ZRod

Let's just say hypothetically they purposefully didn't invite Tesla because of Elon. Who cares? He's extremely toxic right now and just a s#!tty person in general. We're talking about a political party that distances itself from people like John Edwards, Anthony Weiner, Al Franken, the Cuomo's, Senator Mendez, etc. and we're supposed to be mad that they snubbed a man child who calls people pedos and reposts white supremacy stuff?

Or maaaaybe the announcement wasn't only about EVs but tailpipe emissions, so it includes EVs, hybrids, and ICE vehicles. Which means it affects the big 3 more than anyone.

Did you ever stop to think what the context of that photo might be, or did you just embrace the rage bait?

I was thinking Sean Callahan's brother, but he does look like he could work in sanitation.

Our NATO allies were in country with us up until the end. I don't think the American public would tolerate leaving troops in Afghanistan (but I think they'd be shocked to know we still have troops in Iraq). That would basically be a continuation of the status quo for the last 10 years. I think the reality is that the Trump administration royal f#&%ed up the negotiations. The Biden administration made the right call to continue the withdrawal, but the planning and execution (outside of the military operations) was very poor. Biden probably should have restarted negotiations with the Afghan government and the taliban... But short of restarting the war I don't think there was anyway to keep Kabul from falling, and at that point there was no way to prevent the tragic events of the Afghanistan people at the walls of the airport. The 13 final soldiers that were killed is tragic, but they (and their families) are being used as political pawns now. The reality is they could have been killed regardless of what actions were taken and when, because it was an ISIS attack, not the taliban.

Didn't watch any of it but hasn't Milley and the brass's stance always been that the US should have left a small contingent pf troop there permanently?

Nobody ever mentions the most idiotic parts of the Trump negotiations: the US agreed not to bomb the taliban if they were more than 500m away from an ANA position. That's less than 1/3 of a mile, you can still engage with small arms fire, motors, artillery, or almost anything at that range. That meant that our airstrikes supporting the ANA almost disappeared overnight and they effectively could no longer be offensive.

Gee... it's almost like we tried to say this when it happened, but certain people wanted to spin it as the US willing leaving it's own equipment behind as a gift to the taliban. Maybe if Trump wants to bring up the ANA's equipment we should talk about how he left their government out of negotiations with the taliban and released some 5,000 prisoners back to the taliban.

Eat s#!t Trev

Who tips at 5 Guys??? It's always been expensive, but it's also better food than McDonald's. We've got one right next to our place, but we only eat there every 2 years Last time it was over $30 for 2 burgers and a fry. You bet your sweet a$$ we took peanuts home with us!

Most of those snow birds bring themselves and their flags back to lake St Claire for the summer.

Cheaper than 5 guys

I know, I know. Everybody sucks.

It's the New York Post... Salt grains...

Bernie has some great ideas. This isn't one of them. This is how you continue to have blue and white collar jobs outsourced.

That's why I said Trev can be an a$$h@!e too. There's no way he comes out of this looking fresh. What he did is pretty unforgivable to a fan base that's been s#!t on for decades, and the only beacon in the limelight has been volleyball (thank god for John Cook and those women). His tweets the past 24hrs have also been extremely cringe. It's one thing for us 9 to 5 people to leave a job because our bosses suck, but he was getting paid almost $2M/yr to guide this program and deal with the bulls#!t. $2M in Lincoln Nebraska goes a loooong way. To lie to a fandoms face and tell them the things he did the past few years and then fly out the door to an old rival just when things are looking up is trash. Even more so when he never spoke out about the issues publicly. The dude would have had the entire state's ear. As an alumni and supposed lover of the program he had a responsibility to speak out, and he didn't.

I think most of us here fully understand this. The political reasons Trev left are a symptom of the overall problem beholden to a specific group. Also, the state government and University can be FUBAR, and Trev can still be an ahole for leaving. None of it is mutually exclusive.

Did you just make a coherent, logical, and we'll thought out argument in P&R? Are you feeling ok?

Tim, you've got some stuff on your chin...

Duh! Everybody is an a$$h@!e over there and all the normal people are suffering because of it.

This is one of the dumbest wastes of time and effort ever.

It's not about the politics per se, which is a symptom of a greater problem, it's about the incompetence of the people in leadership (which is a common trend). You don't drive away 3 different people, in 3 different positions of leadership, from vastly different backgrounds, who are all well respected because you have quality leadership above them... Like you said, who did they all report to?

Compensated is the wrong word. How about supported?

He's not a turn coat, but it's extremely disappointing that he chose to leave instead of fight for what he supposedly loved. Then again it sounds like he asked to be compensated for his trouble and was shut down.