pick MU over ne than you can for him to pick ne. But that really doesnt mean squat. Does he want to get away? does MU having 4 OL commits already scare him? does he just like it better? If there is one thing one learns in following recruiting is that what you think makes sense, or should happen rarely does. At this point I think all we know, is he has a top 4 and he is visiting those schools.

Methmobile. Not a big fan of the wheels or the goofy MIZZOU stuff, but I compliment you on a pretty sweet ride if it is, indeed, yours. Am I the only one who finds humor and irony in you referencing drugs to me, when you go by the name "The Dude". It is not my car, I am pretty sure it belonged to William Moore though. I drive a DODGE STRATU.....no, wait...Avenger.

visited arky last week, KSU Friday, Nebraska on the 16th and the Mizzou again next weekend. He has been to MU and NE most often. You guys say this is the 3rd time for NE, including practices I think this will be the 5th or 6th time on Mu's campus. Seems to be coming down to mu and ne

I can be seen 'ridin dirty' in Omaha They see me rollin....They hating

that’s kind of a surprise. That is usually a position Self and the jayhawks save for a top recruits dad... Good for Doc, always liked him. And he is able to land a job with his buddy.

rumored to be a big ARKY lean. Also, has not received a Mizzou offer yet. Although its thought that he could get one soon based off his camp performance yesterday

some of those bigeast and acc teams you play are basically mac/1-aa teams : Joking aside, I agree that there is no exact science to S.O.S. & Conf. RPI. Nobody has a perfect way, but if we are real about looking at the items in detail and not just sticking to an idea (not saying this about you) people can see the difference, IMHO. For example, the pac12 plays 9 conf games. The SEC currently plays 8. Put look at the games. Each have some tough ones, but when you put it on paper and look at it, which would you rather play? Oregon - Zona (4-8), @Wazzou (4-8), Wash (7-6), @AZ ST (6-7), CU (3-10), @USC (10-2), @Cal (7-6), Stanford (11-2), @OR ST (3-9) USC - @Stanford (11-2), Cal (7-6), @Utah (8-5), @Washington (7-6), CU (3-10), @Zona (4-8), Oregon (12-2), AZST (6-7), @UCLA (6-8) OR plays 5 teams that were below .500. (62.5% of their conference games are to team with losing records & 60% of thier conf road games are to teams with losing records) USC plays 4 below . 500. (44.4% overall and 40% of their road games) Basically USC and Oregon have 1 tough game. Maybe 2 if Stanford is able to go again or someone unknown jumps up. The rest of their 7-8 conf. games are against avg or below average teams. Teams that scare nobody who is any good playing home or away. Alabama - @Arky (11-2), OleMiss (2-10), @Mizzou (8-5), @Tenn (5-7), Miss St (7-6), @LSU (13-1), ATM (7-6), Auburn (8-5 LSU - @Auburn (8-5), @FL (7-6), SC (11-2), @ATM (7-6), ALA (12-1), MIss St (7-6), OleMiss (2-10) & @Arky (11-2) Ala plays 2 teams that were below .500. (25% of their conference games are to team with losing records & 25% of thier conf road games are to teams with losing records) LSU plays 1 below . 500. (12.5% overall and 0% of their road games) LSU & Ala both play eachother, like Oregon and USC. They both play another high level team in Arky, who unlike Stanford, returns nearly their entire team. But here is where things differ, you in your own words have said so; - NOTRE DAME JOE 6/4/12 I think that most people would see that middle group of teams in the SEC and feel they are better teams, tougher places to play on the road & have a better chance of beating good teams than the group of pac12 teams. Its not a huge difference, but the best way to look at it I think is to take any one of those middle SEC teams and give them the USC or Oregon schedule. How do you think they would do. win 6 of 9? maybe a game better or worse? Now take a middle pac12 team and give them the Bama or LSU schedule, how many do they win? 2 or 3 of the 8? maybe one better or worse? To be frank, I think that Mizzou or Auburn or Florida would stand a much better chance against the pac12 then Wash., UCLA, or Cal would against the SEC. And that is a pretty big difference when you start looking at the number of teams that finish .500 or below in the SEC and how they would finish .500 or above in pac12. Then look at all those .500 or below and put them in the SEC, their record would be even worse than they are in the pac12. Thats where in my opinion the pac12 can shove it. The big12 WOULD have a leg to stand on with that complaint. They play 9 conf games and have higher level teams in depth than the pac12. But the funny thing with that is, they dont cry and complain about things like that like some other conferences. I find it funny that when looking at the 9 games in the big12 against the 9 in the pac12 its really not that close, but yet the easier of the two says the SEC has an unfair advantage while the more difficult of the two agree with the SEC on their stance and has no complaints.

Aub (8-5) Mizzou (8-5) Miss St. (7-6) FL (7-6) aTm (7-6) Vandy (6-7) UK (5-7) Tenn (5-7) Man, that's just brutal. Are you implying that playing a conference game is not as tough as playing puff noncons?? I guess I dont get what your saying here... also curious as to why you left off some. LSU (13-1) Bama (12-1) Arky (11-2) SC (11-2) Georgia (10-4) Aub (8-5) Mizzou (8-5) Miss St. (7-6) FL (7-6) aTm (7-6) Vandy (6-7) UK (5-7) Tenn (5-7)

Whats your point Joe. They play the same number of conference games and the same number of OOC games as basically every conference. They play the same number of BCS teams OOC as basically every other team. There is no "extra highschool team" and that game doesnt replace any conference games. They just dont play all the OCC games in the first weeks. When they play them has nothing to do with who has better records. What your trying to say doesnt even make sense. Your basically saying that 1 big10 team that plays 8 conf games, 1 other bcs team and 3 puffs doesnt have as good of a record as an SEC team that plays 8 conf games, 1 other bcs team and 3 puffs because that SEC team plays a puff on NOV 17 and not Sept 17 like the big10 team. Timing of wins and the effect it can have on voters, okay that is something i will listen too. But then you have to acknowledge that everyone else has an advangtage upfront because they pad their records with patsies in the first weeks while the SEC has premier conference games. And Joe I know your not in a conference. And ND is the exception to the rule when it comes to building a schedule, but then again thats their own choice.

his final 4 are LSU, Mizzou, Wisc & Oregon. I dont know of the order or if there is one. Has been said he would like to pick in the next few weeks.

Hey now!! that is not ban hammer worthy. Besides knapp knows im just playing.

You may not like it, but it's inevitable. Like's got nothing to do with it at this point. Yeah, its kinda like knappy getting older and grey'er. He may not like it, but its gonna happen regardless and their is nothing outside of 'just for men' that he can do about it.

why in Gods name would he want to go to the way it was before?! The system we have now is broken. The playoff is not perfect but its better than the BCS. And frankly the BCS is tons better than before. Why whould he want it like the old days when the top teams dont even play and we have multiple champions??!!