GMoose Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 This thread is ignorant. Anybody who know anything about college football knows it takes longer then 3years for a coach to build a NC football team. It took osbourne over a decade. I do think there needs to be some changes to the offensive staff. 100% correct........nuf said. Oklahoma, Florida, and Alabama say your 100% correct is 100% incorrect. It does happen. Coaches have been able to build NC football teams in three years or less. Many, many different factors in those situations. The most obvious being, none of those coaches (Saban, Stoops, Meyer) were first-time coaches. Not to mention some slight recruiting advantages... Quote Link to comment
knapplc Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 This thread is ignorant. Anybody who know anything about college football knows it takes longer then 3years for a coach to build a NC football team. It took osbourne over a decade. I do think there needs to be some changes to the offensive staff. 100% correct........nuf said. Oklahoma, Florida, and Alabama say your 100% correct is 100% incorrect. It does happen. Coaches have been able to build NC football teams in three years or less. Many, many different factors in those situations. The most obvious being, none of those coaches (Saban, Stoops, Meyer) were first-time coaches. Not to mention some slight recruiting advantages... And better hair. Quote Link to comment
The Dude Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 No. If we're still talking about firing Watson this time next year, we really have to question Bo as a head coach. Quote Link to comment
Bo-Nose Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 I'm not going anywhere. Quote Link to comment
huskerfan511 Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 I didnt read through every single post above mine, but IMO Bo needs to be accountable for the entire team as he is the head coach. The responsibility of being the hc means that you need to oversee the entire operation of the team. For those people who said that if Bo puts more focus on the offense the defense will suffer, I have a question for you and that is if you want Bo to give 90-100% of his attention to the defense then he should have been hired as the d-cord and not the hc. He is the hc he needs to figure out the offense as well. Take the play calling ability away from SW and as the hc call some of the offensive plays. Bo needs to get rid of SW and Gilmore and Cotton and start fresh on the offensive side of the ball. If he does not do that and we lose 4 games again next year and the offense struggles then we can really have the conversation of Bo hitting the road. Quote Link to comment
miamihrrcns2001 Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 So maybe Pelini didn't tell Wats to run those plays, BUT he's the head football coach, so why didn't he tell Wats to STOP running those same plays! 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junior4949 Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 This thread is ignorant. Anybody who know anything about college football knows it takes longer then 3years for a coach to build a NC football team. It took osbourne over a decade. I do think there needs to be some changes to the offensive staff. 100% correct........nuf said. Oklahoma, Florida, and Alabama say your 100% correct is 100% incorrect. It does happen. Coaches have been able to build NC football teams in three years or less. Many, many different factors in those situations. The most obvious being, none of those coaches (Saban, Stoops, Meyer) were first-time coaches. What college was Bob Stoops the head coach of before Oklahoma? Quote Link to comment
kchusker_chris Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 This thread is ignorant. Anybody who know anything about college football knows it takes longer then 3years for a coach to build a NC football team. It took osbourne over a decade. I do think there needs to be some changes to the offensive staff. 100% correct........nuf said. Oklahoma, Florida, and Alabama say your 100% correct is 100% incorrect. It does happen. Coaches have been able to build NC football teams in three years or less. Many, many different factors in those situations. The most obvious being, none of those coaches (Saban, Stoops, Meyer) were first-time coaches. What college was Bob Stoops the head coach of before Oklahoma? Didn't Les Miles win one in year 3? Pete Carrol shared one in 2003 which was year 3 or 4 for him. Either Gene Chizick or Chip Kelley gets one in year 2. Larry Coker got one his first year. Jim Tressle in year 2. In fact only a couple National Championships have been won in the last 10 years by coaches that weren't in their early years w/ the program. Mack Brown got one. About it. I'd have to say that while you aren't 100% incorrect...you are hovering right around 90% incorrect. Quote Link to comment
BornRedCornFed Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 Hard to take a post like this seriously. This is the sort of silly impatience that got NU in trouble under a previous regime who shant be named. Not hard to take serious at all. For some reason, 95% of the Husker fans think Pelini is God because he is a Defensive mastermind. If everyone closely evaluated all the details that go into a Head coach they just may realign there opinions. Reading 'all' of this thread is a great start. God, no. A great coach, absolutely. Im pretty sure 99.9% of husker nation can recognize that, with you being the only exception i have yet found Quote Link to comment
junior4949 Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 There was different circumstances. For instance, Oklahoma hadn't been to a bowl or had a winning record the previous four years before Stoops. Nebraska won the Big 12 North just two years before Bo. Nebraska wasn't under probation or had NCAA sanctions either like Alabama did. Quote Link to comment
junior4949 Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 This thread is ignorant. Anybody who know anything about college football knows it takes longer then 3years for a coach to build a NC football team. It took osbourne over a decade. I do think there needs to be some changes to the offensive staff. 100% correct........nuf said. Oklahoma, Florida, and Alabama say your 100% correct is 100% incorrect. It does happen. Coaches have been able to build NC football teams in three years or less. Many, many different factors in those situations. The most obvious being, none of those coaches (Saban, Stoops, Meyer) were first-time coaches. What college was Bob Stoops the head coach of before Oklahoma? Didn't Les Miles win one in year 3? Pete Carrol shared one in 2003 which was year 3 or 4 for him. Either Gene Chizick or Chip Kelley gets one in year 2. Larry Coker got one his first year. Jim Tressle in year 2. In fact only a couple National Championships have been won in the last 10 years by coaches that weren't in their early years w/ the program. Mack Brown got one. About it. I'd have to say that while you aren't 100% incorrect...you are hovering right around 90% incorrect. This is what I was getting at. While it did take TO and Bobby Bowden a long time to get their first one, there have obviously been several that achieved it in a very short amount of time. I chose the ones I did because those teams were pretty bad before the new coach got there, yet the new coach won a NC in three years or less. Quote Link to comment
kchusker_chris Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 Hard to take a post like this seriously. This is the sort of silly impatience that got NU in trouble under a previous regime who shant be named. Not hard to take serious at all. For some reason, 95% of the Husker fans think Pelini is God because he is a Defensive mastermind. If everyone closely evaluated all the details that go into a Head coach they just may realign there opinions. Reading 'all' of this thread is a great start. God, no. A great coach, absolutely. Im pretty sure 99.9% of husker nation can recognize that, with you being the only exception i have yet found I'm still on the fence, so you can count me as another exception. I certainly don't think he needs to go however. But, while I agree he is a great coach, I'm not yet sold on his ability as a CEO - which is what he needs to be right now. Tom is behind the scenes and I'm sure that helps Pelini a lot. Then again it might hurt him some as well. (the Watson decision). I guess I see Pelini as being a spectacular coach who hasn't really made a single "great" head coach decision. He's pathetic with the press, seems to lack some decisiveness when it comes to personel decisions, isn't extremely consistent with dicipline, etc. 90% of the head coach's job description takes place without any Xs and Os. These areas are things pelini needs to improve on - he's admitted it himself many times. We have gotten an admition 3 years in a row (virginia tech 2008, texas 2009, a&m 2010) that he needs to keep his sideline demeanor in check. I am guessing 2011's apology will come after the Ohio State, 7 games into the season. Anyone wanna over/under that? Quote Link to comment
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