BigRedfxtoy Posted October 19, 2008 Share Posted October 19, 2008 The blackshirts were never intended to raise anyones confidence. It was a reward for effort, stong play and consistent perfection. (or as close as you can get) Stopping ISU shouldn't be that hard. I really hope they are awarded this year sometime but, maybe not yet. Or maybe to the best two or three performers first. Part of the problem here is, everyone keeps saying "when will they be given out. I hope they never are. Quote Link to comment
SkerMin8r Posted October 19, 2008 Share Posted October 19, 2008 I don't think so...not yet... I'm thinking Bo will hand them out at the end of the season based on performance. Quote Link to comment
huzkerbob Posted October 19, 2008 Share Posted October 19, 2008 IF and when we make it to a bowl game. Otherwise the D just needs to focus on their play, not the color of their practice jerseys! Quote Link to comment
huKSer Posted October 19, 2008 Share Posted October 19, 2008 The blackshirts were never intended to raise anyones confidence. It was a reward for effort, stong play and consistent perfection. (or as close as you can get) Stopping ISU shouldn't be that hard. I really hope they are awarded this year sometime but, maybe not yet. Or maybe to the best two or three performers first. Part of the problem here is, everyone keeps saying "when will they be given out. I hope they never are. Originally they were given to the first team defense when 2 platoon football evolved. It has evolved to mark excellence over time. Just setting the history right. Quote Link to comment
HuskerExpat Posted October 19, 2008 Share Posted October 19, 2008 Yes, it is time to give them out. It is ridiculous that they haven't been given out. The point of not giving them out has been made, and the defense has improved. The tradition is being turned on its head... Quote Link to comment
Touchdown Tommie Posted October 19, 2008 Share Posted October 19, 2008 Not yet....They did play pretty good against TT....but it was the defense that gave up the huge play. Then against ISU I was very happy with the play, but it is ISU. Let's see what they do against OU or even Baylor for that matter. Maybe Bo will use it as a motivational thing against OU???? Quote Link to comment
Army Husker Posted October 19, 2008 Share Posted October 19, 2008 Eh, I would have to say no to giving the shirts out to motivate the D before any game the remainder of the year. If they got the shirts and then went in and had a sub-par performance, it would take away from the whole reason it was given to them. I agree with others in that if they do outstanding against OU, OK State or CU, then give it to them in the locker room after the game. Or how about giving it to the individual players who are consistantly showing progress/effort week in and out, until all have them by the end of the year? Quote Link to comment
huzkerbob Posted October 19, 2008 Share Posted October 19, 2008 If you give them at all, you better give them to the entire D. Remember this is still a team game. The last thing we need is to single out players, good or bad. Well we single them out, but the staff shouldn't! Quote Link to comment
zoogs Posted October 19, 2008 Share Posted October 19, 2008 I hoped that blackshirts would have been out by now, but whatever. I'll wait and see, I'm sure Bo knows what he's doing. IMO: Never hand out blackshirts based on performance. First of all, blackshirts aren't that easily given out. Oh, one good game, blackshirts out. A so-so game, take them away again. Great game, back out. >_> Furthermore, you're never, ever going to see a satisfactory performance. Ever. Part of the whole philosophy is "we can always get better", and satisfaction isn't part of that equation. Same is true for fans. "Well, we owned them, but it was ONLY Team X..." "Well, true, we stuck it to <highly ranked> Team Y, but they're probably just overrated and will wind up with 4 losses this year." "Well, the defense got 3 picks, but still gave up two big plays." "Well, you know, there were all these missed coverage assignments..." I mean, seriously. We're in a bit of a unique, tradition-breaking situation this year (let's face it)...the blackshirts will come out when they do, but please please please stop calling for blackshirts based solely on one game (or even cumulative) performance. Quote Link to comment
DJR313 Posted October 19, 2008 Share Posted October 19, 2008 If they can dominate Baylor, then I say bring em out as a possible rallying point going into the OU game. Quote Link to comment
lilred Posted October 19, 2008 Share Posted October 19, 2008 They have done nothing to deserve them. Blackshirt equates excellence. Not even close. That's the problem if you ask me. It's becoming a silly game. It's coming to the point where we will only give them out with a perfect season or something. With the way the coaches view it now, the team will never be given them, or "earn" them, if you prefer. Quote Link to comment
Huskerhead1976 Posted October 19, 2008 Share Posted October 19, 2008 They have done nothing to deserve them. Blackshirt equates excellence. Not even close. That's the problem if you ask me. It's becoming a silly game. It's coming to the point where we will only give them out with a perfect season or something. With the way the coaches view it now, the team will never be given them, or "earn" them, if you prefer. They dont have to have a perfect season score wise but every single game so far has had blown coverage after missed assignment after arm tackle etc etc etc. So no they dont get them until that gets fixed. Quote Link to comment
lilred Posted October 19, 2008 Share Posted October 19, 2008 They have done nothing to deserve them. Blackshirt equates excellence. Not even close. That's the problem if you ask me. It's becoming a silly game. It's coming to the point where we will only give them out with a perfect season or something. With the way the coaches view it now, the team will never be given them, or "earn" them, if you prefer. They dont have to have a perfect season score wise but every single game so far has had blown coverage after missed assignment after arm tackle etc etc etc. So no they dont get them until that gets fixed. True, the blown coverages and missed assignments have been huge, but I think that should be the only thing standing in the way. Quote Link to comment
Army Husker Posted October 19, 2008 Share Posted October 19, 2008 I hoped that blackshirts would have been out by now, but whatever. I'll wait and see, I'm sure Bo knows what he's doing. IMO: Never hand out blackshirts based on performance. First of all, blackshirts aren't that easily given out. Oh, one good game, blackshirts out. A so-so game, take them away again. Great game, back out. >_> Furthermore, you're never, ever going to see a satisfactory performance. Ever. Part of the whole philosophy is "we can always get better", and satisfaction isn't part of that equation. Same is true for fans. "Well, we owned them, but it was ONLY Team X..." "Well, true, we stuck it to <highly ranked> Team Y, but they're probably just overrated and will wind up with 4 losses this year." "Well, the defense got 3 picks, but still gave up two big plays." "Well, you know, there were all these missed coverage assignments..." I mean, seriously. We're in a bit of a unique, tradition-breaking situation this year (let's face it)...the blackshirts will come out when they do, but please please please stop calling for blackshirts based solely on one game (or even cumulative) performance. Why not give them out for performance? Sure, satisfactory performance is arguable between any 2 people, but if they aren't easily given out, then what else to hand them out for except said performance? Evidently the players removed the shirts last year cause they didn't feel they were keeping with the tradition. Performance was the key in past, and when it happens, why not reward it? I can see ur point on giving the shirt to the team instead of individuals. That said, the D as a whole needs to get on board with those who are making a name for themselves...personal fouls aside. Quote Link to comment
HSKRNOKC Posted October 19, 2008 Share Posted October 19, 2008 If they can dominate Baylor, then I say bring em out as a possible rallying point going into the OU game. That sounds like a great idea. Quote Link to comment
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