Pedro Guerrero Posted October 15, 2009 Author Share Posted October 15, 2009 Problem here is that you're looking at the rankings for teams when they played them and not at the end of the year. That FINAL AP poll in '95 was Jean Shorts #2, CU #5, KSUCKS #7, KU #9. You look at Jean Shorts in '06 and they beat #3 LSU, #2 Ohio State, #13 Arkansas, #23 UGA, #25 Tennessee and lost to #9 Auburn. Pretty good. Last year they beat (pre bowl game rankings) #1 OU, #4 Alabama, #17 UGA, and lost to #24 Ole Piss...doesn't really compare, especially when you consider how 'Bama got blown out by Utah. Final USA Today rankings from last year – #5 OU, #6 Bama, #10 GA, #23 FSU. Ole Miss was #15. Quote Link to comment
blackshirtsareback Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 The 95 group was one of the most well rounded teams I've ever sen in college ball Quote Link to comment
junior4949 Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 While this is all fun debating this, we'll never get an answer because unless someone is going to go to a lot of trouble getting LP out of jail and some slim fast for Tommie the 95' Huskers are never going to play the 06'-09' Gators. I just find it interesting with all this parity talk being bantered around that 2 teams have won 4 of the NC's in the past 6 seasons, and they're from the same conference. It's also interesting looking back 30 years ago at the top teams comparing them to now. In 1979, Alabama was #1 while today they are #3. USC was #2 then while now being #5. OU was #3 while #18 today. Ohio State was #4 while being #7 today. The same strong teams known back then as the haves are still the top teams some 30 years later. Quote Link to comment
huskered17 Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 How about we just run the table, meet Florida in the BCS championship game kick their arrases and put an end to the comparisons GBR!!! Quote Link to comment
REDSTEEL Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 Florida>Nebraska The option base offense wouldn't stand a chance against the defense they play now. Isn't that the reason Nebraska went to the west coast offense? Can't have it both ways Quote Link to comment
Crymsonsteel Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 Why does everyone act like the SEC now is better than anything in the past? Did nobody know how to play football back then? People try to say the undefeated miami dolphin team played crappy teams back then but were they super talented in comparison? The competition is the same. Kids may be faster and stronger now but if they were lacking physically back in the 90's it was across the board. Now the schedule of the 95....NU beat 4 top 10 teams that year! #8 KSU, #7 CU, #10 KU, #2 Florida. 94 schedule: #24 WVU, #13 UCLA, #16 KSU, #2 CU, #3 Miami 97 Schedule: #2 Washington, #17 KSU, #14 TAM, #3 Tennessee. Don't see how Florida's strength of schedule is so much better... You got that Kind of Backwards #2 Florida, #5 Colorado, #7 KSU, #9 KU. NU obliterated 4 Top 10 teams, 2 of which were Top 5 as well as posting the greatest blowout in a NC game ever. No way in hell does Florida take the mantle of the greatest dynasty in CFB history. None of their championship teams can boast being undefeated. All 3 of NU's were. Quote Link to comment
Never Skerd' Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 The gumby Pick said "You just can't directly compare teams from more than a few years apart for this reason. Nebraska 1971 was undeniably one of the greatest teams of all time, beating #2 teams back-to-back (or maybe Hawaii was sandwiched in there) plus the #3 team. But looking at the speed, size and strength of the players, if you dropped that team in against any major team now, they'd probably get crushed. Likewise, the world class speed on 1967 USC (Simpson and McCullough were on a relay team that set the 4x110 world record) would be pretty average today. So I only consider how good a team is realitive to their era when trying to judge teams from different eras." I agree with this. . Quote Link to comment
knapplc Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 Florida>Nebraska The option base offense wouldn't stand a chance against the defense they play now. Isn't that the reason Nebraska went to the west coast offense? Can't have it both ways Our offense today has nothing to do with whether 90s-era Nebraska is better than current Florida. Whatever point you're trying to make... you didn't make it. And FYI - the 1994 team and the 1997 team would play with Florida's last couple of defenses, easy. 1995 Nebraska would run roughshod over this Florida defense. Quote Link to comment
Paul in WI Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 The problem is: That 95 team was fast (and physical) by any era's measurement. Just watch the vids and tell me that Florida wouldn't get trampled. I don't think there was a game all year that the starters weren't pulled wayyy early. By the 4th quarter, those NU lineman would have made red paste of Florida's defenders just like they did to all the teams that they played. The stretcher-bearers worked overtime that year from all the opposing players that were carted off the field. I would love to see Jesus Tebow put his head down and try a tough run on that D-line. Another concussion would be the least of his worries. They would have found his head and helmet about 30 rows up. Putting that fraud in the same paragraph as Frazier makes me want to vomit. This is ludicrous--especially on a Husker forum. People are actually trying to favorably compare a team that just scored a measly 13 points in their last game to the greatest team that ever graced a football field, REGARDLESS OF ERA. Are you friggin' serious? Some people OBVIOUSLY were in diapers or under a rock and didn't watch any of their games, or they'd know what a laugher this comparison is. Quote Link to comment
knapplc Posted October 16, 2009 Share Posted October 16, 2009 Putting that fraud (TEBOW) in the same paragraph as Frazier makes me want to vomit. This is ludicrous--especially on a Husker forum. I wouldn't call him a fraud. I like Tebow. I'd trade Egg for him in a second. That's not a knock on Egg's struggles so far - Tebow is just legitimately that good. I'd never, never trade Tebow for Frazier. But I'd maybe trade him for Crouch. Quote Link to comment
Paul in WI Posted October 16, 2009 Share Posted October 16, 2009 Putting that fraud (TEBOW) in the same paragraph as Frazier makes me want to vomit. This is ludicrous--especially on a Husker forum. I wouldn't call him a fraud. I like Tebow. I'd trade Egg for him in a second. That's not a knock on Egg's struggles so far - Tebow is just legitimately that good. I'd never, never trade Tebow for Frazier. But I'd maybe trade him for Crouch. Yeah, you're right. He isn't a fraud. He's a good player. I just feel that it is "fraudulent" that he is the leading Heisman contender for his performance thus far this season, and that's the national media's fault--not his. I stand corrected. Quote Link to comment
irafreak Posted October 16, 2009 Share Posted October 16, 2009 Why does everyone act like the SEC now is better than anything in the past? Did nobody know how to play football back then? People try to say the undefeated miami dolphin team played crappy teams back then but were they super talented in comparison? The competition is the same. Kids may be faster and stronger now but if they were lacking physically back in the 90's it was across the board. Now the schedule of the 95....NU beat 4 top 10 teams that year! #8 KSU, #7 CU, #10 KU, #2 Florida. 94 schedule: #24 WVU, #13 UCLA, #16 KSU, #2 CU, #3 Miami 97 Schedule: #2 Washington, #17 KSU, #14 TAM, #3 Tennessee. Don't see how Florida's strength of schedule is so much better... You got that Kind of Backwards #2 Florida, #5 Colorado, #7 KSU, #9 KU. NU obliterated 4 Top 10 teams, 2 of which were Top 5 as well as posting the greatest blowout in a NC game ever. No way in hell does Florida take the mantle of the greatest dynasty in CFB history. None of their championship teams can boast being undefeated. All 3 of NU's were. Huh. Where'd you get those numbers? I pulled mine from the huskerpedia archives. Maybe they're wrong. Quote Link to comment
irafreak Posted October 16, 2009 Share Posted October 16, 2009 I think Tebow's a fraud...off the field that is. Quote Link to comment
UGAHusker Posted October 16, 2009 Share Posted October 16, 2009 I think Tebow's a fraud...off the field that is. Amen. Quote Link to comment
Crymsonsteel Posted October 16, 2009 Share Posted October 16, 2009 Why does everyone act like the SEC now is better than anything in the past? Did nobody know how to play football back then? People try to say the undefeated miami dolphin team played crappy teams back then but were they super talented in comparison? The competition is the same. Kids may be faster and stronger now but if they were lacking physically back in the 90's it was across the board. Now the schedule of the 95....NU beat 4 top 10 teams that year! #8 KSU, #7 CU, #10 KU, #2 Florida. 94 schedule: #24 WVU, #13 UCLA, #16 KSU, #2 CU, #3 Miami 97 Schedule: #2 Washington, #17 KSU, #14 TAM, #3 Tennessee. Don't see how Florida's strength of schedule is so much better... You got that Kind of Backwards #2 Florida, #5 Colorado, #7 KSU, #9 KU. NU obliterated 4 Top 10 teams, 2 of which were Top 5 as well as posting the greatest blowout in a NC game ever. No way in hell does Florida take the mantle of the greatest dynasty in CFB history. None of their championship teams can boast being undefeated. All 3 of NU's were. Huh. Where'd you get those numbers? I pulled mine from the huskerpedia archives. Maybe they're wrong. I still have the paper that has the final polls. Those were the final polls. Quote Link to comment
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