Scratchtown Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 I was reading a previous thread about Missouri's schedule and how easy it is. There was a post in there about there not being any SOS formula in the BCS, and honestly I think that is a complete joke. DON’T PUNISH GREAT TEAMS FOR LOSING A CLOSE GAME LATE IN THE SEASON!!!!!! honestly the preseason polls are what is messing up the BCS, they shouldn't have any polls till the week before conference starts. Now do you think that their should be some sort of a SOS formula in College Football? I honestly say yes...and here's how it should be based on. First of all you need to come up with a point system (just like High School ball here in Nebraska). Teams in college generally play 13 games, possibly 14 (the way to make this work, conference championship games should be thrown out. Every team plays equal amount of games for the regular season, which is 12) In high school here in Nebraska its 9 (for class A and B) 8 for (C1, C2, D1, D2) In high school here in nebraska it works like this, they take the final record of everyone and apply a point total to those records. For example Beating any team that is 7-1 or 6-2 at the end of the year gives you 50 "power points" Beating a team that is 5-3, 4-4, or 3-5 gives you 45 "power points" Any thing less than described above is only worth 40. If you've lost to a team that ends up 8-0, 7-1, or 6-2 the team that lost gets 38 "power points" If lost to a 5-3, 4-4, or 3-5 team, you get 33 "power Points" anything less than 3-5, you get 28. Now applying this simple formula to College Football....what I described earlier, Teams general play 12 games in the regular season, some play 11, but lets just talk about the teams that play 12, just to keep it easy. So lets do this.... Wins vs teams with these records translates to this many points.... 11-1 = 60 points 10-2 = 60 points 9-3 = 60 points 8-4 = 55 points 7-5 = 55 points 6-6 = 55 points 5-7 = 50 points 4-8 = 50 points 3-9 = 50 points 2-10 = 45 points 1-11 = 45 points 0-12 = 45 points Losses vs teams with these records equals this many points 12-0 = 43 points 11-1 = 43 points 10-2 = 43 points 9-3 = 38 points 8-4 = 38 points 7-5 = 38 points 6-6 = 33 points 5-7 = 33 points 4-8 = 33 points 3-9 = 28 points 2-10 = 28 points 1-11 = 28 points --------------------------------------------------------- Are you with me so far? After the regular season is completed you would then take the total points each team earned and divide it by 12, take that average and apply it accordingly. Now for kicks and giggles lets just take the LSU and NU schedules for example last year, just to give you an idea of what it would look like. LSU’s Schedule looked like this (teams finished regular season record) W - Miss State 7-5 = 55 points W - Virginia Tech 10-2 = 60 points W - Middle Tenn 5-7 = 50 points W - South Carolina 6-6 = 55 points W – Tulane 4-8 = 50 points W – Florida 9-3 = 60 points L – Kentucky 7-5 = 38 points W – Auburn 8-4 = 55 points W – Alabama 6-6 = 55 points W - Louisiana Tech 5-7 = 50 points W - Ole Miss 3-9 = 50 points L – Arkansas 8-4 = 38 points Total Points accumulated = 616 Point Average = 51.333 Nebraska’s Schedule W – Nevada 6-6 = 55 points W – Wake Forest 8-4 = 55 points L – USC 10-2 = 43 points W – Ball State 7-5 = 55 points W – Iowa State 3-9 = 50 points L – Missouri 11-1 = 43 points L – Okie State 6-6 = 33 points L – Texas A&M 7-5 = 38 points L – Texas 9-3 = 38 points L – Kansas 11-1 = 43 points W- Kansas St 5-7 = 50 points L – Colorado 6-6 = 33 points Total Points Accumulated = 536 Point Average = 44.667 After you list greatest average to lowest average that will give you eachs strength of schedule...implement it into the BCS formula! THOUGHTS? Quote Link to comment
EbylHusker Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 Well, SOS is still taken into account (in some fashion) by each of the 6 computer components used, unless something has changed from last season to this coming one. Also, human voting makes up 2/3 of the BCS, so it's not like having a stand alone SOS component would save you from suffering a rankings hit after a loss. You lose and you drop in the rankings. Quote Link to comment
walksalone Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 after reading that, I thought I had to much free time on my hands... Quote Link to comment
Scratchtown Posted August 28, 2008 Author Share Posted August 28, 2008 it actually only took about 10 minutes...I know the nebraska high school format inside and out...so it was a quick process....thought it was interesting.... didn't know 10 mins was too much time to have to ones self Quote Link to comment
dustinl15 Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 Got a question with this format. How does it work out for Conferences that have a Conference Championship game, having that extra game against a good opponent would boost there average points. You would either have to have all conferences play in a conference championship game or not allow it to count towards the average. Quote Link to comment
Scratchtown Posted August 28, 2008 Author Share Posted August 28, 2008 up toward the top part of my post, i did say that the CCG's should be thrown out in order for it to be even... Quote Link to comment
huskerjack23 Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 playoffs...done. Quote Link to comment
Igetbored216 Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 up toward the top part of my post, i did say that the CCG's should be thrown out in order for it to be even... I like the conference championship games. Instead of getting rid of them, EVERY conference should have a championship game. Quote Link to comment
huKSer Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 up toward the top part of my post, i did say that the CCG's should be thrown out in order for it to be even... NO! Count them and that will fix PAC 10, Big Can't Count and Notre Dumb Quote Link to comment
Cy the Cyclone Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 I was reading a previous thread about Missouri's schedule and how easy it is. There was a post in there about there not being any SOS formula in the BCS, and honestly I think that is a complete joke. DON’T PUNISH GREAT TEAMS FOR LOSING A CLOSE GAME LATE IN THE SEASON!!!!!! honestly the preseason polls are what is messing up the BCS, they shouldn't have any polls till the week before conference starts. Now do you think that their should be some sort of a SOS formula in College Football? I honestly say yes...and here's how it should be based on. First of all you need to come up with a point system (just like High School ball here in Nebraska). Teams in college generally play 13 games, possibly 14 (the way to make this work, conference championship games should be thrown out. Every team plays equal amount of games for the regular season, which is 12) In high school here in Nebraska its 9 (for class A and B) 8 for (C1, C2, D1, D2) In high school here in nebraska it works like this, they take the final record of everyone and apply a point total to those records. For example Beating any team that is 7-1 or 6-2 at the end of the year gives you 50 "power points" Beating a team that is 5-3, 4-4, or 3-5 gives you 45 "power points" Any thing less than described above is only worth 40. If you've lost to a team that ends up 8-0, 7-1, or 6-2 the team that lost gets 38 "power points" If lost to a 5-3, 4-4, or 3-5 team, you get 33 "power Points" anything less than 3-5, you get 28. Now applying this simple formula to College Football....what I described earlier, Teams general play 12 games in the regular season, some play 11, but lets just talk about the teams that play 12, just to keep it easy. So lets do this.... Wins vs teams with these records translates to this many points.... 11-1 = 60 points 10-2 = 60 points 9-3 = 60 points 8-4 = 55 points 7-5 = 55 points 6-6 = 55 points 5-7 = 50 points 4-8 = 50 points 3-9 = 50 points 2-10 = 45 points 1-11 = 45 points 0-12 = 45 points Losses vs teams with these records equals this many points 12-0 = 43 points 11-1 = 43 points 10-2 = 43 points 9-3 = 38 points 8-4 = 38 points 7-5 = 38 points 6-6 = 33 points 5-7 = 33 points 4-8 = 33 points 3-9 = 28 points 2-10 = 28 points 1-11 = 28 points --------------------------------------------------------- Are you with me so far? After the regular season is completed you would then take the total points each team earned and divide it by 12, take that average and apply it accordingly. Now for kicks and giggles lets just take the LSU and NU schedules for example last year, just to give you an idea of what it would look like. LSU’s Schedule looked like this (teams finished regular season record) W - Miss State 7-5 = 55 points W - Virginia Tech 10-2 = 60 points W - Middle Tenn 5-7 = 50 points W - South Carolina 6-6 = 55 points W – Tulane 4-8 = 50 points W – Florida 9-3 = 60 points L – Kentucky 7-5 = 38 points W – Auburn 8-4 = 55 points W – Alabama 6-6 = 55 points W - Louisiana Tech 5-7 = 50 points W - Ole Miss 3-9 = 50 points L – Arkansas 8-4 = 38 points Total Points accumulated = 616 Point Average = 51.333 Nebraska’s Schedule W – Nevada 6-6 = 55 points W – Wake Forest 8-4 = 55 points L – USC 10-2 = 43 points W – Ball State 7-5 = 55 points W – Iowa State 3-9 = 50 points L – Missouri 11-1 = 43 points L – Okie State 6-6 = 33 points L – Texas A&M 7-5 = 38 points L – Texas 9-3 = 38 points L – Kansas 11-1 = 43 points W- Kansas St 5-7 = 50 points L – Colorado 6-6 = 33 points Total Points Accumulated = 536 Point Average = 44.667 After you list greatest average to lowest average that will give you eachs strength of schedule...implement it into the BCS formula! THOUGHTS? 10 bonus points should be awarded to teams featuring cheerleaders with huge breasts.... Quote Link to comment
Ohio Pete Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 10 bonus points should be awarded to teams featuring cheerleaders with huge breasts.... Now that's something we can all get behind. Quote Link to comment
Reebsker Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 10 bonus points should be awarded to teams featuring cheerleaders with huge breasts.... Now that's something we can all get behind. I think I'd rather be in front, but to each his/her own. Quote Link to comment
huKSer Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 10 bonus points should be awarded to teams featuring cheerleaders with huge breasts.... Now that's something we can all get behind. I think I'd rather be in front, but to each his/her own. Walking backwards Quote Link to comment
walksalone Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 10 bonus points should be awarded to teams featuring cheerleaders with huge breasts.... Now that's something we can all get behind. I think I'd rather be in front, but to each his/her own. Walking backwards In front, behind... Does it really matter??? Quote Link to comment
huzkerbob Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 There is a SOS component, but no longer for quality of win. And this system could almost combine the two. And it really couldn't get anymore ridiculous than the formula the BCS is using, right? Quote Link to comment
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