Callahans Recruits

[holvy83]

Ran across some rankings for this years potential top 100 draft picks-http://collegefootball.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=851322

 

No Husker made the list, which basically tells me that ol' Callahan and the boys really did a number on progressing the talent with some of these kids. With all of the highly touted recruiting classes that we had during the Callahan Era it would have been nice to see that some of the guys that came in with him would leave with the NFL in their sights.

 

I am sure the current staff will get them on the right track, and instead of automatically promising them the NFL, make them earn it for NU first.

[Hunter94]

well, even if these kids had talent, they have only been "coached" for 3 games......hard to tell, but i tend to agree, the "talent" we recruited was over hyped, to a large degree........

[HuskerTrucker]

Yeah, I agree...they have just not had any coaching at all in the past 3 years.

[DJR313]

Well, from Callahan's first recruiting classes, Brandon Jackson, Carl Nicks, and Zack Bowman are already playing in the NFL. After this year, look for Murtha, Lucky, Potter, Slauson and possibly Murillo to be in the NFL. Not exactly talent devoid, but maybe not as rich as the media had pumped it up to be and recruiting afficianados thought.

[skersfan]

I think some of you miss the whole recruiting thing. We got a lot of top kids, but a lot of them left. His classes were highly ranked, but not because of high star levels, it was the number of 3 stars that he signed.

 

He over filled the classes, taking 31 one year. Yes our point average was high but the star value no where near the top programs. IE USC 8 5 star Nebraska 17 three star. WE end up close, but the talent level gets farther apart.

[huzkerbob]

well, even if these kids had talent, they have only been "coached" for 3 games......hard to tell, but i tend to agree, the "talent" we recruited was over hyped, to a large degree........

 

90% of the kids recruited are over hyped! In the long run it's not about stars it's about playing with heart and desire. If star ratings where that accurate then USC would never allow a touchdown EVER. And we know that's not true, and that USC is beatable, and are every year.

 

It's the coaching that keeps them on top, recruiting just helps you stay there. Callahan was great at coaching up his offense. But completly ignored the D to his peril. No amount of stars could have saved that sinking ship!

[huKSer]

Well, from Callahan's first recruiting classes, Brandon Jackson, Carl Nicks, and Zack Bowman are already playing in the NFL. After this year, look for Murtha, Lucky, Potter, Slauson and possibly Murillo to be in the NFL. Not exactly talent devoid, but maybe not as rich as the media had pumped it up to be and recruiting afficianados thought.

 

Enough talent depth for 8 man football. Hhhmmmmm .. . . National champion 8 man college team, by default

 

 

Look at Colorado's two frosh running backs, did the 5* guy or the 5' guy get 166 yds thursday?

[Pedro Guerrero]

Well, from Callahan's first recruiting classes, Brandon Jackson, Carl Nicks, and Zack Bowman are already playing in the NFL. After this year, look for Murtha, Lucky, Potter, Slauson and possibly Murillo to be in the NFL. Not exactly talent devoid, but maybe not as rich as the media had pumped it up to be and recruiting afficianados thought.

 

Enough talent depth for 8 man football. Hhhmmmmm .. . . National champion 8 man college team, by default

 

 

Look at Colorado's two frosh running backs, did the 5* guy or the 5' guy get 166 yds thursday?

 

I didn't understand a thing you just said there.

 

One game makes Stewart better then Scott? Devine had a pretty good game for WV how many stars did he have?

 

I think he was saying that even if some don't want to admit it some of Billy C's kids have and will make it in the NFL, however the media overhyped the recruiting classes as a whole thus making people believe that there was more talent brought in then what actually was. I may be wrong but that is what I got out of his post.

 

 

 

I found this interesting USC starting lineup

 

POS ## OFFENSE

SE 1 Turner, Patrick

LT 71 Brown, Charles

LG 53 Byers, Jeff

C 61 O'Dowd, K.

RG 74 Heberer, Zack

RT 68 Lewis, Butch

SE 18 Williams, D.

TE 86 McCoy, Anthony

QB 6 Sanchez, Mark

FB 31 Havili, Stanley

TB 2 Gable, C.J.

 

POS ## DEFENSE

DE 84 Moore, Kyle

NT 99 Spicer, Averell

DT 75 Moala, Fili

DE 93 Griffen, E.

SLB 10 Cushing, Brian

MLB 58 Maualuga, Rey

WLB 43 Maiava, Kaluka :star:star:star

CB 7 Harris, Cary :star:star:star:star

FS 2 Mays, Taylor :star:star:star:star:star

SS 4 Ellison, Kevin :star:star:star

CB 24 Wright, S. :star:star:star:star

 

Avg Ranking 4.22 :star

How hard would it be to coach that much talent? Talent < Coaching or is it Coaching < Talent?

[HUSKER 37]

...Avg Ranking 4.22

How hard would it be to coach that much talent? Talent < Coaching or is it Coaching < Talent?

 

Uhh..Both!?

 

What I want to know is why all those 4-5*s are going to USC and not UCLA..

(Maybe a case of the Coach>Talent? or at lea$$t to be able to attract the talent)

 

These condoms could hang with half of the NFC east and I'm afraid what they might do in a virtual game with our '95 Huskers.

 

 

No wonder L.A. doesn't miss the Lambs...er.. Rams

[melscott62]

I think some of you miss the whole recruiting thing. We got a lot of top kids, but a lot of them left. His classes were highly ranked, but not because of high star levels, it was the number of 3 stars that he signed.

 

He over filled the classes, taking 31 one year. Yes our point average was high but the star value no where near the top programs. IE USC 8 5 star Nebraska 17 three star. WE end up close, but the talent level gets farther apart.

 

 

2007 10 player 4 stars or better

 

2006 6

 

2005 13

 

is that usc type #'s?? no... we have never and will never get those types of classes

 

but compared to MU?

 

2005 1

 

2006 1

 

2007 4

 

KU?

 

 

07 1

 

06 1

 

05 2

 

you are smart enough guy to know that stars and services dont know it all. you are also smart enough to know that you cant just disregard them either. KU and MU have better players because the developed them and we didnt. if mangino would have got our recruits from from 04 to now and cally would have gotten KU's they would have beat us last year by 60+. same with MU.

[HUSKER 37]

double post sorry

But good point ntl (None the less)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

ntl...I wonder if zEbOP knows that one ...or did I just make it up?

[robsker]

well, even if these kids had talent, they have only been "coached" for 3 games......hard to tell, but i tend to agree, the "talent" we recruited was over hyped, to a large degree........

 

Hunter --- once more you succinctly hit the nail on the head --- Callahan was grossly overrated as a recruiter --- it was all hype. The talent Callahan brought in was of lower grade than what Solich recruited.

[Axl_sued_me]

The previous coaching staff were great recruiters but they just couldn't develop talent on the college level.

[DJR313]

Well, from Callahan's first recruiting classes, Brandon Jackson, Carl Nicks, and Zack Bowman are already playing in the NFL. After this year, look for Murtha, Lucky, Potter, Slauson and possibly Murillo to be in the NFL. Not exactly talent devoid, but maybe not as rich as the media had pumped it up to be and recruiting afficianados thought.

 

Enough talent depth for 8 man football. Hhhmmmmm .. . . National champion 8 man college team, by default

 

 

Look at Colorado's two frosh running backs, did the 5* guy or the 5' guy get 166 yds thursday?

 

I think he was saying that even if some don't want to admit it some of Billy C's kids have and will make it in the NFL, however the media overhyped the recruiting classes as a whole thus making people believe that there was more talent brought in then what actually was. I may be wrong but that is what I got out of his post.

 

 

 

That was exactly what I was saying.

[melscott62]

well, even if these kids had talent, they have only been "coached" for 3 games......hard to tell, but i tend to agree, the "talent" we recruited was over hyped, to a large degree........

 

Hunter --- once more you succinctly hit the nail on the head --- Callahan was grossly overrated as a recruiter --- it was all hype. The talent Callahan brought in was of lower grade than what Solich recruited.

 

 

so if the rankings are all hype answer this question for me.....why are KU and MU all of the sudden going after higher star players? have mangino and pinkle bought into the "hype" too??