HuskerNMO Posted August 29, 2010 Share Posted August 29, 2010 I think Green is the #2 at this point at QB, but Martinez will see the field more. If Lee goes down, Green is the man. Basically T-Mart is our offensive "peso" type player. He will be a hybrid QB, RB and WR, and will see the ball 5-10 times a game. IMHO, there is a little too much smoke for martinez to simply be the gimmick guy. why is it so hard for some to believe that he just may simply be better than green, or even lee. Lee's entering his 4th year in the offense, Green has 2 springs and a full season at QB. Martinez has had basically 15 spring practices and 1/3 of reps through fall camp, people talk about the good things he's done in camps but you don't hear the bad things much like throwing multiple pick six's in a row. I am pretty sure that Watson prefers Green over Martinez, but he realizes that he is a big weapon and needs to see the field. Link to comment
irieboy8 Posted August 29, 2010 Share Posted August 29, 2010 I think Green is the #2 at this point at QB, but Martinez will see the field more. If Lee goes down, Green is the man. Basically T-Mart is our offensive "peso" type player. He will be a hybrid QB, RB and WR, and will see the ball 5-10 times a game. IMHO, there is a little too much smoke for martinez to simply be the gimmick guy. why is it so hard for some to believe that he just may simply be better than green, or even lee. Lee's entering his 4th year in the offense, Green has 2 springs and a full season at QB. Martinez has had basically 15 spring practices and 1/3 of reps through fall camp, people talk about the good things he's done in camps but you don't hear the bad things much like throwing multiple pick six's in a row. I am pretty sure that Watson prefers Green over Martinez, but he realizes that he is a big weapon and needs to see the field. he seems like a guy who loved the huskers... not as much as JT perhaps but still a lot.... i think the guy is smart enough to know and has the charecter to know that if you transfer (like people have said) its not likes he's gonna come right in and be given a spot based on the fact he hasn't done anyything (no chance yet) to earn a spot... unless its at some crappy lower tier school.. i think he sticks it out.... Link to comment
NUance Posted August 29, 2010 Share Posted August 29, 2010 I think Green is the #2 at this point at QB, but Martinez will see the field more. If Lee goes down, Green is the man. Basically T-Mart is our offensive "peso" type player. He will be a hybrid QB, RB and WR, and will see the ball 5-10 times a game. IMHO, there is a little too much smoke for martinez to simply be the gimmick guy. why is it so hard for some to believe that he just may simply be better than green, or even lee. Lee's entering his 4th year in the offense, Green has 2 springs and a full season at QB. Martinez has had basically 15 spring practices and 1/3 of reps through fall camp, people talk about the good things he's done in camps but you don't hear the bad things much like throwing multiple pick six's in a row. I am pretty sure that Watson prefers Green over Martinez, but he realizes that he is a big weapon and needs to see the field. he seems like a guy who loved the huskers... not as much as JT perhaps but still a lot.... i think the guy is smart enough to know and has the charecter to know that if you transfer (like people have said) its not likes he's gonna come right in and be given a spot based on the fact he hasn't done anyything (no chance yet) to earn a spot... unless its at some crappy lower tier school.. i think he sticks it out.... I agree. Cody Green *started* as a true freshman for us. How many QBs have done that in the history of NU football? The guy had a pretty remarkable start to his NU career. He’s got three years left. No way he transfers. Link to comment
GMoose Posted August 29, 2010 Share Posted August 29, 2010 So when Martinez gets a shot and throws 2 picks are we gonna have (another) thread about him transferring? I was simply asking a question. If Green ends up 3rd on the depth chart. Dont you think it runs through his mind? It would probably run through anyone's mind. And i think the reason the tone of this thread hasn't gone well is because you made it sound like cody green was officially 3rd on the depth chart. Warning: And also i am just wondering, why are we so quick to write of cody green and so quick to crown T-Mart as our savior? Cody Green might have struggled at times last year but at least the coaches thought he was the better option to start than T-Mart. What has T-Mart even done? He did good in a spring game, big whoop. I seem to recall Curenski Gilleylen (sp?) having a crazing good spring game to years ago and whats he really done. Not much. Not saying i favor either Green or T-Mart or even Zac Lee, (to be honest idc, i just want us to start the one that gives us the best ooption to win) but why so much of the of T-Mart? he hasn't even played a game. Not saying that T-Mart can't do special things for NU, cause i believe he has talent, but don't be so quick to write of cody Green bc he struggled as a 17 year old kid. Anyway Sorry M_h that came off kinda douchey. I wasn't calling you out, I'm just sayin this is the same old saong and dance we heard last year, Zac was doing poorly so everyone put CG on a pedestal and now that we're hearing that Martinez is making the first man miss at practice everyone is becoming awfully quick to drop not only Zac but Cody as well in favor of glorifying Martinez. But anyways, I would hope that if Cody gets passed up his focus would be on improving to beat out the #1, not bailing out to an FCS school or something to be coddled. That ain't a Bo Pelini kinda guy. Link to comment
Saunders Posted August 29, 2010 Share Posted August 29, 2010 If you get beat out by a kid who wasn't even recruited to play quarterback, than that is all on you. First, I agree that this rumor is bullcrap. Second, Martinez was certianly recruited as a QB first. The coaches knew he could play another position if it didn't work out at QB. Go back and read his recruiting articles. Specifically, the kid was recruited as an athlete. Even more specifically, he was recruited by the coaches with the idea of playing on defense. But, he said all along that if a chance at quarterback arose than he would want a fair shot. Uh, I follow recruiting quite a bit, especially since Bo took over. The problem is, Rivals is wrong, because they didn't report the whole story. The "athlete" part is what he was designated by the recruiting service. Green started out as an athlete as well. It was quite known that he was coming in as a QB first on Scout. So, yes, he had the option to play D if it didn't work out, but he certainly was being brought in as a QB first. Link to comment
bleedNUred Posted August 29, 2010 Share Posted August 29, 2010 I think he'd be crazy to when he has a real shot to assert himself in the QB competition next year. The thing about transfers...you go to a different school, sit out a year, and they have their Qb situation sorted out already. At best you're competing for a starting job. And even if you were a starter and successful at your old school, it's hardly a guarantee at the new one (see Mustain, Mitch and Harrison Beck). Sure there's your Ryan Mallet (different situation) and Jevon Snead and Sam Keller (also different situation), but I can't think of any place where Cody has a better shot at becoming the future QB than here, really. Unless he wants to take a step down in level of competition. Agreed. Hope he doesn't leave but then again we are loaded at the position for the future. Link to comment
Minnesota_husker Posted August 29, 2010 Author Share Posted August 29, 2010 So when Martinez gets a shot and throws 2 picks are we gonna have (another) thread about him transferring? I was simply asking a question. If Green ends up 3rd on the depth chart. Dont you think it runs through his mind? It would probably run through anyone's mind. And i think the reason the tone of this thread hasn't gone well is because you made it sound like cody green was officially 3rd on the depth chart. Warning: And also i am just wondering, why are we so quick to write of cody green and so quick to crown T-Mart as our savior? Cody Green might have struggled at times last year but at least the coaches thought he was the better option to start than T-Mart. What has T-Mart even done? He did good in a spring game, big whoop. I seem to recall Curenski Gilleylen (sp?) having a crazing good spring game to years ago and whats he really done. Not much. Not saying i favor either Green or T-Mart or even Zac Lee, (to be honest idc, i just want us to start the one that gives us the best ooption to win) but why so much of the of T-Mart? he hasn't even played a game. Not saying that T-Mart can't do special things for NU, cause i believe he has talent, but don't be so quick to write of cody Green bc he struggled as a 17 year old kid. Anyway Sorry M_h that came off kinda douchey. I wasn't calling you out, I'm just sayin this is the same old saong and dance we heard last year, Zac was doing poorly so everyone put CG on a pedestal and now that we're hearing that Martinez is making the first man miss at practice everyone is becoming awfully quick to drop not only Zac but Cody as well in favor of glorifying Martinez. But anyways, I would hope that if Cody gets passed up his focus would be on improving to beat out the #1, not bailing out to an FCS school or something to be coddled. That ain't a Bo Pelini kinda guy. O, your fine. I just heard a buddy say he heard Cody was thinking of transferring. This is by no means a source, nor do i have any reason to believe that its true, but it got me thinking. If CG ends up at 3rd on the depth chart(which i know is a big if) than he might be thinking aobut it. Link to comment
Huskers Fan Too Posted August 29, 2010 Share Posted August 29, 2010 I agree that he doesn't transfer or leave the team. I also agree that I see him changing positions. I have always wondered what he would look like at TE. Does anyone know how his hands are? With his build, I honestly think he could be a nice threat at TE (again, assuming he has the catching abilities). Link to comment
EZ-E Posted August 29, 2010 Share Posted August 29, 2010 If you get beat out by a kid who wasn't even recruited to play quarterback, than that is all on you. First, I agree that this rumor is bullcrap. Second, Martinez was certianly recruited as a QB first. The coaches knew he could play another position if it didn't work out at QB. Go back and read his recruiting articles. Specifically, the kid was recruited as an athlete. Even more specifically, he was recruited by the coaches with the idea of playing on defense. But, he said all along that if a chance at quarterback arose than he would want a fair shot. Uh, I follow recruiting quite a bit, especially since Bo took over. The problem is, Rivals is wrong, because they didn't report the whole story. The "athlete" part is what he was designated by the recruiting service. Green started out as an athlete as well. It was quite known that he was coming in as a QB first on Scout. So, yes, he had the option to play D if it didn't work out, but he certainly was being brought in as a QB first. He was brought in as an "athlete with the chance at QB." We gave him his chance like every school that does this does, and he surprized. We really didn't intend on keeping him at QB his whole career as he was working at WR in the bowl preperations. He is one of those kids that obviously does not take no for an answer. He was a definate third on our depth chart until he "missed" that practice. Ever since then he has been very impressive and has played very inspired football. Link to comment
Saunders Posted August 29, 2010 Share Posted August 29, 2010 If you get beat out by a kid who wasn't even recruited to play quarterback, than that is all on you. First, I agree that this rumor is bullcrap. Second, Martinez was certianly recruited as a QB first. The coaches knew he could play another position if it didn't work out at QB. Go back and read his recruiting articles. Specifically, the kid was recruited as an athlete. Even more specifically, he was recruited by the coaches with the idea of playing on defense. But, he said all along that if a chance at quarterback arose than he would want a fair shot. Uh, I follow recruiting quite a bit, especially since Bo took over. The problem is, Rivals is wrong, because they didn't report the whole story. The "athlete" part is what he was designated by the recruiting service. Green started out as an athlete as well. It was quite known that he was coming in as a QB first on Scout. So, yes, he had the option to play D if it didn't work out, but he certainly was being brought in as a QB first. He was brought in as an "athlete with the chance at QB." We gave him his chance like every school that does this does, and he surprized. We really didn't intend on keeping him at QB his whole career as he was working at WR in the bowl preperations. He is one of those kids that obviously does not take no for an answer. He was a definate third on our depth chart until he "missed" that practice. Ever since then he has been very impressive and has played very inspired football. Sorry, but that's not entirely true. Martinez worked as the Scout Team QB just like Lee, Ganz, and Keller. Again, he was brought in as a QB first, with the option to move if it didn't work out. I don't care who starts, but misinformation drives me crazy. Link to comment
redout22 Posted August 30, 2010 Share Posted August 30, 2010 If you get beat out by a kid who wasn't even recruited to play quarterback, than that is all on you. First, I agree that this rumor is bullcrap. Second, Martinez was certianly recruited as a QB first. The coaches knew he could play another position if it didn't work out at QB. Go back and read his recruiting articles. Specifically, the kid was recruited as an athlete. Even more specifically, he was recruited by the coaches with the idea of playing on defense. But, he said all along that if a chance at quarterback arose than he would want a fair shot. Uh, I follow recruiting quite a bit, especially since Bo took over. The problem is, Rivals is wrong, because they didn't report the whole story. The "athlete" part is what he was designated by the recruiting service. Green started out as an athlete as well. It was quite known that he was coming in as a QB first on Scout. So, yes, he had the option to play D if it didn't work out, but he certainly was being brought in as a QB first. He was brought in as an "athlete with the chance at QB." We gave him his chance like every school that does this does, and he surprized. We really didn't intend on keeping him at QB his whole career as he was working at WR in the bowl preperations. He is one of those kids that obviously does not take no for an answer. He was a definate third on our depth chart until he "missed" that practice. Ever since then he has been very impressive and has played very inspired football. Sorry, but that's not entirely true. Martinez worked as the Scout Team QB just like Lee, Ganz, and Keller. Again, he was brought in as a QB first, with the option to move if it didn't work out. I don't care who starts, but misinformation drives me crazy. Yeah he was the scout team QB because he was most similar to quarterback we were facing. Besides that was later in the season after he got his shot competing. Also I trust Rivals waaay more than I do scout. Link to comment
EZ-E Posted August 30, 2010 Share Posted August 30, 2010 If you get beat out by a kid who wasn't even recruited to play quarterback, than that is all on you. First, I agree that this rumor is bullcrap. Second, Martinez was certianly recruited as a QB first. The coaches knew he could play another position if it didn't work out at QB. Go back and read his recruiting articles. Specifically, the kid was recruited as an athlete. Even more specifically, he was recruited by the coaches with the idea of playing on defense. But, he said all along that if a chance at quarterback arose than he would want a fair shot. Uh, I follow recruiting quite a bit, especially since Bo took over. The problem is, Rivals is wrong, because they didn't report the whole story. The "athlete" part is what he was designated by the recruiting service. Green started out as an athlete as well. It was quite known that he was coming in as a QB first on Scout. So, yes, he had the option to play D if it didn't work out, but he certainly was being brought in as a QB first. He was brought in as an "athlete with the chance at QB." We gave him his chance like every school that does this does, and he surprized. We really didn't intend on keeping him at QB his whole career as he was working at WR in the bowl preperations. He is one of those kids that obviously does not take no for an answer. He was a definate third on our depth chart until he "missed" that practice. Ever since then he has been very impressive and has played very inspired football. Sorry, but that's not entirely true. Martinez worked as the Scout Team QB just like Lee, Ganz, and Keller. Again, he was brought in as a QB first, with the option to move if it didn't work out. I don't care who starts, but misinformation drives me crazy. You dishing out the misinformation drives me crazy. He was brought in as an athlete with a chance at QB, go back and read this thread. Cody Green was PROMISED that he would be the only QB brought in during the 2009 cycle. Link to comment
Saunders Posted August 30, 2010 Share Posted August 30, 2010 If you get beat out by a kid who wasn't even recruited to play quarterback, than that is all on you. First, I agree that this rumor is bullcrap. Second, Martinez was certianly recruited as a QB first. The coaches knew he could play another position if it didn't work out at QB. Go back and read his recruiting articles. Specifically, the kid was recruited as an athlete. Even more specifically, he was recruited by the coaches with the idea of playing on defense. But, he said all along that if a chance at quarterback arose than he would want a fair shot. Uh, I follow recruiting quite a bit, especially since Bo took over. The problem is, Rivals is wrong, because they didn't report the whole story. The "athlete" part is what he was designated by the recruiting service. Green started out as an athlete as well. It was quite known that he was coming in as a QB first on Scout. So, yes, he had the option to play D if it didn't work out, but he certainly was being brought in as a QB first. He was brought in as an "athlete with the chance at QB." We gave him his chance like every school that does this does, and he surprized. We really didn't intend on keeping him at QB his whole career as he was working at WR in the bowl preperations. He is one of those kids that obviously does not take no for an answer. He was a definate third on our depth chart until he "missed" that practice. Ever since then he has been very impressive and has played very inspired football. Sorry, but that's not entirely true. Martinez worked as the Scout Team QB just like Lee, Ganz, and Keller. Again, he was brought in as a QB first, with the option to move if it didn't work out. I don't care who starts, but misinformation drives me crazy. You dishing out the misinformation drives me crazy. He was brought in as an athlete with a chance at QB, go back and read this thread. Cody Green was PROMISED that he would be the only QB brought in during the 2009 cycle. I did, and all I saw were posts from RIVALS. It helps to gather info from multiple sources before asserting something as fact. Believe it or not, they aren't the only site out there... Link to comment
HuskerNMO Posted August 30, 2010 Share Posted August 30, 2010 If you get beat out by a kid who wasn't even recruited to play quarterback, than that is all on you. First, I agree that this rumor is bullcrap. Second, Martinez was certianly recruited as a QB first. The coaches knew he could play another position if it didn't work out at QB. Go back and read his recruiting articles. Specifically, the kid was recruited as an athlete. Even more specifically, he was recruited by the coaches with the idea of playing on defense. But, he said all along that if a chance at quarterback arose than he would want a fair shot. Uh, I follow recruiting quite a bit, especially since Bo took over. The problem is, Rivals is wrong, because they didn't report the whole story. The "athlete" part is what he was designated by the recruiting service. Green started out as an athlete as well. It was quite known that he was coming in as a QB first on Scout. So, yes, he had the option to play D if it didn't work out, but he certainly was being brought in as a QB first. He was brought in as an "athlete with the chance at QB." We gave him his chance like every school that does this does, and he surprized. We really didn't intend on keeping him at QB his whole career as he was working at WR in the bowl preperations. He is one of those kids that obviously does not take no for an answer. He was a definate third on our depth chart until he "missed" that practice. Ever since then he has been very impressive and has played very inspired football. Sorry, but that's not entirely true. Martinez worked as the Scout Team QB just like Lee, Ganz, and Keller. Again, he was brought in as a QB first, with the option to move if it didn't work out. I don't care who starts, but misinformation drives me crazy. Then I guess you are driving yourself crazy. You are extremely wrong on Martinez. Here's the OFFICIAL Nebraska release on recruits from 2009 that lists Martinez as an ATHLETE, and Green as a QB. http://www.huskers.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=100&ATCLID=3660376 Martinez played QB a bit on the scout team, but Ron Kellogg played it the vast majority of the time. Martinez operated at WR the vast majority of the time last year. In fact Kellogg was even named scout team MVP for his efforts last year. http://www.huskers.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=100&ATCLID=3662486 Martinez notes about last year 2009 (Redshirt) Martinez redshirted in his first season in the program and worked on the scout team. And Kellogg's 2009 (Redshirt) Kellogg quarterbacked the scout team, and earned Scout Team MVP honors. And last but not least here's the writeup on Martinez from when he signed saying he could play on either side of the ball. Taylor Martinez ATH, 6-1, 185, Corona, Calif. (Centennial HS) Taylor Martinez is a talented all-around athlete who has the ability to play on either side of the ball at Nebraska. One of six Californians in Nebraska's 2009 recruiting class, Martinez compiled huge numbers as a quarterback during his senior season. The 6-0, 175-pounder also has shown outstanding ability on defense and could be a factor in the Nebraska secondary in the future. Martinez was a dual threat quarterback for Coach Matt Logan at Corona's Centennial High School during his senior season. Martinez passed for better than 3,000 yards and threw 28 touchdowns, while completing about 61 percent of his attempts. On the ground, Martinez added 750 rushing yards and 12 touchdowns. His play helped Centennial to a perfect 15-0 season and a state championship, culminated by a victory over prep powerhouse De La Salle High, when Martinez threw for 243 yards. Centennial High finished No. 2 nationally in the USA Today's final high school rankings. Martinez was named the Big VIII League's Most Valuable Player and also earned the Los Angeles Times' Glen Davis Player-of-the-Year Award. The award is named in honor of the 1946 Heisman winner from Army. A first-team all-state selection, Martinez was also the Inland Division Offensive Player of the Year. Martinez spent only one season at Centennial High School. As a junior, he played quarterback at San Bernadino Cajon High and accounted for about 1,500 yards of total offense. Martinez spent his freshman and sophomore seasons at Norco High, where he earned the majority of his playing time in the secondary. Martinez is ranked among the top "athlete" prospects in the nation by Rivals.com, while Scout.com lists him among the top 50 quarterbacks in the nation. He is listed among the top 50 players in California by both Rivals.com and SuperPrep. Martinez committed to Nebraska last August and only visited the Huskers. He is the son of Casey Martinez and Eti Fania and was born on Sept. 15, 1990. Link to comment
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