huskered17 Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 I don't care what we call it, as long as its not called "who will not be going to a bowl game this year" game. Two years of the loser stays home is enough. I like it when the winner gets a better bowl game. GBR!!! Quote Link to comment
Chef K Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 Why not schedule Iowa as a rival have a home/away game alternating every year. I never understood why NU/Iowa was never developed into a rivalry game. Because Iowa plays Iowa State and Northern Iowa (I think) every year. If NU-IU was to become a yearly game, Iowa wouldn't be able to schedule a "changing" non-con game, or they would just be able to schedule 1 (can't remember how Big 10/11 conference scheduling works). I'd love to see it happen, though. Not Northern Iowa, Iowa's chief rival outside of ISU is Minnesota. Quote Link to comment
Blackshirt316 Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 If we created a trophy for the CU "rivalry" don't we also have to create one for Kansas, Kansas State and Iowa State? I mean it's basically the same thing, the only difference is that the conference (not NU) decided to let us get a free win against the Buffs on thanksgiving instead of playing a good game against Oklahoma. Quote Link to comment
newenglandhusker Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 That said, now that NU's fallen on hard times it seems that the student body at CU gets a lot more excited for the CSU game every year, so maybe soon enough we'll have a situation where both sides are railing on and on about how this "really isn't a rivalry." Wait a second...how has Colorado been doing? I think it is obvious by the feelings of the fans that it isn't a rivalry. If it was a true rivalry then I'm sure the CU fans would be excited about the game regardless of "Nebraska" having fallen on hard times... Quote Link to comment
DJR313 Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 And as far as a "rivalry" goes, I think there has to be a continued history of close games, and an even won/loss record in the series. In the total NU-CU series (I'm not going to waste the time to research the accurate number) I believe we lead the series by at least 35 games! Oklahoma is the only team in the old Big 8 that we consistently competed with. We have such a huge advantage in wins over all the other former Big 8 teams, so any talk of a rivalry with those teams seems silly. Ehh, I don't think there's any sort of set requirements that a game has to have for a yearly contest to become a rivalry game. Obviously most heated rivalries have a few things in common (close proximity to one another, history of success for one or both programs, perceptually or literally differing social dynamics at each school, reciprocity, etc) and CU/NU fits the bill for most of these categories, but it's not like missing one or two of the common qualifiers excludes a game from being seen as a rivalry. That said, now that NU's fallen on hard times it seems that the student body at CU gets a lot more excited for the CSU game every year, so maybe soon enough we'll have a situation where both sides are railing on and on about how this "really isn't a rivalry." Regardless, the title of rivalry game doesn't really matter to me too much, I just enjoy the tradition (or if you're prefer a less romantic term, "recurrence") of the game the day after Thanksgiving. It's nice to have that big network audience, and it's a superb way to wake up from a turkey coma. As far as the whole "Oklahoma is our only real rival" argument - well, I just hope you guys really soaked in all the pageantry, tradition, and mutual respect that game brought into your lives this year... you know, for the 3 or 4 minutes of gametime when Oklahoma wasn't up by 28 points. ouch, That being said, I think the trophy should be a gold plated turkey sandwich. I second the gold plated turkey sandwich. Swish. Quote Link to comment
cornhuskers4ever Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 Colorado is excited about playing Nebraska reguardless if they're 0-11 or we're going through a losing period. I mean, the Colorado players and fans seemed to "Mark Out" (Sorry, wrestling term), over their win keeping Nebraska from going to a bowl, In 2001, Colorado pinned a 62-36 win against Nebraska, and in 2002 my Wife and I were at the Nebraska Colorado game in Lincoln and the Buffs fans were in droves yelling 62-36! Colorado vs Nebraska might not have the prestige that Oklahoma vs Nebraska had, but even if We don't consider Colorado a rival, they sure think that way about us. Quote Link to comment
Blackshirt316 Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 cornhuskers4ever, that is true. However the same is true for every other team in the North Division when it comes to Nebraska. Quote Link to comment
sCrUmptious! Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 That said, now that NU's fallen on hard times it seems that the student body at CU gets a lot more excited for the CSU game every year, so maybe soon enough we'll have a situation where both sides are railing on and on about how this "really isn't a rivalry." Wait a second...how has Colorado been doing? I think it is obvious by the feelings of the fans that it isn't a rivalry. If it was a true rivalry then I'm sure the CU fans would be excited about the game regardless of "Nebraska" having fallen on hard times... Any rivalry game is going to have a lot less passion involved when nothing of substance is on the line. I'm sure today's Michigan/Ohio State game would have been a lot more exciting for the fans involved if Michigan were ranked, or if Ohio State were playing for anything other than an outside chance to get a Rose Bowl bid. Just the same, I'm sure there'd be a lot more passion in next week's CU/NU game if either CU or NU was ranked, or if NU was playing for something more than getting themselves to a more prestigious crappy bowl, or if CU was playing for something more than just getting themselves to a crappy bowl in the first place. Admittedly CU fans generally get a lot more excited for a Nebraska game than they get for a similar game against KState or ISU, and the older fans (the fans who were students in the 80's and 90's) without question still circle Nebraska as THE big game of the year, but my point was that the students seem to get more excited for CSU than they do for the Nebraska game nowadays, so maybe the CU/NU "rivalry" will be denied on both sides once those students become the older fans. Dig? Colorado is excited about playing Nebraska reguardless if they're 0-11 or we're going through a losing period. I mean, the Colorado players and fans seemed to "Mark Out" (Sorry, wrestling term), over their win keeping Nebraska from going to a bowl, In 2001, Colorado pinned a 62-36 win against Nebraska, and in 2002 my Wife and I were at the Nebraska Colorado game in Lincoln and the Buffs fans were in droves yelling 62-36! Colorado vs Nebraska might not have the prestige that Oklahoma vs Nebraska had, but even if We don't consider Colorado a rival, they sure think that way about us. 2001 is an entirely different situation, and really has no relevance to what the game is like today. After 10 consecutive years of painfully close losses (with few exceptions, 1994 comes to mind), Nebraska comes into Boulder undefeated, heavily favored, with the eventual heisman winner on their roster, and not only does CU beat them, they absolutely destroy them and set all sorts of records along the way. Any win like that is going to have a sizable hangover effect on both fan bases... hell, CU fans such as myself still talk about that game, and we probably always will. That was probably one of the top 3 or 5 most meaningful wins in CU program history. That was 7 years ago though. Since then Nebraska has gotten dramatically worse (then better, but only in bits and pieces), but has never come anywhere close to being dominant like they used to be, while Colorado has been up and down (also never nearly as good as they were in '01) and has really yet to get its feet completely back under it following the whole "scandal" fiasco. With all of this taken into account, it's no wonder that both fan bases are a lot more apathetic about the series than they were 5+ years ago. It'll come back though, assuming at least one of the programs does. Quote Link to comment
newenglandhusker Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 Admittedly CU fans generally get a lot more excited for a Nebraska game than they get for a similar game against KState or ISU, and the older fans (the fans who were students in the 80's and 90's) without question still circle Nebraska as THE big game of the year, but my point was that the students seem to get more excited for CSU than they do for the Nebraska game nowadays, so maybe the CU/NU "rivalry" will be denied on both sides once those students become the older fans. Dig? That was my point to begin with. Quote Link to comment
BigRedPowerWagon Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 Sorry guys CU is our rivalry. I have seen more hate spewed for the CU program then the OU program. Admit it or not huskers love to hate the buffalos which in turn makes them our rivalry. Quote Link to comment
BeachBuffs Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 I think it is more fun NOT having the biffs as a rival since it makes them mad when we say we are not rivals. It really doesn't matter in the overall scheme of things anyhow. One man's rivalry is another man's regular game or vice versa. I do not even worry about such things anymore, every year since the internet started having message boards the same threads appear. For some people in Colorado this is a huge game for some people in Nebraska it isn't and for others it is. Obviously for some Huskers it is or you wouldn't see a huge surge of Husker postes on Colorado sites this week. Quote Link to comment
The Maudfather Posted November 22, 2008 Author Share Posted November 22, 2008 ^ I think every team we play sees a huge surge on their message boards by husker fans... Anyway, I think its a big game! Also, I bought my Tix off the CU website, so what are the chances I get blinded by a bunch of laser pointer wielding CU fans?! Quote Link to comment
papersun87 Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 Apparently the CU fans don't see it as a rivalry, either. http://www.allbuffs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=30600 Quote Link to comment
gotchman Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 This may make some Big Red fans upset, but I have news for you. Colorado is our rival. You know why they are our rival now? Four numbers. 62-36. There are a couple of key things a rivalry needs. 1) Hatred between the fan bases 2) Openly rooting for the opponent of whomever they are playing at all times 3) Yearly match-ups with bowl/division implications every year Guess what? Colorado fits that mold to a T. OU no longer fits that mold. Playing twice every four years killed the NU/OU rivalry. Nebraska's two rivals are now MU and CU. Like it or not, its the truth. If any of you who are going to reply to this saying CU isn't our rival, tell me this. Do you not hate CU? Do you not root for them to lose every game? Do you not want to punch their Nick Nolte look-a-like coach in the face every time you see him for his remark "The worst day as a Buffalo is still better then the best day as a Husker". That is what I thought. I look forward to kicking our rivals ass next friday. NU 49 CU 17 Quote Link to comment
HuskerCuse Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 I made a team on NCAA Football '08.. The Nebraska State University Falcons. They are here in Fremont. It's a HUGE rivalry every year. I'm currently in 2023. I should point out that NSU is not THE Nebraska State University like THE Ohio State University. Quote Link to comment
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