JTempl Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 More proof that stars really don't matter.... More 2 star All American's than 5 star.... OFFENSE QB Colt McCoy, Texas 6-2 210 Sr. *** RB Toby Gerhart, Stanford 6-1 235 Sr. *** RB Mark Ingram, Alabama 5-11 215 So. **** WR Freddie Barnes, Bowling Green 6-0 206 Sr. ** WR Golden Tate, Notre Dame 5-11 195 Jr. **** TE Dorin Dickerson, Pittsburgh 6-2 230 Sr. **** OL Zane Beadles, Utah 6-4 305 Sr. ** OL Rodney Hudson, Florida State 6-2 285 Jr. *** OL Mike Iupati, Idaho 6-6 330 Sr. ** OL Russell Okung, Oklahoma State 6-5 300 Sr. *** C Maurkice Pouncey, Florida 6-5 318 Jr. **** DEFENSE DL Terrence Cody, Alabama 6-5 365 Sr. DL Jerry Hughes, TCU 6-3 257 Sr. ** DL Gerald McCoy, Oklahoma 6-4 297 Jr. ***** DL Ndamukong Suh, Nebraska 6-4 300 Sr. **** LB Pat Angerer, Iowa 6-1 235 Sr. *** LB Greg Jones, Michigan State 6-1 228 Jr. *** LB Rolando McClain, Alabama 6-4 258 Jr. **** DB Eric Berry, Tennessee 5-11 203 Jr. ***** DB Joe Haden, Florida 5-11 190 Jr. **** DB DeAndre McDaniel, Clemson 6-1 210 Jr. **** DB Earl Thomas, Texas 5-10 197 So. **** SPECIAL TEAMS K Kai Forbath, UCLA 6-0 192 Jr. *** P Drew Butler, Georgia 6-2 203 So. ** RS C.J. Spiller, Clemson 5-11 195 Sr. ***** Quote Link to comment
teachercd Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 I am totally on board with what you are saying, but now the BC lovers will jump in with the old "well there are so few 5 star players thats why there are less on there" BCers never stop Quote Link to comment
Overland Park Husker Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 How many threads and arguments are we going to have over this? Everytime this time of year a thread like this seems to pop up. Quote Link to comment
teachercd Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 How many threads and arguments are we going to have over this? Everytime this time of year a thread like this seems to pop up. You think its bad here? Go see what its like at huskerfanclub.com or the bigredboard.com, the crazy really hits the fan there! Quote Link to comment
typ3kal Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 Worthless OP on this subject. There are 25 5 stars anually. 75 4 stars. Like 250 3 stars and so on from there. Calculate the percentage all american over a 6-7 year period per star and average them to account for variation. You"ll notice 4/5 star players are significantly more likely to make all-american status. This topic about stars has been beat to death over the years. What do stars mean? It means the player is more likely to make an impact. It is a probability not a given fact. 5 star players on average have better careers than 4 star players. 4 stars > 3 stars. Some players pan out in college, others flop. Recruiting isn't a science. Quote Link to comment
CU Sucks Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 The point is that it doesn't matter how how many stars you have when you are recruited...anyone can be successful. Proven by not only the all-Americans, but the first round of the NFL draft last year where the 2 stars again outnumbered the 5 stars... Quote Link to comment
Husker4lif3 Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 Worthless OP on this subject. There are 25 5 stars anually. 75 4 stars. Like 250 3 stars and so on from there. Calculate the percentage all american over a 6-7 year period per star and average them to account for variation. You"ll notice 4/5 star players are significantly more likely to make all-american status. This topic about stars has been beat to death over the years. What do stars mean? It means the player is more likely to make an impact. It is a probability not a given fact. 5 star players on average have better careers than 4 star players. 4 stars > 3 stars. Some players pan out in college, others flop. Recruiting isn't a science. There are probably 150-200 4 stars, but whos counting.. Gotta know the facts before you speak. Quote Link to comment
VA Husker Fan Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 OK, so randomly pick 20 ** players out of this years graduating high school seniors, and randomly pick 20 ***** players for me. In 4 years, I pay you $100 for every one of yours that makes all american or gets drafted, and you do the same for me. Is there anyone who truly believes that stars don't matter enough to take that bet? Quote Link to comment
epocSoN Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 Neither side of the argument will convince the other that they are right... we might as well be arguing about religion... Quote Link to comment
VA Husker Fan Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 Then I hope someone will take me up on the bet. I'll even let them take 25 ** players to my 20. If stars don't matter, that's a huge advantage, even the casinos don't take this big of an edge in most of their games. Quote Link to comment
Overland Park Husker Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 Then I hope someone will take me up on the bet. I'll even let them take 25 ** players to my 20. If stars don't matter, that's a huge advantage, even the casinos don't take this big of an edge in most of their games. I believe the advantage is to you, if I'm not mistaken. Quote Link to comment
epocSoN Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 Then I hope someone will take me up on the bet. I'll even let them take 25 ** players to my 20. If stars don't matter, that's a huge advantage, even the casinos don't take this big of an edge in most of their games. I don't think anybody here is opinionated on this topic enough to bet on it. Quote Link to comment
NoKoolAidForME Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 OK, so randomly pick 20 ** players out of this years graduating high school seniors, and randomly pick 20 ***** players for me. In 4 years, I pay you $100 for every one of yours that makes all american or gets drafted, and you do the same for me. Is there anyone who truly believes that stars don't matter enough to take that bet? I think this is the best way to settle this.........LOL. I will let take your bet if you pick yours at grauation and I pick mines in 4 year right before the teans are annouced. I will even pick just 5 to your 20. Quote Link to comment
epocSoN Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 Last Years NFL Draft and their Rivals Rankings... 1. Detroit: QB Matthew Stafford College: Georgia Rating: No. 2 QB … 5 stars Offers: Michigan and Texas Comment: Was ranked behind Mitch Mustain, who started at Arkansas and is now on USC’s bench, and one spot ahead of … Tim Tebow. Also in that ‘06 QB class: Jake Locker (7th), Josh Freeman (15th) and Sam Bradford (17th). 2. St. Louis: OT Jason Smith College: Baylor Rating: Not rated … 2 stars Offers: No schools listed. Comment: That doesn’t necessarily mean Smith’s only offer was from Baylor, but it might mean that — and it sure means that a bunch of elite programs missed out. 3. Kansas City: DE Tyson Jackson College: LSU Rating: No. 120 … 2 stars Offers: Oklahoma State Comment: Was an offensive lineman in high school and projected to play there in college (and rated as such). 4. Seattle: OLB Aaron Curry College: Wake Forest Rating: Not rated … 2 stars Offers: East Carolina and Mississippi State Comment: Someone on the Wake staff made a brilliant evaluation. 5. NY Jets: QB Mark Sanchez College: USC Rating: No. 1 … 5 stars Offers: Notre Dame, Ohio State and Texas Comment: Tough for a gifted QB to fly under the radar, especially a gifted QB from Southern California. 6. Cincinnati: OT Andre Smith College: Alabama Rating: No. 1 … 5 stars Offers: Florida, LSU and USC Comment: If Urban Meyer and Pete Carroll are after the same kid, chances are that he’s the real deal. 7. Oakland: WR Darrius Heyward-Bey College: Maryland Rating: No. 39 … 3 stars Offers: Virginia Tech, Pitt, Penn State and Boston College (plus others). Comment: Might turn out to be the 39th best player in this draft, too. 8. Jacksonville: OT Eugene Monroe College: Virginia Rating: No. 1 … 5 stars Offers: Florida State, Miami, Ohio State and USC Comment: Education must have really, really mattered to Monroe. 9. Green Bay: DT B.J. Raji College: Boston College Rating: Not rated … 2 stars Offers: Nobody but BC. Comment: A Jersey kid, he visited Rutgers but didn’t get an offer. 10. San Francisco: WR Michael Crabtree College: Texas Tech Rating: Not rated … 2 stars Offers: Illinois, Iowa and Kansas Comment: The Dallas native played QB in high school but was projected as a receiver in college. Didn’t have Texas on his short list. ------------ Not to fuel the fire or anything... Quote Link to comment
JTempl Posted December 14, 2009 Author Share Posted December 14, 2009 Worthless OP on this subject. There are 25 5 stars anually. 75 4 stars. Like 250 3 stars and so on from there. Calculate the percentage all american over a 6-7 year period per star and average them to account for variation. You"ll notice 4/5 star players are significantly more likely to make all-american status. This topic about stars has been beat to death over the years. What do stars mean? It means the player is more likely to make an impact. It is a probability not a given fact. 5 star players on average have better careers than 4 star players. 4 stars > 3 stars. Some players pan out in college, others flop. Recruiting isn't a science. I was just making an observation. You're right, it's not that important. Have a good one. Quote Link to comment
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